African-American Views on the Police Not What You Think

[Carl in Michigan]

Surprised me, I guess the media gives the rabble too much air time

“When asked, ‘How satisfied are you…'”? Remember, this is a poll of black respondents. “When asked, ‘How satisfied are you with the job your local police department does,’ 21% said ‘very satisfied,’ 51% said somewhat satisfied, 12% said somewhat dissatisfied, and only 5% said that they were ‘very’ dissatisfied. These results do not suggest a complete endorsement of contemporary policing, as many blacks report negative interactions.

Poll of African-American Views on Cops Debunks Myths

RUSH: "Yet nearly [75%] of surveyed African-Americans report themselves satisfied with their local police departments." What? Who would believe that?

www.rushlimbaugh.com

 

[JoeMoma]

%5 of blacks is a large number of people. They can make a lot of noise being the squeaky wheel.

 

[Andylusion]

Surprised me, I guess the media gives the rabble too much air time

“When asked, ‘How satisfied are you…'”? Remember, this is a poll of black respondents. “When asked, ‘How satisfied are you with the job your local police department does,’ 21% said ‘very satisfied,’ 51% said somewhat satisfied, 12% said somewhat dissatisfied, and only 5% said that they were ‘very’ dissatisfied. These results do not suggest a complete endorsement of contemporary policing, as many blacks report negative interactions.

Poll of African-American Views on Cops Debunks Myths

RUSH: "Yet nearly [75%] of surveyed African-Americans report themselves satisfied with their local police departments." What? Who would believe that?

www.rushlimbaugh.com

Yeah, this does not surprise me. Most people complain about how others are treated, more than themselves.

This is universal.

For example, when ask people "do big corporations treat their employees badly", you'll end up with many claiming they do.

But if you ask "how does your corporation treat you", they nearly all say their company treats them well.

It's always other companies that are treating other employees, badly.

Same with health care. Somewhere around 87% of people were perfectly happy with their own health insurance.

But you asked them about health care in general, and all those other insurance companies are evil and terrible, and letting people die randomly.

And this is what you see here with police. People are perfectly happy with their police departments, and they don't have any problem with how they themselves have been treated.

But OTHER police departments are racists and evil, and other people are being abused by brutal police.

 

[Sunni Man]

I see the same phenomenon whenever the VA medical care is being discussed.
The news media acts like the VA is a total disaster, and needs dismantled and restructured from top to bottom. So a lot of the public has a negative view of the VA because of the media
Yet, my experience with the VA has been very positive, and most of the veterans I know feel the same way. ...

 

[MarathonMike]

Unless your a millionaire like Kapearnik or Al Sharpton who is unaffected by daily violence in Democrat cities.

 

[Andylusion]

I see the same phenomenon whenever the VA medical care is being discussed.
The news media acts like the VA is a total disaster, and needs dismantled and restructured from top to bottom. So a lot of the public has a negative view of the VA because of the media
Yet, my experience with the VA has been very positive, and most of the veterans I know feel the same way. ...

It depends greatly on where you are, and the cost of living.

Some places have good VA care. Some do.

Just like some Medicaid homes are actually pretty nice.

The problem isn't that this Medicaid home in California is underfunded, and that Medicaid home in Kansas is over funded.

There are two conflicting reasons why this happens.

First $100,000 dollars in Kansas goes way way farther, than $200,000 does in California.
Second, Kansas has far fewer people using the system, than the number of people using it in California.

So you have a combination of money in Kansas goes farther than in California, at the same time that far more people are using it in California, than in Kansas.

I can say with certainty, that the vast majority of people who use the VA system, hate the VA system.

My relatives are all ex-military. My in laws are ex military. I have met many other ex-military. Not one... not even one.. has had a good report of the VA system. The VA system is very bad for most Americans.

My in law, needed some surgery on a hand, that was hurt after an IED went off under the truck he was driving.

He spent a full year trying to get the VA to help. He finally said screw it, and got a private doctor, and was seen the following week for surgery, and had it completed.

I've told to many people who said they picked a private doctor over waiting for VA health care for months on end.

And when you look at the VA wait list scandal, where they dumped people off the list, so they could say no one was waiting too long for care, clearly my anecdotel evidence played out in documented fashion.

The VA suffers from the same cycles, that other socialized care systems do. All socialized care starts out fine, until the demands out pace the funds availible. Then you end up with deaths and massive wait lists. Then there is a huge outcry, and taxes are increased, spending is increased, and the deaths and wait times are lowered. Then the cycle repeats. Demands increase beyond the financial limits, deaths and wait times increase, and people start screaming again, and taxes and spending is raised yet again.

We've seen this in Europe, and particularly in the UK, where they have had this cycle 3 times now.

We've seen this in Canada, where they have had it at least twice, to the point where the citizens sued the government to gain the right to private health care.

And we've seen this with the VA system. After the scandal things improved. But it won't last. Things will get worse again, like all socialized systems.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I see the same phenomenon whenever the VA medical care is being discussed.
The news media acts like the VA is a total disaster, and needs dismantled and restructured from top to bottom. So a lot of the public has a negative view of the VA because of the media
Yet, my experience with the VA has been very positive, and most of the veterans I know feel the same way. ...

It depends greatly on where you are, and the cost of living.

Some places have good VA care. Some do.

Just like some Medicaid homes are actually pretty nice.

The problem isn't that this Medicaid home in California is underfunded, and that Medicaid home in Kansas is over funded.

There are two conflicting reasons why this happens.

First $100,000 dollars in Kansas goes way way farther, than $200,000 does in California.
Second, Kansas has far fewer people using the system, than the number of people using it in California.

So you have a combination of money in Kansas goes farther than in California, at the same time that far more people are using it in California, than in Kansas.

I can say with certainty, that the vast majority of people who use the VA system, hate the VA system.

My relatives are all ex-military. My in laws are ex military. I have met many other ex-military. Not one... not even one.. has had a good report of the VA system. The VA system is very bad for most Americans.

My in law, needed some surgery on a hand, that was hurt after an IED went off under the truck he was driving.

He spent a full year trying to get the VA to help. He finally said screw it, and got a private doctor, and was seen the following week for surgery, and had it completed.

I've told to many people who said they picked a private doctor over waiting for VA health care for months on end.

And when you look at the VA wait list scandal, where they dumped people off the list, so they could say no one was waiting too long for care, clearly my anecdotel evidence played out in documented fashion.

The VA suffers from the same cycles, that other socialized care systems do. All socialized care starts out fine, until the demands out pace the funds availible. Then you end up with deaths and massive wait lists. Then there is a huge outcry, and taxes are increased, spending is increased, and the deaths and wait times are lowered. Then the cycle repeats. Demands increase beyond the financial limits, deaths and wait times increase, and people start screaming again, and taxes and spending is raised yet again.

We've seen this in Europe, and particularly in the UK, where they have had this cycle 3 times now.

We've seen this in Canada, where they have had it at least twice, to the point where the citizens sued the government to gain the right to private health care.

And we've seen this with the VA system. After the scandal things improved. But it won't last. Things will get worse again, like all socialized systems.

Usually, I don't complain to much about the VA. They normally do a bangup job. But when I needed Cateracs removed, I waited for months. One eye was legally blind, the otherer was 30 days behind it. I had to avoid driving at night. I went to the same Specialist that the VA uses and used my Medicare and Tricare and got it done without 30 days. They also corrected by night blindness. About 2 weeks after I got the operation on the last eye, I get a call from the VA wanting to schedule me within 6 months. In 6 months, without the operations, I would have been completely legally blind in both eyes not even able to see 4 feet in front me in focus. How much did Medicare and Tricare pay for? All of it.

I am not your normal VA customer. I can afford to have things done outside of the VA but some things are just more easier to use the VA. About a month ago, I spent 4 days in the VA. So it ain't all bad.

 

[Andylusion]

I see the same phenomenon whenever the VA medical care is being discussed.
The news media acts like the VA is a total disaster, and needs dismantled and restructured from top to bottom. So a lot of the public has a negative view of the VA because of the media
Yet, my experience with the VA has been very positive, and most of the veterans I know feel the same way. ...

It depends greatly on where you are, and the cost of living.

Some places have good VA care. Some do.

Just like some Medicaid homes are actually pretty nice.

The problem isn't that this Medicaid home in California is underfunded, and that Medicaid home in Kansas is over funded.

There are two conflicting reasons why this happens.

First $100,000 dollars in Kansas goes way way farther, than $200,000 does in California.
Second, Kansas has far fewer people using the system, than the number of people using it in California.

So you have a combination of money in Kansas goes farther than in California, at the same time that far more people are using it in California, than in Kansas.

I can say with certainty, that the vast majority of people who use the VA system, hate the VA system.

My relatives are all ex-military. My in laws are ex military. I have met many other ex-military. Not one... not even one.. has had a good report of the VA system. The VA system is very bad for most Americans.

My in law, needed some surgery on a hand, that was hurt after an IED went off under the truck he was driving.

He spent a full year trying to get the VA to help. He finally said screw it, and got a private doctor, and was seen the following week for surgery, and had it completed.

I've told to many people who said they picked a private doctor over waiting for VA health care for months on end.

And when you look at the VA wait list scandal, where they dumped people off the list, so they could say no one was waiting too long for care, clearly my anecdotel evidence played out in documented fashion.

The VA suffers from the same cycles, that other socialized care systems do. All socialized care starts out fine, until the demands out pace the funds availible. Then you end up with deaths and massive wait lists. Then there is a huge outcry, and taxes are increased, spending is increased, and the deaths and wait times are lowered. Then the cycle repeats. Demands increase beyond the financial limits, deaths and wait times increase, and people start screaming again, and taxes and spending is raised yet again.

We've seen this in Europe, and particularly in the UK, where they have had this cycle 3 times now.

We've seen this in Canada, where they have had it at least twice, to the point where the citizens sued the government to gain the right to private health care.

And we've seen this with the VA system. After the scandal things improved. But it won't last. Things will get worse again, like all socialized systems.

Usually, I don't complain to much about the VA. They normally do a bangup job. But when I needed Cateracs removed, I waited for months. One eye was legally blind, the otherer was 30 days behind it. I had to avoid driving at night. I went to the same Specialist that the VA uses and used my Medicare and Tricare and got it done without 30 days. They also corrected by night blindness. About 2 weeks after I got the operation on the last eye, I get a call from the VA wanting to schedule me within 6 months. In 6 months, without the operations, I would have been completely legally blind in both eyes not even able to see 4 feet in front me in focus. How much did Medicare and Tricare pay for? All of it.

I am not your normal VA customer. I can afford to have things done outside of the VA but some things are just more easier to use the VA. About a month ago, I spent 4 days in the VA. So it ain't all bad.

Right, my in law had the same experience with getting his hand fixed. He was in an IED attack in Iraq, and started having problems with his hands during the year he was back in the US.

So he tried and tried to get surgery for his hand, for months and months, while his hand was getting to the point of being unusable. Finally he just decided to see a private doctor, paid for the surgery, and after almost 12 months of waiting for the VA, he had the surgery done by a private doctor, about one week after seeing the private doctor. What the VA couldn't do in almost a year, a private doctor got done in 7 days.

Now let me ask you, do you understand why that is, the way that it is?

See in a capitalist system, the more customers you have... the more resources you have. Because customer pay... and thus you have more resources. The money customers pay into the business, allows the business to provide more services.

So as more people used the services of that doctor, the doctor had more money to provide more services. He has every reason and incentive to provide quick quality service, because otherwise those patients, which are customers, will leave and find another doctor.

Similarly like a private hospital, as more people use ambulances, there is more money to buy, and hire people to operate, more ambulances.

But the VA isn't a capitalist system. The government dictates how much money there is, which is limited by the governments budget, which is split between hundreds of things, like green energy grants, and food stamps, and so on.

The government has to put in place a budget, that dictates how much a given VA hospital gets in funding.

So what happens when the number of people wanting services, exceeds the amount of money for those services?

Rationing. Every single government run health care system in the entire world, has some form of rationing. Because you have to. And that rationing means, that when the available spots for surgery (which is limited by government funds) is exceeded by the number of people wanting surgery.... then you get to wait for months, and sometimes years.

This is why in Canada, where health care is supposedly freely provided to all citizens, they have companies like Timely Medical, which their only product is allowing people to pay for health care by going to the US for care.

Timely Medical | Timely Surgery at Affordable Prices

Recover quickly from surgery with Timely Medical. Enjoy discounts up to 80% and return to your routine within two weeks. Contact us for a free consult.

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[TheParser]

Many, many African Americans no doubt love the police.

They have no illusions about the violent behavior of a significant percentage of their young gentlemen.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I am not surprized at all because I have had multiple blue collar jobs and worked among blacks every single day for about eight years.

I also have two cousins that were cops, and one still is though he is a desk jockey.

BLM is not a movement that organically emerged from the black community and therefore it doe snot reflect thje values of the black community, such as BLMs endorsement of transgender freaks and their plan to dismantle the family. Blacks dont want any of that bullshit. Blacks also know how much safer their communities are with a police presence and how dangerous it is without police around.

BLM isa sideshow led by Marxists asnd useful as a conduit for Democrat campaign donations from corporations that evade our donation limits.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

Yeah, this does not surprise me. Most people complain about how others are treated, more than themselves.

I second this.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[Billiejeens]

I see the same phenomenon whenever the VA medical care is being discussed.
The news media acts like the VA is a total disaster, and needs dismantled and restructured from top to bottom. So a lot of the public has a negative view of the VA because of the media
Yet, my experience with the VA has been very positive, and most of the veterans I know feel the same way. ...

It depends greatly on where you are, and the cost of living.

Some places have good VA care. Some do.

Just like some Medicaid homes are actually pretty nice.

The problem isn't that this Medicaid home in California is underfunded, and that Medicaid home in Kansas is over funded.

There are two conflicting reasons why this happens.

First $100,000 dollars in Kansas goes way way farther, than $200,000 does in California.
Second, Kansas has far fewer people using the system, than the number of people using it in California.

So you have a combination of money in Kansas goes farther than in California, at the same time that far more people are using it in California, than in Kansas.

I can say with certainty, that the vast majority of people who use the VA system, hate the VA system.

My relatives are all ex-military. My in laws are ex military. I have met many other ex-military. Not one... not even one.. has had a good report of the VA system. The VA system is very bad for most Americans.

My in law, needed some surgery on a hand, that was hurt after an IED went off under the truck he was driving.

He spent a full year trying to get the VA to help. He finally said screw it, and got a private doctor, and was seen the following week for surgery, and had it completed.

I've told to many people who said they picked a private doctor over waiting for VA health care for months on end.

And when you look at the VA wait list scandal, where they dumped people off the list, so they could say no one was waiting too long for care, clearly my anecdotel evidence played out in documented fashion.

The VA suffers from the same cycles, that other socialized care systems do. All socialized care starts out fine, until the demands out pace the funds availible. Then you end up with deaths and massive wait lists. Then there is a huge outcry, and taxes are increased, spending is increased, and the deaths and wait times are lowered. Then the cycle repeats. Demands increase beyond the financial limits, deaths and wait times increase, and people start screaming again, and taxes and spending is raised yet again.

We've seen this in Europe, and particularly in the UK, where they have had this cycle 3 times now.

We've seen this in Canada, where they have had it at least twice, to the point where the citizens sued the government to gain the right to private health care.

And we've seen this with the VA system. After the scandal things improved. But it won't last. Things will get worse again, like all socialized systems.

Usually, I don't complain to much about the VA. They normally do a bangup job. But when I needed Cateracs removed, I waited for months. One eye was legally blind, the otherer was 30 days behind it. I had to avoid driving at night. I went to the same Specialist that the VA uses and used my Medicare and Tricare and got it done without 30 days. They also corrected by night blindness. About 2 weeks after I got the operation on the last eye, I get a call from the VA wanting to schedule me within 6 months. In 6 months, without the operations, I would have been completely legally blind in both eyes not even able to see 4 feet in front me in focus. How much did Medicare and Tricare pay for? All of it.

I am not your normal VA customer. I can afford to have things done outside of the VA but some things are just more easier to use the VA. About a month ago, I spent 4 days in the VA. So it ain't all bad.

Were they able to get the planks out?

 

[Billiejeens]

Surprised me, I guess the media gives the rabble too much air time

“When asked, ‘How satisfied are you…'”? Remember, this is a poll of black respondents. “When asked, ‘How satisfied are you with the job your local police department does,’ 21% said ‘very satisfied,’ 51% said somewhat satisfied, 12% said somewhat dissatisfied, and only 5% said that they were ‘very’ dissatisfied. These results do not suggest a complete endorsement of contemporary policing, as many blacks report negative interactions.

Poll of African-American Views on Cops Debunks Myths

RUSH: "Yet nearly [75%] of surveyed African-Americans report themselves satisfied with their local police departments." What? Who would believe that?

www.rushlimbaugh.com

Maybe I am misreading your comment, but that it is such a low percentage does not surprise me.
The people who benefit the most from Police Protection are poor urban blacks just trying to live their lives.