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Once one lie falls, the rest must fall.
The entire wall of lies can be penetrated by nailing down one key lie, that is still told as a "debunk" to Ruby Freeman's contention that Giuliani lied when he said that reporters and observers were told that vote counting in Fulton County's State Farm Arena had stopped for the night, at about 10:30 pm.
There is even a transparent strawman lie, in Lead Stories: "Fact Check: GOP Observers Did NOT Swear In Affidavits They Were Told To Leave Fulton County, Georgia, Vote Count Center On Election Night." Fact Check: GOP Observers Did NOT Swear In Affidavits They Were Told To Leave Fulton County, Georgia, Vote Count Center On Election Night | Lead Stories
Just like the shills here, they say the other side said something that they never said, then proceed to debunk it. This level of desperation is all one needs to see which side is lying. No one said "observers were told to leave." They were told counting was halted for the night.
Even the Georgia Secretary of State repeated the lie.
GA Sec. of State report on Fulton County after-hours vote counting
https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/2023-06/SEB2020-059 ROI redacted.pdf
But here is what the election observers actually said.
Affidavit of election observer Mitchell Harrison
DocumentCloud
What is the main point here? That the truth doesn't change and truth is a stubborn thing no matter how much gaslighting the Jew media does, like all slick, weasel-wordy lawyers. No they weren't told to leave. The affidavits don't say that. They say they were told counting was halted, at which point what is the point in staying? But now based on this lie which shows that the Georgia elections division has no truth in it, Ruby is painted as a teary eyed victim. And Rudy Giuliani, who I don't like, is driven to financial ruin.
Worse than that hundreds of peaceful citizens who were only exercising their right to protest a stolen election are rotting in jail because of these lies.
Remember that is when Ruby and her daughter pulled out boxes from underneath tables and kept scanning away. We don't know what they were doing. But we know what led up to it was a lie.
The point is we must be like bulldogs, and show we will never let go of the truth. Keep pointing out these facts anywhere and everywhere. The truth cannot die unless we let it die. And they will be emboldened to do it again.
Once one lie falls, the rest must fall.
The entire wall of lies can be penetrated by nailing down one key lie, that is still told as a "debunk" to Ruby Freeman's contention that Giuliani lied when he said that reporters and observers were told that vote counting in Fulton County's State Farm Arena had stopped for the night, at about 10:30 pm.
There is even a transparent strawman lie, in Lead Stories: "Fact Check: GOP Observers Did NOT Swear In Affidavits They Were Told To Leave Fulton County, Georgia, Vote Count Center On Election Night." Fact Check: GOP Observers Did NOT Swear In Affidavits They Were Told To Leave Fulton County, Georgia, Vote Count Center On Election Night | Lead Stories
Just like the shills here, they say the other side said something that they never said, then proceed to debunk it. This level of desperation is all one needs to see which side is lying. No one said "observers were told to leave." They were told counting was halted for the night.
Even the Georgia Secretary of State repeated the lie.
GA Sec. of State report on Fulton County after-hours vote counting
https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/2023-06/SEB2020-059 ROI redacted.pdf
But here is what the election observers actually said.
Affidavit of election observer Mitchell Harrison
DocumentCloud
What is the main point here? That the truth doesn't change and truth is a stubborn thing no matter how much gaslighting the Jew media does, like all slick, weasel-wordy lawyers. No they weren't told to leave. The affidavits don't say that. They say they were told counting was halted, at which point what is the point in staying? But now based on this lie which shows that the Georgia elections division has no truth in it, Ruby is painted as a teary eyed victim. And Rudy Giuliani, who I don't like, is driven to financial ruin.
Worse than that hundreds of peaceful citizens who were only exercising their right to protest a stolen election are rotting in jail because of these lies.
Remember that is when Ruby and her daughter pulled out boxes from underneath tables and kept scanning away. We don't know what they were doing. But we know what led up to it was a lie.
The point is we must be like bulldogs, and show we will never let go of the truth. Keep pointing out these facts anywhere and everywhere. The truth cannot die unless we let it die. And they will be emboldened to do it again.
Once one lie falls, the rest must fall.
The Federalist
The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not 'Debunked.' Not Even Close
No, The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not ‘Debunked.’ Not Even Close
A Big Tech-backed “fact” “checking” outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence in support of Republicans’ claims of significant election problems at a Thursday Georgia Senate hearing. It didn’t. Not even close.
Newly discovered security footage from Georgia’s State Farm Arena showed dozens of ballot counters, media, and Republican observers leaving en masse at the same time from the ballot-counting area for Fulton County. After they left, a small remnant of about four workers began pulling trunks containing thousands of ballots from underneath a table with a long tablecloth and running them through machines.
The footage supported claims from Republicans that they were told counting had stopped for the night, only to find out hours later that it had kept going on. You can and should watch the 12-minute portion of the testimony from Jacki Pick here.
On Friday morning, a group called Lead Stories published a “hoax alert” falsely claiming to have debunked the security video. The Washington Post, Newsweek, and other outlets followed along, criticizing non-leftist journalists for giving the video traction. In fact, none of the claims made by the Republicans were debunked.
Lead Stories’ “fact” “check” says government officials told them everything was fine with the counting, that the ballots were in “containers — not suitcases,” and that “party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night.”
Leaving aside whether relying solely and uncritically on government officials’ claims constitutes anything close to a “fact” “check,” let’s look at the claim that party observers were never told that counting was over for the night. In Lead Stories’ regurgitation of the government officials’ claims, only the people who cut open the absentee ballot envelopes were sent home, while ballot counters and scanners were retained and kept working — and no one told the press or other observers they were done counting.
Were Republican Poll Watchers and the Media Told Counting Had Stopped For The Night?
Georgia Republican Party Chairman David Shafer has consistently said that’s what happened at State Farm Arena, beginning hours after the election:
That claim, which he has repeated consistently, is backed by sworn affidavits from two Republican observers, who further allege they were kept an unreasonable distance from the ballots even while they were at State Farm Arena, making it completely impossible to meaningfully do their jobs. (The video, which shows the room from four different angles, fully supports the claim that poll watchers were kept away from meaningful observation of ballot handling.)
The observers say that they arrived for their observation jobs around 8 p.m. They say in the first half of the 10 o’clock hour, a woman with blonde braids who appeared to be a supervisor “yelled out” to those present in the room that they would stop working for the night and would resume in the morning. The Republican poll watchers said they asked Fulton County Elections Spokesperson Regina Waller questions about the status of the ballot count multiple times but that she refused to answer.
Lead Stories, however, says, “There was never an announcement made to the media and other observers about the counting being over for the night and them needing to leave, according to [Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia Secretary of State], who was provided information by the media liaison, who was present.” While Lead Stories doesn’t name the media liaison, the media liaison who was present that night, according to the affidavits, was Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections.
OK, so on the one hand you have sworn affidavits from observers saying that supervisors told ballot counters to go home for the evening shortly after 10 p.m. and a video showing everyone leaving en masse at that time. And on the other hand, you have two government officials promising that no one was told that counting was over. Is there any other evidence to consider?
Well, on election night, ABC News reported that ballot counters were sent home at the time that the Republican observers said everyone was told counting had stopped. Their source? Regina Waller:
