Zone1 Agnostics: Are you seekers of or indifferent to God?

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Do you care if God exists? Have you actively sought God, and if so, in what ways did/do you seek? If you do not care whether or not God exists, what led to that lack of caring?
 
Do you care if God exists? Have you actively sought God, and if so, in what ways did/do you seek? If you do not care whether or not God exists, what led to that lack of caring?
Of course we want God to exist. But not the God that says believe in me and this King James Bible or burn in eternal hell.

Care? We want it to be true. We WISH it were true. Just not so bad that we can suspend belief. We can't believe like you because you want to believe. That must be happening with you for you to believe any man made religion.

Yes, sought God all my life. Still looking.

What led to not caring? Not believing. And we appreciate now more because we know this is it for us.

“It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.” – Carl Sagan
 
I believe in a creator, not organized religion....Far too many "coincidences" in the universe for this to be a big cosmic happenstance.

I care, therefore I seek answers.

“I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” – Carl Sagan
 
How do we define God?

Do we define God like in the Christian Bible: Omnipresent, Omniscient, Omnipotent and Timeless.
 
“I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking.
Obviously more than wishful thinking. Whether individually or as a group, mankind asserts gods (answers to intractable questions) to appear superior themselves, rationalizing subjugation of others through fear of loss. Artful lying. Insurance sales. Prime examples, "Apples and Oranges", "Religion and Ethics". Embrace the struggle. It's mighty short.
 

Agnostics: Are you seekers of or indifferent to God?​

Indifferent.
Do you care if God exists?
No. Why should I?
Have you actively sought God.
What is God?
If you do not care whether or not God exists, what led to that lack of caring?
Lack of any evidence what-so-ever. What good would it do to worry if after death huge monsters feast on living human flesh?
 
I believe in a creator, not organized religion....

Of course we want God to exist. But not the God that says believe in me and this King James Bible or burn in eternal hell.
Where does the Bible say you will burn in hell? (Specific verse)

Specifically (one point) why you do not believe in "organized religion"? What is else that is organized that you don't believe in? For example, do you not believe in organized government, organized schooling, organized medicine?
 
Where does the Bible say you will burn in hell? (Specific verse)

Specifically (one point) why you do not believe in "organized religion"? What is else that is organized that you don't believe in? For example, do you not believe in organized government, organized schooling, organized medicine?
Organized government isn't based on something I think it made up. Well, government is the creation of people so I suppose it too was "invented" or "made up".

The bible doesn't say non christians go to hell? Tell your fellow Christians. They say it says it.
 
there are many considerations than monotheism ... or even reading the desert bibles, knowing beforehand their histories of persecution and victimization of the innocent.

- as pertaining to deities.
 
Specifically (one point) why you do not believe in "organized religion"?
Because those religious "organizers" have been perpetrators of some of the worst atrocities against humankind.

Nobody needs the Vatican, Mecca, Jerusalem, or any other giant organizational center, and attendant centralization of power, to believe that there is a creator.
For example, do you not believe in organized government, organized schooling, organized medicine?
No, I do not.....Not "organized" at the point of a gun, anyway.
 
Because it's been proven to be false.
We are all agnostic or atheist when it comes to religions. Meriweather just believes in one that you don't

As far as Jehova Witnesses go, Born Agains, Muslims, Jews, Baptists, Protestants, Lutherans, non denomination, Mormons, etc. we all agree. But ask Meriweather about Catholics, that ones real she says.
 
We are all agnostic or atheist when it comes to religions.
Maybe you're right.
Meriweather just believes in one that you don't
Or something ....
As far as Jehova Witnesses go, Born Agains, Muslims, Jews, Baptists, Protestants, Lutherans, non denomination, Mormons, etc. we all agree.
I'll take your word for it.
But ask Meriweather about Catholics, that ones real she says.
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Care? We want it to be true. We WISH it were true. Just not so bad that we can suspend belief. We can't believe like you because you want to believe. That must be happening with you for you to believe any man made religion.
You assume I want you to believe. Not my call--it's your call. All I can do is encourage those who seek by testifying there is, indeed, something to find. The term "man-made religion" is a serious cop-out and as relevant as saying "man-made atheism" or "man-made agnosticism".
 
The bible doesn't say non christians go to hell? Tell your fellow Christians. They say it says it.
I have told them. I went over the etymology of the word 'condemned' and the fact that the apostles were teaching those who followed them. The Apostles didn't go off and tell those not interested in the Gospel that they were going to hell. They were too busy proclaiming the good news that sins are forgiven.
 
Because those religious "organizers" have been perpetrators of some of the worst atrocities against humankind.

Nobody needs the Vatican, Mecca, Jerusalem, or any other giant organizational center, and attendant centralization of power, to believe that there is a creator.
Every single one have been perpetrators? Not one has been sincere?

Are you also of the mind no student needs a teacher?
 
We are all agnostic or atheist when it comes to religions. Meriweather just believes in one that you don't

As far as Jehova Witnesses go, Born Agains, Muslims, Jews, Baptists, Protestants, Lutherans, non denomination, Mormons, etc. we all agree. But ask Meriweather about Catholics, that ones real she says.
You want to quote where I have ever said that? I won't hold my breath waiting for you to find any such quote. My own belief is that all religions hold some aspect of truth, and reaches the people the Holy Spirit intends for them to reach.
 
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