Adults vote for policies….not persons.

[Moonglow]

So i guess this is the party/platform thread? ~S~

It's a rambling vortex of false narratives and lies from an Ivy League alumnus.

 

[sparky]

It's a rambling vortex of false narratives and lies from an Ivy League alumnus.

something i never was, nor will ever be Moon.....~S~

 

[Moonglow]

something i never was, nor will ever be Moon.....~S~

Polivinylslick is.

 

[sparky]

Polivinylslick is.

sorry, ive a 3 syllable limit moon.... ~S~

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing will change your mind. Keep on thinking Joseph McCarthy is a hero. I could care less. Peoplelike you will never change.

Can you name any innocent American who was so ruined by McCarthy?



Since you can't, doesn't that make you one of the simpletons manipulated by Socialists/Communists/Democrats?


It's a fair question, isn't it.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Who wrote this?

“ There were hundreds if not thousands of people who lost jobs, careers, even families based on McCarty's (sic) over reach and list he compiled and interrogated. Innocent people.”


Can you name any innocent American who was so ruined by McCarthy?



Since you can't, doesn't that make you one of the simpletons manipulated by Socialists/Communists/Democrats?

McCarthy lost support in 1953 when he started attacking the U.S. Army and suggesting that Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower was protecting subversives.

McCarthy's strained relations with Senate colleagues created a trapdoor. It was sprung after many Republicans realized that he had shifted the attack away from the Democrats. What use was his slogan “20 Years of Treason” once Eisenhower was in office? McCarthy's answer was “21 Years of Treason!” Eisenhower's supporters could no longer tolerate such a loose cannon, and as McCarthy unwisely shifted his attacks to Eisenhower's beloved Army, his cause was doomed. While many Americans distrusted Ivy League, striped pants diplomats, soldiers were held in high regard; McCarthy's charges of subversion were flimsy (one Communist dentist had been automatically promoted); he sabotaged his own reputation by finagling favors for an aide who had been drafted. The televised hearings proved fatal to an ill-prepared bully. After the Democrats regained control of Congress in the 1954 elections, the censure motion carried, 67–22. McCarthy's appeal, so widespread yet superficial, evaporated overnight and the Senator faded into the shadows.

 

[sparky]

Can you name any innocent American who was so ruined by McCarthy?

innocent of what PC?
~S~

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing will change your mind. Keep on thinking Joseph McCarthy is a hero. I could care less. Peoplelike you will never change.

Senator Jos. McCarthy is an American hero. He simply publicized the agents of Stalin in FDR's government.

But since you vote for today's communists, you simply don't care and you slander anyone trying to protect America.



1. As an exercise in imagination, how do you suppose Paul Revere would have been characterized if all descriptions of him had been written by King George and his Revolutionary War era Brits?
And, of course, that is what has happened to the epitaph and reputation of a man who exchanged his life to warn America.



2. On Memorial Day

Joseph McCarthy, in full Joseph Raymond , (born November 14, 1908, near Appleton, Wisconsin, U.S.—died May 2, 1957, Bethesda, Maryland), U.S. senator who lent his name to the term McCarthyism. McCarthy dominated the U.S. political climate in the early 1950s through his sensational but unproven charges of communist subversion in high government circles. In 1954, in a rare move, his Senate colleagues officially censured him for unbecoming conduct.
Britannica.com




3. "... his sensational but unproven charges of communist subversion..."
Britannica, as is true of every Left-controlled publication, clouds the truth in the interests of Marxism and neo-Marxism.

Senator Joe McCarthy confronted government officials concealing communist involvement and excessively lax security with regards to Communists in sensitive U.S. Government posts. In many cases he was on target, with over 81 of the names he gave the Tydings committee resulting in resignations or movement of security risks.

Given that over 200 of the spies uncovered in the Venona decrypts were never identified, we can only speculate as to the national security impact of removing Communists from key DoD and State Dept posts. Arthur Herman, author of "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator," says that the accuracy of McCarthy's charges "was no longer a matter of debate," that they are "now accepted as fact."

And The New York Post's Eric Fettmann has noted: "growing historical evidence underscores that, whatever his rhetorical and investigative excesses - and they were substantial - McCarthy was a lot closer to the truth about Communism than were his foes."




4. Time and again we hear from government school grads that Senator McCarty "ruined the lives of innocent Americans with baseless charges."
The simplest way to prove what ignorant sheep these Democrat supporters are is to ask for the names of any such "innocent Americans" whose lives were "ruined" by McCarthy......and note the response....

 

[PoliticalChic]

McCarthy lost support in 1953 when he started attacking the U.S. Army and suggesting that Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower was protecting subversives.

McCarthy's strained relations with Senate colleagues created a trapdoor. It was sprung after many Republicans realized that he had shifted the attack away from the Democrats. What use was his slogan “20 Years of Treason” once Eisenhower was in office? McCarthy's answer was “21 Years of Treason!” Eisenhower's supporters could no longer tolerate such a loose cannon, and as McCarthy unwisely shifted his attacks to Eisenhower's beloved Army, his cause was doomed. While many Americans distrusted Ivy League, striped pants diplomats, soldiers were held in high regard; McCarthy's charges of subversion were flimsy (one Communist dentist had been automatically promoted); he sabotaged his own reputation by finagling favors for an aide who had been drafted. The televised hearings proved fatal to an ill-prepared bully. After the Democrats regained control of Congress in the 1954 elections, the censure motion carried, 67–22. McCarthy's appeal, so widespread yet superficial, evaporated overnight and the Senator faded into the shadows.

But you can't name a single one of those "thousands" he ruined????


Not a single one?


So you're one of the 22% of Americans who will never question the Democrats, even after I force you to admit you bought a lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

innocent of what PC?
~S~

Being a communist agent or supporter.

Do you know what McCarty did?

1. McCarthy’s primary goal was not to expose individual Communists, he was simply demanding of the liberal establishment: Why were they sheltering traitors? It was the exact same point Eisenhower was making when he directed Attorney General Brownell to inform the public that President Truman had wittingly place a Soviet spy in a key position at the IMF… For decades, people who should not have been allowed anywhere a government job were strolling into sensitive positions with the US government. For the most part, accusations were not aimed at sending the accused to a gulag, only to private practice.


2. Senator Joe McCarthy confronted government officials concealing communist involvement and excessively lax security with regards to Communists in sensitive U.S. Government posts. In many cases he was on target, with over 81 of the names he gave the Tydings committee resulting in resignations or movement of security risks. Given that over 200 of the spies uncovered in the Venona decrypts were never identified, we can only speculate as to the national security impact of removing Communists from key DoD and State Dept posts. Arthur Herman, author of "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator," says that the accuracy of McCarthy's charges "was no longer a matter of debate," that they are "now accepted as fact." And The New York Post's Eric Fettmann has noted: "growing historical evidence underscores that, whatever his rhetorical and investigative excesses - and they were substantial - McCarthy was a lot closer to the truth about Communism than were his foes."

3. The question wasn’t simply whether people like William Remington were agents of Stalin. He was [War Production Board; Office of Emergency Management, convicted for perjury, killed in prison] (see listing of Soviet agents List of Eastern Bloc agents in the United States - Wikipedia) The question was whether he should be working for the government.



4. Fifty years of liberal propaganda people to thinking of Communist Party member as lovable idealists and the urge to fire them from their government jobs as an irrational anachronistic prejudice. Allowing card-carrying members of the Communist Party to handle classified material after the Alger Hiss case would be like encouraging al-Qaeda members to carry box cutters on airplanes after 9-11.

 

[sparky]

Being a communist agent or supporter.

Do you know what McCarty did?

1. McCarthy’s primary goal was not to expose individual Communists, he was simply demanding of the liberal establishment: Why were they sheltering traitors? It was the exact same point Eisenhower was making when he directed Attorney General Brownell to inform the public that President Truman had wittingly place a Soviet spy in a key position at the IMF… For decades, people who should not have been allowed anywhere a government job were strolling into sensitive positions with the US government. For the most part, accusations were not aimed at sending the accused to a gulag, only to private practice.


2. Senator Joe McCarthy confronted government officials concealing communist involvement and excessively lax security with regards to Communists in sensitive U.S. Government posts. In many cases he was on target, with over 81 of the names he gave the Tydings committee resulting in resignations or movement of security risks. Given that over 200 of the spies uncovered in the Venona decrypts were never identified, we can only speculate as to the national security impact of removing Communists from key DoD and State Dept posts. Arthur Herman, author of "Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator," says that the accuracy of McCarthy's charges "was no longer a matter of debate," that they are "now accepted as fact." And The New York Post's Eric Fettmann has noted: "growing historical evidence underscores that, whatever his rhetorical and investigative excesses - and they were substantial - McCarthy was a lot closer to the truth about Communism than were his foes."

3. The question wasn’t simply whether people like William Remington were agents of Stalin. He was [War Production Board; Office of Emergency Management, convicted for perjury, killed in prison] (see listing of Soviet agents List of Eastern Bloc agents in the United States - Wikipedia) The question was whether he should be working for the government.



4. Fifty years of liberal propaganda people to thinking of Communist Party member as lovable idealists and the urge to fire them from their government jobs as an irrational anachronistic prejudice. Allowing card-carrying members of the Communist Party to handle classified material after the Alger Hiss case would be like encouraging al-Qaeda members to carry box cutters on airplanes after 9-11.

and just what about those idealists are any different from say, the lefty liberals (Bernie in my state) today PC?

~S~

 

[PoliticalChic]

and just what about those idealists are any different from say, the lefty liberals (Bernie in my state) today PC?

~S~

Did I say there was any difference?

1. The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory. Even at their peak, in the ‘30’s, the Communist Party of the United States never had more than 100 thousand members: so deception of the ‘dupes’ was critical.
   1. The archives tell a tale of plans and schemes between the CPUSA and the Communist International in Moscow, to dupe progressives and liberals: “go to rallies,” “don’t let them know you are a communist!,” “If anyone reveals that you are a communist, claim it is red-baiting,” “yell ‘McCarthyism!”Dr. Paul Kengor, Hoover Institution, Stanford “DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century

"Dupes" is worth reading.

socialists/communsits/Marxists have taken control of the Democrat Party,



Vox

https://www.vox.com › policy-and-politics › 2018 › 6 › 27 › 17509604 › alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democratic-socialist-of-america
DSA's ancestor, the Socialist Party of America, really was a political party that ran candidates like [Eugene] Debs and controlled the mayoralty of Milwaukee for years.

 

[Invisibleflash]

1. Did you vote for Biden over Trump? Or Trump over Biden?
That's a grave error.


2. Did your vote depend on how a candidate looks, his height, his hair?


3. Did you rely on negative news articles, claims of "lies," unsavory" sexual practices or innuendo?


4. All of the abve are well practiced forms of propaganda, which control of the means of dissemination of information allows.


5. The title of the thread is the only way to vote, and here is the proof:
For at least 200 days President Biden has been

NON COMPOS MENTIS Definition & Meaning​

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Merriam-Webster
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: not of sound mind : lacking mental ability to understand the nature, consequences, and effect of a situation or transaction.


So who has been President?
Not the man you voted for.....just a group who determined policy.


"During an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic (we'll get to that aspect in a minute), the authors of one such "now it can be told" book, "Original Sin," described what's being called a "politburo" that existed consisting of people who were the ones making the actual decisions at the White House."
Twitchy.com

I vote for the least destructive candidate. But I may be wrong. All politicians lie and lie. So, it is always a crapshoot.

 

[Invisibleflash]

 

[PoliticalChic]

I vote for the least destructive candidate. But I may be wrong. All politicians lie and lie. So, it is always a crapshoot.

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First of all, I don't recall interacting with you, or seeing your posts before. I hope to see more of them.


The premise in the OP is that one should vote for the policies that benefit you, your family and your nation.


Compare Trump's policies to these Democrats policies:

Race and gender preferences

Language police

No punishment for criminals

Open borders

Attacks on the Supreme Court

Transgender sports competitions

Antisemitism

Wealth tax

Cancel culture

Welfare State

Government run healthcare mandates

Sanctuary Cities

Two-Tiered Justice system

 

[ElmerMudd]

But you can't name a single one of those "thousands" he ruined????


Not a single one?


So you're one of the 22% of Americans who will never question the Democrats, even after I force you to admit you bought a lie.

Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

 

[dblack]

Unscrupulous cowards vote for the lesser-of-two-evils.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Unscrupulous cowards vote for the lesser-of-two-evils.

Only a complete dolt would imagine that anyone beyond the two main candidates could will a national election.

Only a sniveling coward would pretend that he is voting for a knight in shining armor.
Pick one of the two that can win and stop being afraid to make an argument for your vote.

Otherwise.....stop wasting space in the thread.

 

[dblack]

Only a complete dolt would imagine that anyone beyond the two main candidates could will a national election.

Only a sniveling coward would pretend that he is voting for a knight in shining armor.
Pick one of the two that can win and stop being afraid to make an argument for your vote.

Otherwise.....stop wasting space in the thread.

Only a short sighted idiot would vote for a bad candidate on purpose. And that's what people are doing. How can any good ever come of it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Only a short sighted idiot would vote for a bad candidate on purpose. And that's what people are doing. How can any good ever come of it?

Go back under the rock.

You have nothing to add to the questions at hand. You are what is known as a message board freeloader.



Check this out, you moron:

Under Trump gasoline was about $1.80 a gallon….but you voted against that

Under Trump we were energy independent….but you voted against that.

Under Trump 80% of illegal alien were kept in Mexico….but you voted against that.

Under Trump inflation was 1.4%….but you voted against that.

Under Trump crime was far lower, as were homicides….but you voted against that.

Under Trump Iran was kept in a box….but you voted against that.

Under Trump America had an airbase near both China and Iran….but you voted against that.

Under Trump our President wasn’t on China’s payroll….but you voted against that.

Under Trump cartels weren’t free to operate….but you voted against that.

Under Trump government didn’t favor racism, CRT, gender mutilation….but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have confiscatory tax policy….but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have a government working with big tech to end free speech….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, Putin didn’t invade Ukraine….but you voted against that

Under Trump, the savages of Hamas didn’t dare to slaughter concert goers….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, peace in the Middle East….but you voted against that.

Under Trump, three peace treaties between Israel and their Arab neighbors…..but you voted against that.

Under Trump, securing our borders and not waiving in murderous MS13 gang members…..but you voted against that

Under Trump we avoided some 100,000 fatal drug overdoses…but you voted against that.

Under Trump we didn’t have lawfare, a legal system corrupted to use fake charges against political enemies….but you voted for Lawfare.

Under Trump, his side didn’t try to imprison or assassinate opponents.



You need not respond.