Debate Now Abortion Scenario: 23 week old premature baby is on life support.

[MarathonMike]

" Who Gets To Pay The Bill "

* Back Up And Try Again *

As abortion occurs before delivery , the question is stupid , but that is nothing new for the abortion anti-choice mind set .

It is amazing how the abortion anti-choice are not constantly wailing in tears about all those that died soon after birth when neonatal care did not exist .

A more relevant question is if there are developmental anomalies whether the woman can abort the fetus .

Should a woman be forced to carry a freak to term and shove it out her vagina to satisfy simpleton perverts obsessed with her having had SSSSEEEEEXXXXX , while claiming that THEIR GOAD NEVER MAKES MISTAKES ?

You''ve dodged the core issue as I expected from the "Reproductive Rights" crowd. It scares you to confront the reality of what abortion REALLY MEANS.

 

[HeyNorm]

If someone punches her in the stomach and the fetus dies, it’s homicide whether she wanted to keep it or not.

Doctor crushes the fetuses head and kills it, it is not homicide.

Yep, crazy

 

[MarathonMike]

If someone punches her in the stomach and the fetus dies, it’s homicide whether she wanted to keep it or not.

Doctor crushes the fetuses head and kills it, it is not homicide.

Yep, crazy

I knew at least someone would get it! Thanks

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Valid Perspectives Of Legal Positivism "

* Sanctimonious Sacrosanct Selling False Assertions *

If someone punches her in the stomach and the fetus dies, it’s homicide whether she wanted to keep it or not.
Doctor crushes the fetuses head and kills it, it is not homicide.
Yep, crazy

A fetus does not have constitutional protections and the offense is against the mother , while reasonable penalties can be set , even incarceration for a life sentence duration , as long as the penalty does not violate us 8th amendment .

A death sentence cannot be implemented because a fetus does not have constitutional protections , and to have ones own rite to life removed requires removing a rite to life of another .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Bloviate Posturing "

* Lacks Realism *

You''ve dodged the core issue as I expected from the "Reproductive Rights" crowd. It scares you to confront the reality of what abortion REALLY MEANS.

The OP assertion is blatantly stupid and is on par with the classic staple of abortion anti-choice banal that deceitfully bares false witness to assert that abortion at 23 weeks occurs without cause .

 

[HeyNorm]

" Valid Perspectives Of Legal Positivism "

* Sanctimonious Sacrosanct Selling False Assertions *

A fetus does not have constitutional protections and the offense is against the mother , while reasonable penalties can be set , even incarceration for a life sentence duration , as long as the penalty does not violate us 8th amendment .

A death sentence cannot be implemented because a fetus does not have constitutional protections , and to have ones own rite to life removed requires removing a rite to life of another .

Jim Crow would love you.

 

[MarathonMike]

" Bloviate Posturing "

* Lacks Realism *

The OP assertion is blatantly stupid and is on par with the classic staple of abortion anti-choice banal that deceitfully bares false witness to assert that abortion at 23 weeks occurs without cause .

Don't you hate it when someone makes you THINK? Abortion was so clean and antiseptic and I had to ruin it for you.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Sanctimonious Sacrosanct Anthropocentric Psychosis "

* Fake Ass Empathy For The Inchoate *

Don't you hate it when someone makes you THINK? Abortion was so clean and antiseptic and I had to ruin it for you.

This moniker does not maintain disillusions about veracity within nature , or that something can be separate from itself - to include a conjectural creator - though it seems you do .

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Bantering Of Traitors Against Us Citizens "

* Ad Hominem Character Assassination Does Not Qualify As Constitutional Argument *

Jim Crow would love you.

This moniker is neither devoid of compassion and empathy , nor devoid of apathy for justice , rather this moniker chooses to apply those aspects on behalf of the individual citizen , and not to apply those aspects from anthropocentric psychosis on behalf of an inchoate fetus .

 

[HeyNorm]

" Bantering Of Traitors Against Us Citizens "

* Ad Hominem Character Assassination Does Not Qualify As Constitutional Argument *

This moniker is neither devoid of compassion and empathy , nor devoid of apathy for justice , rather this moniker chooses to apply those aspects on behalf of the individual citizen , and not to apply those aspects from anthropocentric psychosis on behalf of an inchoate fetus .

Love it when dorks have to run their response through a language filter to seem elite.

Monk eye appears to be afraid for some reason.

Barbarians aren’t very good at debate afterall

 

[HeyNorm]

Don't you hate it when someone makes you THINK? Abortion was so clean and antiseptic and I had to ruin it for you.

You obviously did.

 

[Care4all]

What was described in the OP is a legitimate concern. The baby that is described is similar to the fetus you want the mother to have the ability to kill.

Your argument is that it is legitimate to kill a fetus because it can’t survive without someone supporting its ability to breath on its own. This scenario fits YOUR argument.

Please read for some insight at 23 weeks.... the whole article is heart wrenching....

'Nathan was born at 23 weeks. If I'd known then what I do now, I'd have wanted him to die in my arms'

Alexia Pearce adores her 'gorgeous' three-year-old son, yet she is aware that his life – a life blighted by cerebral palsy and chronic lung disease – is unlikely to last long into his teens. In this moving account, she asks: are we always right to save premature babies?

www.theguardian.com

 

[MarathonMike]

Please read for some insight at 23 weeks.... the whole article is heart wrenching....

'Nathan was born at 23 weeks. If I'd known then what I do now, I'd have wanted him to die in my arms'

Alexia Pearce adores her 'gorgeous' three-year-old son, yet she is aware that his life – a life blighted by cerebral palsy and chronic lung disease – is unlikely to last long into his teens. In this moving account, she asks: are we always right to save premature babies?

www.theguardian.com

This is a COMPLETELY different subject than the scenario I proposed. Just another deflection.

 

[HeyNorm]

Please read for some insight at 23 weeks.... the whole article is heart wrenching....

'Nathan was born at 23 weeks. If I'd known then what I do now, I'd have wanted him to die in my arms'

Alexia Pearce adores her 'gorgeous' three-year-old son, yet she is aware that his life – a life blighted by cerebral palsy and chronic lung disease – is unlikely to last long into his teens. In this moving account, she asks: are we always right to save premature babies?

www.theguardian.com

I don’t care who you think are subhuman. All humans deserve equal rights.

 

[HeyNorm]

This is a COMPLETELY different subject than the scenario I proposed. Just another deflection.

Of course it is. The left is desperate to make them subhuman. Bigotry at its best.

 

[MarathonMike]

" Sanctimonious Sacrosanct Anthropocentric Psychosis "

* Fake Ass Empathy For The Inchoate *

This moniker does not maintain disillusions about veracity within nature , or that something can be separate from itself - to include a conjectural creator - though it seems you do .

Blah Blah Blah. Still not able to formulate a cogent response. You obviously are scared to respond, just give up and move on.

 

[Winco]

I don’t care who you think are subhuman. All humans deserve equal rights.

So you support DEI?

 

[HeyNorm]

So you support DEI?

Two different subjects. Nice try

 

[Winco]

All humans deserve equal rights.

If you believe that All humans deserve equal rights, Then you support transgenders.

But you don't, so ONLY when it fits your agenda.

Two different subjects. Nice try

Only when it fits YOUR agenda.

 

[MarathonMike]

Two different subjects. Nice try

Amazing how they all run away from answering the debate question.