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[Donald H]

Incorrect. If the universe is expanding then it must have a beginning.

Yes, our universe is now being considered to be one of many.
And so we can at least think that science will discover that our universe may have had a beginning.

But no closer once again to being able to show that the wider multiverse had a beginning.

The Catholic church once again will need to adjust their beliefs.

They should have just stayed with the flat earth enclosed under the firmament!

None of this problem would have ever existed if modern science had just accepted the young earth story!

 

[Cougarbear]

How old were you when you decided to be heterosexual?

That’s just it. To be heterosexual is natural and we are born with this. Homosexuality is without natural affection meaning one has to choose evil or unnatural use of their body.

 

[Cougarbear]

At one point, mixed-race marriages were considered a "moral sin" and were illegal up until 1969 in some states.

So? Were they immoral with God? At times, God commanded against interracial or interreligious marriages with Israel. Not today.

 

[alang1216]

That’s just it. To be heterosexual is natural and we are born with this. Homosexuality is without natural affection meaning one has to choose evil or unnatural use of their body.

I doubt any psychology professional or gay person would agree. Why would anyone choose to make themselves an outcast?
Again your faith blinds you to reality.

 

[Meriweather]

The Catholic church once again will need to adjust their beliefs.

God is unchanging.

 

[Donald H]

God is unchanging.

That's probably true in an allegorical sense, and that then led to the C.C. needing to accept Darwinian evolution.

The Adam and Eve story can't work in a literally true sense.

 

[Donald H]

God is unchanging.

Something changed in 1996!

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   Wikipedia
   https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Evolution_and_the_Catholic_Church
   

   Evolution and the Catholic Church - Wikipedia​

   • According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, any believer may accept either literal or special creation within the period of an actual six-day, twenty-four-hour period, or they may accept the belief that the earth evolved over time under the guidance of God.
   Overview
   The Catholic Church holds no official position on the theory of creation or evolution, leaving the specifics of either theistic evolution or literal creationism to the individual within certain parameters established … See more
   Early contributions to evolutionary theory
   Catholics' contributions to the development of evolutionary theory included those of the Augustinian friar Gregor Mendel (1822-1884). Mendel entered the Brno Augustinian monastery in 1843, but also trained as a scientist at t… See more
   
   Do Catholics believe in evolution? - U.S. Catholic
   In 1996 Pope John Paul II addressed the issue before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. He sanctioned the acceptance of evolution, but reminded his listeners that spiritual questions like the nature o…
   
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1. 1996

 

[Donald H]

Do Catholics believe in evolution?

The Catechism of the Catholic Church discourages literalism, encouraging believers to recognize the various literary genres found in the Bible.

uscatholic.org

 

[Meriweather]

That's probably true in an allegorical sense, and that then led to the C.C. needing to accept Darwinian evolution.

The Adam and Eve story can't work in a literally true sense.

Something changed in 1996!

I'll repeat this for the last time, as I have said this before. My grandmother, at a Catholic nursing school, was taught by Catholic nuns about evolution in the early 1900s. In 1950 Pope Pius XII wrote confirming there was no intrinsic conflict between creation and the theory of evolution. I was taught evolution, by nuns, at a Catholic school in the 1960s. The Catholic Church NEVER had a stand against evolution.

So what if the story of Adam and Eve doesn't work for you. You are not Catholic and it doesn't need to work for you.

 

[Donald H]

I'll repeat this for the last time, as I have said this before. My grandmother, at a Catholic nursing school, was taught by Catholic nuns about evolution in the early 1900s. In 1950 Pope Pius XII wrote confirming there was no intrinsic conflict between creation and the theory of evolution. I was taught evolution, by nuns, at a Catholic school in the 1960s. The Catholic Church NEVER had a stand against evolution.

So what if the story of Adam and Eve doesn't work for you. You are not Catholic and it doesn't need to work for you.

The change to accepting evolution took place. When? Certainly not before the 20th. century! It's not me that has offered 1996 as the specific year!

 

[Donald H]

Some time in the past, and after the turn to the 20th. century, Catholics were given the comfort of dumping the Adam and Eve story, and replacing it with their belief in evolution!

Change! A more liberal and understanding god became the revised interpretation of the bibles.

Some chose to stay with the Adam and Eve story. Those Catholics are no longer the majority!

 

[kjw47]

The usual response ignoring the verse 1:8 and putting something else in that has nothing to do with 1:8

And you ignoring Gods truth to believe error.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Puritanical Taunted By Prurient With Poster Children Of Forsaken Oaths "

* What Ever You Do To The Least Of Others - See Percentage Incidence Tables *

That’s just it. To be heterosexual is natural and we are born with this. Homosexuality is without natural affection meaning one has to choose evil or unnatural use of their body.

Are you satisfied with elective abortion , when pre-implementation diagnosis indicates an intersex offspring will be born ?

Genetic diagnosis of intersex - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Intersex people are born with natural variations in physical and sex characteristics including those of the chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, or genitals that, according to the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights, "do not fit the typical definitions for male or female bodies".[1][2] Such variations may involve genital ambiguity, and combinations of chromosomal genotype and sexual phenotype other than XY-male and XX-female.[3][4] Preimplantation genetic diagnosis allows the elimination of embryos and fetuses with intersex traits and thus has an impact on discrimination against intersex people.

Intersex - Wikipedia , Sex chromosome anomalies - Wikipedia ,
Disorders of sex development - Wikipedia , Gender dysphoria - Wikipedia ,

 

[JoeB131]

So? Were they immoral with God? At times, God commanded against interracial or interreligious marriages with Israel. Not today.

Actually, the people who passed these laws DID cite God at the reason.


Bazile denied the motion with the words:

Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.

 

[JoeB131]

I'll repeat this for the last time, as I have said this before. My grandmother, at a Catholic nursing school, was taught by Catholic nuns about evolution in the early 1900s. In 1950 Pope Pius XII wrote confirming there was no intrinsic conflict between creation and the theory of evolution. I was taught evolution, by nuns, at a Catholic school in the 1960s. The Catholic Church NEVER had a stand against evolution.

So what if the story of Adam and Eve doesn't work for you. You are not Catholic and it doesn't need to work for you.

Well, funny thing. I was taught by the Frustrated Lesbians in the 1970's, and they tried to claim both Genesis and Evolution were true. One of the Nuns even blurted out that maybe Adam and Eve were apes.

Now, by the time I got to High School, the Christian Brothers (when they weren't be "reassigned" after some impropriety) actually admitted that Adam and Eve was a myth. But that just opened a whole new slew of problems for Little Joey who was already starting to suspect they were all full of shyte.

Obviously, evolution and Genesis are contradictory.

Christianity- God created man from Clay and woman from Man's rib, perfect in his image. ( I won't go into the fact that Genesis tells it two different ways, once where they were created at the same time and the other separately.) Adam and Eve Trangressed by eating from the Fruit of the Tree that sat right in the middle of the garden because a talking snake (yes, a talking snake) told them to.

Evolution: Man evolved through a series of improved forms through a process of Natural Selection and Adaptive Radiation, where features such as larger brains, opposable thumbs, and walking upright gave them an evolutionary advantage over lower primates.


THESE TWO STORIES DO NOT MATCH UP.

 

[JoeB131]

God is unchanging.

Except when he changes his mind on Slavery. Or Witches.

 

[Trickster]

Like I said, Christians know that the bibles aren't literally true.
More modern Christians attempt to make it out to be allegory.

I have no argument against it being allegory if it can make sense to interpret it that way.

Stories such as the great flood don't seem to have even that! Does it?

All sensible people know by now that it can't be a true story

That just means they are guilty of evading reality and holding on to their beliefs they know are untrue and rationalizing it as "allegory".

Of course, that also ignores that it was always meant to be seen as - and never seen as ayhthing but -God's words meant to be taken literally because not doing so is heresy. Also, why would an all-knowing entity not just speak clearly instead of using pretentiously silly metaphores? "When I said stone the fornicator I did not, like, meam literally stone her and stuff... It was... Like... Figurative."

Just admit it is bs and move on with your life.

 

[Trickster]

Christian dies and is stopped at Heaven's gate:
- "Stop! May I see your ID?"
[Hands over ID as receptionist types away on their Mac]

• "I see here you've been going to church every Sunday since birth."
• " Oh yes. I've always tried my best to be a good Christian, sir."
• "I hate to break it to you, but I cannot let you in."
• "W-w'wait... What? May I speak to your manag... Oh. Right."
• "When God said every Sunday he did not literally meam EVERY Sunday. What are you stupid? It's just allegory. Also, it says in your records you are not gay and you have to be gay to get in."
• "B-b-but...."
• "The homophobia is allegorical. Duuuuh."

 

[Trickster]

Except when he changes his mind on Slavery. Or Witches.

Or on who the real prophet is. Or on the right denomination... or on polygamy or on door knocking. Or on...

Yeah, y'all get the point.

 

[ding]

" Hue Mammon Misgivings Against Provisions From Goad "

* Accepting Conditions Of Reality *

Perhaps you are disappointed in what a purported goad is or would actually be willing to provide .

What would pleadings for relief from mortality mean to an immortal , as if such a thing as mortality could be understand by an immortal ?

The success criteria of nature is survival and the literal meaning of an after life is genetic continuance , as a sophisticated physical state is required for sentience , sapience and introspection that is afforded as life .

" Life isn't fair . Expect to make sacrifices . "

Why would I be disappointed? Unlike you, I understand that life is effectively a crucible and that it serves to purify us. So no need to plead for relief at all. We should embrace our suffering as suffering is the purest expression of God's love for us as it brings us closer to Christ.

The success or failure of life is in how we respond to suffering. We aren't human beings experiencing a spiritual existence. We are spiritual beings experiencing a human existence. The flesh is of no avail.