Abortion = Social JUSTICE?

[eagleseven]

Why do you presume that everyone choosing to abort thinks a fetus is human life?

Those in the business of killing often dehumanize their victims. It lessens the psychological impact of the act. This is why pro-choice advocates will never admit that fetuses are human...it is core to their psychological defense mechanisms.

As is why pro-lifers will always insist that life begins at conception.

Only, pro-lifers need no defense against the psychological trauma of taking human life.

Don't tell me that it isn't traumatic...I've had relatives undergo abortion, and it emotionally scarred them.

 

[Anguille]

As is why pro-lifers will always insist that life begins at conception.

Only, pro-lifers need no defense against the psychological trauma of taking human life.

Don't tell me that it isn't traumatic...I've had relatives undergo abortion, and it is an emotionally scarring experience for your average person.

You aren't pro life, You are anti choice which is anti life.
Forced pregnancy is psychological and physical trauma as well as what abortion sometimes is for women. And not only for the unfortunate woman. Any future persons possibly resulting from that forced pregnancy may learn of the conditions of his bis/her birth. Imagine how it must feel to know that you came into this world because your mother was forced to carry a fetus she didn't want? Why do you creeps want to cause that sort of psychological damage to an innocent child?

 

[JBeukema]

As is why pro-lifers will always insist that life begins at conception.

Only, pro-lifers need no defense against the psychological trauma of taking human life.

Don't tell me that it isn't traumatic...I've had relatives undergo abortion, and it is an emotionally scarring experience for your average person.

You aren't pro life, You are anti choice which is anti life.

Oh wait, you're serious...

Imagine how it must feel to know that you came into this world because your mother was forced to carry a fetus she didn't want?

One of my old bosses was a failed abortion...

Why do you creeps want to cause that sort of psychological damage to an innocent child?

I love how you, being unable to defend your position, constantly attack others

 

[Anguille]

What are you all cranky about now? Did I mention something you are particularly sensitive about? The lies you told last night, maybe?

My "claims" are completely supported by the Planned Parenthood website, and I have supplied all the necessary links.

You ignore these links, playing the fool. Or, at least I assumed you were acting stupid to annoy me.

But, maybe you are just a natural fool. Somehow, you think the information on the Planned Parenthood website would not be on their fliers?

And BTW, the website does not back up your ridiculous claims in any way.

I guess eagle has weaseled his way out of providing proof once again. Maybe he should change his name to weaselseven.

 

[eagleseven]

You aren't pro life, You are anti choice which is anti life.

Twist the words however you want, I don't give a damn what you call me.

Maybe I am death itself?

Forced pregnancy is psychological and physical trauma as well as what abortion sometimes is for women. And not only for the unfortunate woman. Any future persons possibly resulting from that forced pregnancy may learn of the conditions of his bis/her birth. Imagine how it must feel to know that you came into this world because your mother was forced to carry a fetus she didn't want? Why do you creeps want to cause that sort of psychological damage to an innocent child?

You are right. We should euthanize unwanted children.

If a professional woman discovers a few years after the condom broke that she does not want to be a mother, we need to respect her choice to do what's best for her family.

Just because a woman gave birth is no reason society should force her to endure the pain and trauma of motherhood.

 

[eagleseven]

My "claims" are completely supported by the Planned Parenthood website, and I have supplied all the necessary links.

You ignore these links, playing the fool. Or, at least I assumed you were acting stupid to annoy me.

But, maybe you are just a natural fool. Somehow, you think the information on the Planned Parenthood website would not be on their fliers?

And BTW, the website does not back up your ridiculous claims in any way.

I guess eagle has weaseled his way out of providing proof once again. Maybe he should change his name to weaselseven.

I have provided it. You are closing your eyes and singing, pretending it isn't there.

 

[Anguille]

Only, pro-lifers need no defense against the psychological trauma of taking human life.

Don't tell me that it isn't traumatic...I've had relatives undergo abortion, and it is an emotionally scarring experience for your average person.

You aren't pro life, You are anti choice which is anti life.

Oh wait, you're serious...

Imagine how it must feel to know that you came into this world because your mother was forced to carry a fetus she didn't want?

One of my old bosses was a failed abortion...

Why do you creeps want to cause that sort of psychological damage to an innocent child?

I love how you, being unable to defend your position, constantly attack others

I love how, unlike most posters who can't answer a question put to them and who just slink away hoping to be unnoticed, JBeuk instead, posts some lameass retort. Thus bringing even more attention to his failure.

 

[JBeukema]

I love how, unlike most posters who can't answer a question put to them and who just slink away hoping to be unnoticed, Anguille instead, posts some lameass retort. Thus bringing even more attention to its failure.

edited for correctness

you've never made a point

 

[Anguille]

You aren't pro life, You are anti choice which is anti life.

Twist the words however you want, I don't give a damn what you call me.

Maybe I am death itself?

Forced pregnancy is psychological and physical trauma as well as what abortion sometimes is for women. And not only for the unfortunate woman. Any future persons possibly resulting from that forced pregnancy may learn of the conditions of his bis/her birth. Imagine how it must feel to know that you came into this world because your mother was forced to carry a fetus she didn't want? Why do you creeps want to cause that sort of psychological damage to an innocent child?

You are right. We should euthanize unwanted children.

If a professional woman discovers a few years after the condom broke that she does not want to be a mother, we need to respect her choice to do what's best for her family.

Just because a woman gave birth is no reason society should force her to endure the pain and trauma of motherhood.

When you lame brains start posting fantasy stuff like this I know I've finally got you cornered.

You give yourself away, weasel. Clearly you have something against women in the professions.

Many of you anti choice, anti lifers would like to do just that, euthanize children. You don't give two shits about them once they are born. You whine about welfare and taxes. Fortunately we have laws against cruelty to children and we have adoption agencies to help find homes for unwanted children.
Difference between an unwanted fetus and an unwanted child : One cannot be removed from the mother and just plopped into the womb of another. An unwanted child can be plopped into the arms of another.

A fetus is part of a woman's body. A child is not.

I can't believe I wasted time pointing that out to you. Surely you're not that ignorant?

 

[Anguille]

I love how, unlike most posters who can't answer a question put to them and who just slink away hoping to be unnoticed, Anguille instead, posts some lameass retort. Thus bringing even more attention to its failure.

edited for correctness

you've never made a point

Nobody knows better how to make you look like a moron than yourself.

 

[Ravi]

You aren't pro life, You are anti choice which is anti life.

Twist the words however you want, I don't give a damn what you call me.

Maybe I am death itself?

Forced pregnancy is psychological and physical trauma as well as what abortion sometimes is for women. And not only for the unfortunate woman. Any future persons possibly resulting from that forced pregnancy may learn of the conditions of his bis/her birth. Imagine how it must feel to know that you came into this world because your mother was forced to carry a fetus she didn't want? Why do you creeps want to cause that sort of psychological damage to an innocent child?

You are right. We should euthanize unwanted children.

If a professional woman discovers a few years after the condom broke that she does not want to be a mother, we need to respect her choice to do what's best for her family.

Just because a woman gave birth is no reason society should force her to endure the pain and trauma of motherhood.

When you lame brains start posting fantasy stuff like this I know I've finally got you cornered.

You give yourself away, weasel. Clearly you have something against women in the professions.

Many of you anti choice, anti lifers would like to do just that, euthanize children. You don't give two shits about them once they are born. You whine about welfare and taxes. Fortunately we have laws against cruelty to children and we have adoption agencies to help find homes for unwanted children.
Difference between an unwanted fetus and an unwanted child : One cannot be removed from the mother and just plopped into the womb of another. An unwanted child can be plopped into the arms of another.

A fetus is part of a woman's body. A child is not.

I can't believe I wasted time pointing that out to you. Surely you're not that ignorant?

sigh...it's not really worth talking to people that hate women so much, is it, my friend. I swear I'm going to stay out of these threads and really I'm going to try my best.

 

[tigerbob]

Those in the business of killing often dehumanize their victims. It lessens the psychological impact of the act. This is why pro-choice advocates will never admit that fetuses are human...it is core to their psychological defense mechanisms.

As is why pro-lifers will always insist that life begins at conception.

Only, pro-lifers need no defense against the psychological trauma of taking human life.

Don't tell me that it isn't traumatic...I've had relatives undergo abortion, and it emotionally scarred them.

To your first point:

You're misunderstanding me. I was speaking of defense in terms of of their psychological need to establish a preposition, not from "psychological trauma".

To your second point:



I'm not telling you it isn't traumatic. You must be thinking of someone else's post.

For some people it's not a huge deal, but for most I am certain it will leave at least a vague feeling of regret and at most an almost incomprehensible sense of loss and guilt.

 

[JBeukema]

Many of you anti choice, anti lifers would like to do just that, euthanize children.

A fetus is part of a woman's body.

No, it's not. Try going back to the ssixth gade and learning elementary biology.

 

[Avatar4321]

Men need to stop having sex out of marriage or be ready to be a husband and father....

Let's see how you do....

protection doesn't give you permission either.... so boys, zip up- or shut up.

Why do you assume we are manwhores? You think we are going to encourage women to do something we wont do ourselves?

 

[Avatar4321]

Not me.

Once again, I pose the question..how is abortion "social justice"?

It's really so simply I would expect even you to get it.

If affluent women are legally given the right to choose, less affluent women who cannot afford that procedure need to have the government assist them in covering the cost of it.

Seriously, this is too complex a theory for you to grasp?

Except, that doesnt really answer the question. How is abortion "social justice"?

Is it really that difficult a question?

 

[AllieBaba]

Twist the words however you want, I don't give a damn what you call me.

Maybe I am death itself?

You are right. We should euthanize unwanted children.

If a professional woman discovers a few years after the condom broke that she does not want to be a mother, we need to respect her choice to do what's best for her family.

Just because a woman gave birth is no reason society should force her to endure the pain and trauma of motherhood.

When you lame brains start posting fantasy stuff like this I know I've finally got you cornered.

You give yourself away, weasel. Clearly you have something against women in the professions.

Many of you anti choice, anti lifers would like to do just that, euthanize children. You don't give two shits about them once they are born. You whine about welfare and taxes. Fortunately we have laws against cruelty to children and we have adoption agencies to help find homes for unwanted children.
Difference between an unwanted fetus and an unwanted child : One cannot be removed from the mother and just plopped into the womb of another. An unwanted child can be plopped into the arms of another.

A fetus is part of a woman's body. A child is not.

I can't believe I wasted time pointing that out to you. Surely you're not that ignorant?

sigh...it's not really worth talking to people that hate women so much, is it, my friend. I swear I'm going to stay out of these threads and really I'm going to try my best.

How does having compassion for a child = hatred for women?

Another post that belongs in the dungheap.

 

[Avatar4321]

Women and men of today have to thank margaret sanger for her work on educating the populous on birth control and the evil person that repugs now make her out to be is a false claim.

There would be no birth control of any sort, if it wasn't for her....and women would still be having 11 children a marriage.

If having a dozen kids in poverty is what you think was healthy for our society, then i don't know what to tell ya?

There was no birth' control pill and there was no legal abortion in her time and she did not even promote abortion so she is getting a bad wrap from the conservatives.

Why exactly do you think money is so important? Money is more important than human life? Is that really important? What the heck is so disabling about poverty? I've been poor my whole life. I still am. Sure I cant have all the luxaries other people have. But it doesnt change my ability to contribute to society or make the world a better place or my long term happiness.

What does it matter if have money or dont? We cant take our wealth with us when we die. Why do we pretend it's all that matters in this life?

 

[AllieBaba]

The reason children are abused and neglected in this world isn't because there aren't enough abortions...it's because there are too many.

You get a governmentally supported program which kills and de-values life, specifically INFANT life, and you will see crimes against children climb.

As they have been climbing ever since abortion became legal, the murder of children became MANSLAUGHTER, and teachers started telling kids to do whatever feels good at the moment...regardless of what their parents and pastors say.

 

[Avatar4321]

Well, if teaching about birth control is eugenetics as some claim, then Ambassador George H W Bush being sent to China by Nixon, with the goal of getting them to reduce their population growth and extending our birth control knowledge to them along with paying for the birth control pills they needed to start the program, which eventually lead to their program of today which forces abortion upon all women that already have one child....then....yeah, republicans had a major role in eugenetics, population control....primarily of unliked nations....

That is, if you think that birth control pills is support of eugenetics as some seem to, on this board?

I posted a link right after ravi's post on that showing that Prescott Bush, was the Treasurer for Margaret Sangers first fund raiser...

The thing is, after reading a little bit about her, I think that Prescott Bush supporting her movement was the right thing to do, if he did it for the reasons that she wanted to do it...but I am not so certain this is the case....?

why is it the Bush family is villified as people, yet you go and cite them as moral authorities on any issue you support? How does citing someone you think is pure evil, help you prove that your position is right?

It's like you have this faulty assumption that those who support preserving life worship at the feet of this family like the left worships Obama.

 

[Avatar4321]

Why is it that stupid people use 'eugenics' like it's a bad word?

Oh wait, they do that with lots of good ideas, like 'socialism' that threaten to upset the status quo...

Socialism and eugenics is the status quo sadly.