After watching explain how you can support abortion

[MaryL]

I am not going to watch that, sorry. I have seen adults die, and I didn't hear any angels singing or feel profound. So I don't need a video. Abortion is like war or the death penalty, an ugly necessity. We shouldn't have to resort to any of them either, but here we are anyway. Life lesson 101.

necessity? as in a form of birth control? I've seen adults die also but watch a abort child die is one of those deaths that is not a necessity

I am sad that abortions happen. But some of you might say it's GOD'S will, if you are cynical, it's just culling the herd. There are 7 billion people on this planet after all, not to negate gods will. But things are getting rather out of hand.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Fact: Abortion ends the life of a human being. Those who spout 'reproductive rights' and other such nonsense care not a wit for the unborn human being whose life is snuffed out. There are options, always.

Online For Life - Pro Life Non Profit Saving Babies Families From Abortion

Which means one shouldn't have an abortion if this is his belief.

It doesn't mean one is at liberty to seek to codify this subjective belief.

Again, the issue has nothing to do with the merits of abortion, but the unwillingness of this society to find a way to end the practice that comports with the Constitution and its case law.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I am not going to watch that, sorry. I have seen adults die, and I didn't hear any angels singing or feel profound. So I don't need a video. Abortion is like war or the death penalty, an ugly necessity. We shouldn't have to resort to any of them either, but here we are anyway. Life lesson 101.

necessity? as in a form of birth control? I've seen adults die also but watch a abort child die is one of those deaths that is not a necessity

I am sad that abortions happen. But some of you might say it's GOD'S will, if you are cynical, it's just culling the herd. There are 7 billion people on this planet after all, not to negate gods will. But things are getting rather out of hand.

Watch the video if your brave enough and then say honestly that you still support that type of murder.

 

[Vigilante]

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

 

[Roadrunner]

I'm still waiting for one of you mutants to tell me how you are going to ban abortion and make it stick.

So you support the murder of innocent?

You failed to answer the question.

How is 'banning' abortion going to end the practice, without violating citizens' civil rights.

There is no right to abortion.

Roe v Wade was based on a lie.

But from a pragmatic point of view, abortion is the only thing keeping Democrats at bay.

And unwanted, feral children are, in reality, much more expensive than either BC or abortion.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Fact: Abortion ends the life of a human being. Those who spout 'reproductive rights' and other such nonsense care not a wit for the unborn human being whose life is snuffed out. There are options, always.

Yes there are options.

Abortion is one of them.

You mean murder? Did you watch the video? What was that on the table?

It was a fetus.

A human.

The children in the photo below have civil rights, a fetus doesn't. A fetus is not legally a person, the children in the photo below are.

 

[Roadrunner]

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

The hypocrisy of law is just absurd.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Fact: Abortion ends the life of a human being. Those who spout 'reproductive rights' and other such nonsense care not a wit for the unborn human being whose life is snuffed out. There are options, always.

Online For Life - Pro Life Non Profit Saving Babies Families From Abortion

Which means one shouldn't have an abortion if this is his belief.

It doesn't mean one is at liberty to seek to codify this subjective belief.

Again, the issue has nothing to do with the merits of abortion, but the unwillingness of this society to find a way to end the practice that comports with the Constitution and its case law.

Actually, were at liberty to try codify any belief. No matter how much that fact pisses you off.

I for one though would LOVE to see you explain how it murder if I kill a woman's 1 month old fetus, but "a choice" if she does.

 

[Vigilante]

Fact: Abortion ends the life of a human being. Those who spout 'reproductive rights' and other such nonsense care not a wit for the unborn human being whose life is snuffed out. There are options, always.

Yes there are options.

Abortion is one of them.

You mean murder? Did you watch the video? What was that on the table?

It was a fetus.

A human.

The children in the photo below have civil rights, a fetus doesn't. A fetus is not legally a person, the children in the photo below are.

To REPEAT...This LAW says you are so fucking wrong!

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm still waiting for one of you mutants to tell me how you are going to ban abortion and make it stick.

So you support the murder of innocent?

You failed to answer the question.

How is 'banning' abortion going to end the practice, without violating citizens' civil rights.

What happens shyster when one VIOLATES another persons civil rights?

He's potentially subject to a civil rights violation claim, which as nothing to do with this topic.

It's otherwise telling that conservatives hostile to privacy rights use insults and threats as a form of 'debate,' very persuasive

 

[MaryL]

I was a pre med student once (flunked out) , saw a few surgeries, and it was quite bloody, flesh and guts and ...that is what medical science is about, they take out a tumor or resect a bowl and it s pretty disgusting to see as a layman. Nothing pretty about any kind of surgery. Post a picture of a Cancerous lesion, and nobody's going to ever want to get treated for cancer. Not pretty either. But is abortion NECESSARY? Ask yourself that one.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Yes there are options.

Abortion is one of them.

You mean murder? Did you watch the video? What was that on the table?

It was a fetus.

A human.

The children in the photo below have civil rights, a fetus doesn't. A fetus is not legally a person, the children in the photo below are.

To REPEAT...This LAW says you are so fucking wrong!

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

That law is clearly unconstitutional. SCOTUS has already ruled that a fetus isn't a human until it's viable.

 

[Vigilante]

I'm still waiting for one of you mutants to tell me how you are going to ban abortion and make it stick.

So you support the murder of innocent?

You failed to answer the question.

How is 'banning' abortion going to end the practice, without violating citizens' civil rights.

What happens shyster when one VIOLATES another persons civil rights?

He's potentially subject to a civil rights violation claim, which as nothing to do with this topic.

It's otherwise telling that conservatives hostile to privacy rights use insults and threats as a form of 'debate,' very persuasive

You Shyster, are full of shit! ...."recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

I was a pre med student once (flunked out) , saw a few surgeries, and it was quite bloody, flesh and guts and ...that is what medical science is about, they take out a tumor or resect a bowl and it s pretty disgusting to see as a layman. Nothing pretty about any kind of surgery. Post a picture of a Cancerous lesion, and nobody's going to ever want to get treated for cancer. Not pretty either. But is abortion NECESSARY? Ask yourself that one.

I , for one, encourage it. Those who are apt to get abortions are those we don't want reproducing anyway.

In fact, I'd go further, I wish we could perform post birth abortions.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm still waiting for one of you mutants to tell me how you are going to ban abortion and make it stick.

So you support the murder of innocent?

You failed to answer the question.

How is 'banning' abortion going to end the practice, without violating citizens' civil rights.

What happens shyster when one VIOLATES another persons civil rights?

He's potentially subject to a civil rights violation claim, which as nothing to do with this topic.

It's otherwise telling that conservatives hostile to privacy rights use insults and threats as a form of 'debate,' very persuasive

You Shyster, are full of shit! ...."recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence.

Incorrect.

You're confusing criminal law with civil law.

The law you cite concerns criminal law, where a crime is committed against the pregnant woman, not the embryo /fetus, as the pregnancy was ended without the consent of the woman.

The right to privacy prohibiting the state from compelling a woman to give birth against her will concerns civil law in the context of substantive due process, recognizing the protected liberty affording citizens the right to make personal, private decisions absent interference by the state.

You've made this mistake in the past in a similar failed argument.

 

[Roadrunner]

Anyone brave enough to stand up and say they support abortion?

If abortion had been free and easily available, I doubt Barack Obama would have been born.

 

[Carla_Danger]

I am not going to watch that, sorry. I have seen adults die, and I didn't hear any angels singing or feel profound. So I don't need a video. Abortion is like war or the death penalty, an ugly necessity. We shouldn't have to resort to any of them either, but here we are anyway. Life lesson 101.

necessity? as in a form of birth control? I've seen adults die also but watch a abort child die is one of those deaths that is not a necessity

I am sad that abortions happen. But some of you might say it's GOD'S will, if you are cynical, it's just culling the herd. There are 7 billion people on this planet after all, not to negate gods will. But things are getting rather out of hand.

Watch the video if your brave enough and then say honestly that you still support that type of murder.

I support you keeping your nose out of something that should be between a woman and her doctor.

 

[Vigilante]

So you support the murder of innocent?

You failed to answer the question.

How is 'banning' abortion going to end the practice, without violating citizens' civil rights.

What happens shyster when one VIOLATES another persons civil rights?

He's potentially subject to a civil rights violation claim, which as nothing to do with this topic.

It's otherwise telling that conservatives hostile to privacy rights use insults and threats as a form of 'debate,' very persuasive

You Shyster, are full of shit! ...."recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence.

Incorrect.

You're confusing criminal law with civil law.

The law you cite concerns criminal law, where a crime is committed against the pregnant woman, not the embryo /fetus, as the pregnancy was ended without the consent of the woman.

The right to privacy prohibiting the state from compelling a woman to give birth against her will concerns civil law in the context of substantive due process, recognizing the protected liberty affording citizens the right to make personal, private decisions absent interference by the state.

You've made this mistake in the past in a similar failed argument.

Yes, a woman's OK is all that is needed to commit LEGAL MURDER... Thank you Shyster for getting to the bottom of the situation.... a FUCKED UP WOMAN has been given the power to kill another by the FUCK UP'S in the SCOTUS! Another bad law, like Roberts calling ObamaCare a TAX when it was cleared argued by the REGIME that it wasn't and is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!...SCOTUS making LAW instead of ruling on law!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You mean murder? Did you watch the video? What was that on the table?

It was a fetus.

A human.

The children in the photo below have civil rights, a fetus doesn't. A fetus is not legally a person, the children in the photo below are.

To REPEAT...This LAW says you are so fucking wrong!

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".[1]

That law is clearly unconstitutional. SCOTUS has already ruled that a fetus isn't a human until it's viable.

True, the embryo/fetus is not legally a person prior to birth (Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992)).

However the law cited is Constitutional because it doesn't interfere with the woman's right to privacy to decide for herself whether to have a child or not.

 

[MaryL]

Abortion is a personal issue and up to the person involved. It may be a theological issue, but that's between God and the conscience of the person making that decision. God help them.