Zone1 Abortion and Transgender is Demonic

[hobelim]

The two birth narratives have always intrigued me but this is not really the thread.

Agreed. And I suspect you already have well thought out conclusions. Why not something more difficult, like feeding a multitude fish sandwiches in the middle of a desert with five loaves of bread and two fish leaving twelve baskets full of uneaten pieces, or the virgin birth, speaking of the two narratives? If nothing else it sure will piss off many dedicated and irrational "believers" if it doesn't help enlighten them to their superstitious foolishness.

Hell, since this thread is about abortion and transgenderism being demonic, why not alert them to their own demonic beliefs having aborted, murdered, the natural development of the minds of their own children and paralyzing them with cognitive dissonance since what they have been indoctrinated into "just believing" with threats of real and imaginary violence and eternal suffering in the fires of hell is contradicted by reality daily??

 

[kjw47]

So, you admit the errors of your ways...

Sad you never can agree with a truth i post, instead in your false reasoning twist it.

 

[JoeB131]

I also suspect the being you wanted to punch in the face was God, but a representative of God would do just as well. I get that a small boy probably did not understand the higher philosophy of God's ordained will and God's permissive will. However, you must have learned of this later, along with the good God is able to bring out of evil and tragedy.

Naw, unlike Sr. Mary Butch who would hit small children with a big wooden ruler for minor infractions, I could actually control my impulses. Lucky for her. At that point, I'd been in the military for a few years and was kind of buffed out.

Ignorance is not offensive. It's merely ignorant. Here is what I read, "I was making my teachers' lives miserable long before my parents got sick."

Not sure how a 10 year old could make Sister Mary Butch miserable, other than reminding her of what they could never have. These old lesbians hated children because they joined the Holy Orders to tamp down their "sinful" desires. The best thing that ever happened it became cool to be a lesbian, and these women didn't have to go into this insane lifestyle.

Essentially, you chose to block and to reject anything and everything of the philosophy the Church was offering to teach you.

Hey, the only thing I was able to block was some pervo priest hitting on me. My parish had two guys they defrocked for being perverts.

Your last line: No wonder you never got Catholicism/faith. That's upside down and backwards, the very opposite of what God calls us to. Sorry you missed it.

As for the way you see yourself. The Little Prince has some enlightening words about that: "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."

I got it just fine. It's a corrupt organization that was about scamming money out of less smart people. That's why your Commie Pope Francis lives in a big palace.

You don't get it. All the world gets from any person or any group is misery. It pleases you to acknowledge this about Catholicism, and to ignore and give this a pass to all others. As Genesis acknowledges, we are not perfect beings, we are flawed, defective, incomplete--and all this we bring to the world. We also bring goodness, everyone--but continue to close your eyes, stuff your ears when any of this goodness comes through Catholics and the Catholic faith. If being short-sighted soothes your wounds, others can commiserate with enduring painful wounds.

The Catholic Church never did anything good in history, not once, not even by accident.

 

[kjw47]

Too many to name.

Examples of Perceived Contradictions:

• The Death of Judas: Matthew 27:5 states Judas hanged himself, while Acts 1:18 claims he died by falling headlong and bursting open.
• Who Carried Jesus' Cross: John 19:17 says Jesus carried his own cross, while Mark 15:21-23 indicates Simon of Cyrene carried it.
• The Sabbath: Exodus 20:8 emphasizes keeping the Sabbath holy, while Romans 14:5 suggests individuals can choose to value any day.
• Seeing God: Genesis 32:30 states Jacob saw God face to face, while John 1:18 says no one has seen God at any time.

Jacob didn't see the being of God, he saw Gods representative, an angel appearing as a man.
There is 0 proof it was a cross. In fact scientist say if it was it would have weighed over 500 pounds--Jesus could not carry that weight. Plus Simon took over after Jesus stumbled so both had carried the pole.
The laws at Exodus were done away with the new covenant Jesus brought.
Acts 1:18 does not mention he died like that, thus was already dead and probably fell on something that made him burst while cut down.

 

[Freedomisneverfree]

 

[alang1216]

Jacob didn't see the being of God, he saw Gods representative, an angel appearing as a man.

Those are not the words from the Bible. Do you have a version I have not seen or did you write your own?

 

[Cougarbear]

Events that violate natural laws:

• Noah's flood
• Stopping the sun/earth
• creating galaxies millions of light years from earth but having their light already visible on earth.

It violates what you believe is natural when they are completely natural to the most intelligent being in the universe that created and organized it. Why do you suppose you are the most intelligent being in the universe. Your pride is really bad. Moving particles around is quite natural to the Godhead.

 

[Cougarbear]

Sad you never can agree with a truth i post, instead in your false reasoning twist it.

Why would I agree with what I know to be false? I'm using logic and reasoning every step of the way.

 

[kjw47]

Those are not the words from the Bible. Do you have a version I have not seen or did you write your own?

Verse 24 says a man Jacob grappled with)= an angel appearing the flesh, representing the true God. Every bible scholar knows it was an angel, not actually God, because--no man has ever seen God.

 

[JoeB131]

So you think there are no higher forms of life than that on the earth? I see that as arrogance. Either way at the very least God is a character in a story book written by men to educate children. True? 'In the beginning' amounts to 'once upon a time'. So, with that in mind, what do you think they were teaching their own Jewish children?

Superstition or the reality of cause and effect which is what Mosaic Law amounts to? Example; if you fill your mind with irrational nonsense and "just believe" without RUMINATING you will lose your sanity. This is the essense of Kosher law. The ignorant and superstitious "just believe" the subject of kosher law is about food.

Once Caesar conferred power and authority to the papacy, in 325 ce, and the Pope claimed to be the infallible authority on scripture Christianity became a superstitious tomb full of deceit corruption and dead mens bones.

I don't believe in magic fairies in the sky. Is it likely there is intelligent life in other places in the universe? Possible.

The reason why Constantine picked Christianity as the Empire's religion is that he felt it was the most easily adaptable as a unifying faith that encouraged obedience.

The Papacy didn't really start with Constantine or the Empire. In the early church, the bishops of Rome, Constantinople, Antioch and Alexandria were equal in authority. The other problem with Christianity is that by the fourth century, a lot of variations appeared in different locations- Arianism, Monophysitism, Gnosticism. For the Church to be the tool Constantine wanted it to be, they had to standardize the faith.

I agree that those who not take the time and trouble to understand what is being taught in the Bible about the realities of life on earth where many 'people' are more like brute beasts, wild animals, or knuckle dragging barbarians than human beings, are superstitious clowns and con artists preying on the weak and gullible.

Not sure what your point is. People advance beyond religion.

Do you believe in satan? No? Is that just ignorance and superstition too? Even though the types of people you just described responsible for "Inquisitions, crusades, witch-burnings, collaboration with Nazis. Collaborating with Trump." are the epitome demons or the mythological character Satan (the enemy). I don't understand how anyone can't believe in satan as a plague of demons are brazenly running amok worldwide right now. It doesn't take a genius to make the connection between what is written and what is actually happening right now in reality.

No, I don't believe in Satan. I don't blame him for Hitler or Trump, I blame people for that, not being able to get over their own biases.

 

[alang1216]

Verse 24 says a man Jacob grappled with)= an angel appearing the flesh, representing the true God. Every bible scholar knows it was an angel, not actually God, because--no man has ever seen God.

You're rewriting the bible to fit your notions of what it should say and ignore what it does say. You say no man has ever seen God but that is exactly the claim that Jacob makes.

 

[theHawk]

Too many to name.

Examples of Perceived Contradictions:

• The Death of Judas: Matthew 27:5 states Judas hanged himself, while Acts 1:18 claims he died by falling headlong and bursting open.
• Who Carried Jesus' Cross: John 19:17 says Jesus carried his own cross, while Mark 15:21-23 indicates Simon of Cyrene carried it.
• The Sabbath: Exodus 20:8 emphasizes keeping the Sabbath holy, while Romans 14:5 suggests individuals can choose to value any day.
• Seeing God: Genesis 32:30 states Jacob saw God face to face, while John 1:18 says no one has seen God at any time.

Judas hung himself, then his body fell from the tree and it burst open. Neither line says exactly when he died, but we can surmise he died from hanging, and later his body fell and broke open.

No contradiction. Both are true.

Jesus carried his own cross, then when he fell Simon helped him carry it. Everyone knows this.

Romans14:5 is talking about fasting, not the sabbath.

Jacob did see the face or God, when he had taken a human/angel form. Several others in the OT also saw the Angel of the Lord (God), like Gideon.

John is talking about seeing the full glory of God the Father. He is talking about a general rule about man not being able to see the full glory of God, but there are exceptions.

So far you are 0-4 for “contradictions”.

 

[theHawk]

I don't believe in magic fairies in the sky. Is it likely there is intelligent life in other places in the universe? Possible

You say you don’t believe in magic fairies in the sky, then immediately claim that life has been created on other worlds from magic fairies.

 

[JohnDB]

Jesus carried his own cross, then when he fell Simon helped him carry it. Everyone knows this.

Simon was from Cyrene....
And the location was at the intersection of the Spice Market.

Meaning likely Simon sold Silphum, an abortifacient and ED cure.

 

[Cougarbear]

Verse 24 says a man Jacob grappled with)= an angel appearing the flesh, representing the true God. Every bible scholar knows it was an angel, not actually God, because--no man has ever seen God.

Actually, thousands have seen the God of Israel, Jesus Christ (Jehovah) He was alive for 33 years. So, of course we've seen our Lord God. And, others have seen Father God as well including Joseph Smith when the Father and Son visited him in the Sacred Grove in New York. The Father said, "This is my beloved Son, hear ye him." Other prophets like Moses and others did also. I'm sorry you aren't getting this favoritism.

 

[alang1216]

Judas hung himself, then his body fell from the tree and it burst open. Neither line says exactly when he died, but we can surmise he died from hanging, and later his body fell and broke open.

No contradiction. Both are true.

Jesus carried his own cross, then when he fell Simon helped him carry it. Everyone knows this.

Romans14:5 is talking about fasting, not the sabbath.

Jacob did see the face or God, when he had taken a human/angel form. Several others in the OT also saw the Angel of the Lord (God), like Gideon.

John is talking about seeing the full glory of God the Father. He is talking about a general rule about man not being able to see the full glory of God, but there are exceptions.

So far you are 0-4 for “contradictions”.

So you conflate two stories into one since each is incomplete? I suspect you could do the same with the two birth narratives. What you're really doing is writing your own scripture since you feel God left some things out.

 

[Moonglow]

Satan would kill God if he could. But, he can’t. So, he kills babies because he knows it wounds the heart of the Father. It causes chaos on the earth. Abortion is actually the sacrament of Satan. Abortion says you must die so I (Satan) can live. But Christ says I must die so you can live. Christ chooses to enter human history in a uterus of all places to redeem mankind from all their sins. That’s why Satan uses the same holy words, “This is my body,” but with the opposite blasphemous meaning. Do you think it’s a coincidence that the central phrase of the entire abortion industrial complex and culture today are the same words as our Savior, “This is my body?” And, because Planned Parenthood is not only the largest abortion provider in the world, they are also the largest provider of transgender drugs. They call both mutilations, “Healthcare.” What do they call transgender surgeries? “Gender affirming care.” What do they call abortion? “Reproductive care.” They call both, “Healthcare.” If they can’t get the baby in the womb, they will get the baby outside the womb. They defend both practices using bodily autonomy arguments, “This is my body.” It’s not a coincidence that the argument for abortion is quoting the words of our Savior, “This is my body.”

God himself has killed countless babies yet you say nothing about it.

 

[onefour1]

God himself has killed countless babies yet you say nothing about it.

God, as the overseer of this temporary mortal life, decides when we all must end our temporary mortal life in this world to go on to the world of spirits. He also decides when we all will resurrect to inherit immortality through the resurrection of the dead to gain everlasting bodies of flesh and bones. One day you Moonglow will be grateful that you are alive forever more thanks be to God himself.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Grow Up And Stop Justifying Public Policy Based On Pretentious Feelings About Reductio Ad Absurdum "

* Hocus Pocus Corn Ball *

God, as the overseer of this temporary mortal life, decides when we all must end our temporary mortal life in this world to go on to the world of spirits. He also decides when we all will resurrect to inherit immortality through the resurrection of the dead to gain everlasting bodies of flesh and bones. One day you Moonglow will be grateful that you are alive forever more thanks be to God himself.

Stop confusing the literal meaning of an after life with a metaphorical means by which to achieve a literal after life .

A literal meaning of an after life is genetic continuance , where by a requisite sophisticated state an individual , both figuratively and literally as themselves , may have an opportunity to experience sentience , sapience and introspection through life .

A metaphorical means to achieve an after life are the methods and means of principles one applies to achieve genetic continuance in perpetuity .

From antiquity , spirits are aromas , humors , psychological manifestations from physical forms .

 

[hobelim]

The Catholic Church never did anything good in history, not once, not even by accident.

What they do is cripple and paralyze 'believers' and then when they can't deal with reality or don't have what it takes to be a hypocrite they become destitute and the the church gives them soup. Awesome!