ABC GOP Debate: Governors Shine; Trump, Rubio Get Their Asses Handed To Them By Real Public Servants

[Super_Lantern]

Nah Trump won the exchange between him and Jeb on eminent domain. Trump did a great job explaining how keystone pipeline won't work without it. Jeb made good complaints against it but offered no alternative.

Well that depends on whether or not you want the Keystone oil spills going into your public drinking water in your town, how you receive who "won" or "lost" that point.

Some people are alarmed that if eminent domain can be used there, why not also for fracking? After all, Trump's reasoning was that if a private enterprise promises jobs, the POTUS can swipe his pen and eradicate private homes (and it follows, their drinking water sources). What else will he declare is in the interest of private industry with a quasi-public application? My home? Yours?

Some folks find that a little scary. That's BigGovernment if I've ever seen it.. There's a big war brewing in the West about exactly the question of government interests overstepping onto private claims or holdings, easements; or hadn't you heard?

It is big government. I gave the win to Trump in his altercation with Jeb over this because I felt Trump was really honest and upfront explaining the keystone pipeline wouldn't work with out it. I like your post and agree with what you're saying, but I feel Jeb gave the easy response ("Eminent domain is bad and too big government") while Trump gave a hard truth; conservatives cared quite a bit about the keystone pipeline and that would have required something they dislike, eminent domain. Jeb could have have offered up a different solution but didn't seem to unless I missed it

 

[OKTexas]

All the polls are saying Trump and Cruz won it.

You have failed

Now now, he's entitled to his opinion.

 

[OKTexas]

Nah Trump won the exchange between him and Jeb on eminent domain. Trump did a great job explaining how keystone pipeline won't work without it. Jeb made good complaints against it but offered no alternative.

Well that depends on whether or not you want the Keystone oil spills going into your public drinking water in your town, how you receive who "won" or "lost" that point.

Some people are alarmed that if eminent domain can be used there, why not also for fracking? After all, Trump's reasoning was that if a private enterprise promises jobs, the POTUS can swipe his pen and eradicate private homes (and it follows, their drinking water sources). What else will he declare is in the interest of private industry with a quasi-public application? My home? Yours?

Some folks find that a little scary. That's BigGovernment if I've ever seen it.. There's a big war brewing in the West about exactly the question of government interests overstepping onto private claims or holdings, easements; or hadn't you heard?

BS the feds have no eminent domain rights in any State.

 

[Silhouette]

BS the feds have no eminent domain rights in any State.

Get real. Yes they do. If the military wanted part of your state as "vital to defense" you'd have to kiss that piece of land goodbye so fast it would make your head spin..

 

[OKTexas]

BS the feds have no eminent domain rights in any State.

Get real. Yes they do. If the military wanted part of your state as "vital to defense" you'd have to kiss that piece of land goodbye so fast it would make your head spin..

That might well be, of course that is actually a constitutional federal use of State land. But the State would have to exercise their eminent domain and the State legislature would have to approve the sale to the feds.

From article 1, section 8 clause 17:
My bold.
and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be

Why do you think all the interstate highway rights of way are owned by the States?

 

[peach174]

All the polls are saying Trump and Cruz won it.

You have failed

The caucus in New Hampshire hasn't happened yet. Polls can be purposefully misleading. I suppose next you'll tell us that Rubio shined last night? *wait for it!...*

New Hampshire is voting for the primary, not a caucus.

 

[BluesLegend]

Nah Trump won the exchange between him and Jeb on eminent domain. Trump did a great job explaining how keystone pipeline won't work without it. Jeb made good complaints against it but offered no alternative.

Well that depends on whether or not you want the Keystone oil spills going into your public drinking water in your town, how you receive who "won" or "lost" that point.

Some people are alarmed that if eminent domain can be used there, why not also for fracking? After all, Trump's reasoning was that if a private enterprise promises jobs, the POTUS can swipe his pen and eradicate private homes (and it follows, their drinking water sources). What else will he declare is in the interest of private industry with a quasi-public application? My home? Yours?

Some folks find that a little scary. That's BigGovernment if I've ever seen it.. There's a big war brewing in the West about exactly the question of government interests overstepping onto private claims or holdings, easements; or hadn't you heard?

It is big government. I gave the win to Trump in his altercation with Jeb over this because I felt Trump was really honest and upfront explaining the keystone pipeline wouldn't work with out it. I like your post and agree with what you're saying, but I feel Jeb gave the easy response ("Eminent domain is bad and too big government") while Trump gave a hard truth; conservatives cared quite a bit about the keystone pipeline and that would have required something they dislike, eminent domain. Jeb could have have offered up a different solution but didn't seem to unless I missed it

Just another example of Jeb being a retard and dishonest. I doubt the fool has ever been to the states where the pipeline would be built its wide open spaces out there the pipeline isn't going through the middle of a residential neighborhood. God Jeb reminds me of Obama.

 

[Silhouette]

That might well be, of course that is actually a constitutional federal use of State land. But the State would have to exercise their eminent domain and the State legislature would have to approve the sale to the feds. From article 1, section 8 clause 17 My bold. and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be

As a formality I suppose, yes..

 

[Silhouette]

Just another example of Jeb being a retard and dishonest. I doubt the fool has ever been to the states where the pipeline would be built its wide open spaces out there the pipeline isn't going through the middle of a residential neighborhood. God Jeb reminds me of Obama.

The objections to the Keystone Pipeline aren't about aesthetics or empty lands. It's about inevitable spills and groundwater/environmental pollution. Also, why the hell do we have to have refineries only in Texas? For domestic use of petroleum, why does the crude have to be sent clear the hell across the US? Oh, wait...so we can more easily sell (ship it from the Gulf Coast) it to other countries. And by "we" I mean "the oil companies who rule our lives...and environment...and eminent domain (you watch, Trump would do it)"

 

[Claudette]

All the polls are saying Trump and Cruz won it.

You have failed

I watched part of it and the "professional politicians" sounded pretty lame.

 

[TNHarley]

If repubs are so against eminent domain why are they for xl pipeline, which needs ED to be built .

You said something that makes SENSE. Way to go!

 

[BluesLegend]

Just another example of Jeb being a retard and dishonest. I doubt the fool has ever been to the states where the pipeline would be built its wide open spaces out there the pipeline isn't going through the middle of a residential neighborhood. God Jeb reminds me of Obama.

The objections to the Keystone Pipeline aren't about aesthetics or empty lands. It's about inevitable spills and groundwater/environmental pollution. Also, why the hell do we have to have refineries only in Texas? For domestic use of petroleum, why does the crude have to be sent clear the hell across the US? Oh, wait...so we can more easily sell (ship it from the Gulf Coast) it to other countries. And by "we" I mean "the oil companies who rule our lives...and environment...and eminent domain (you watch, Trump would do it)"

Ah I see that you are a big oil hating liberal, got it. /eyeroll

 

[Silhouette]

Just another example of Jeb being a retard and dishonest. I doubt the fool has ever been to the states where the pipeline would be built its wide open spaces out there the pipeline isn't going through the middle of a residential neighborhood. God Jeb reminds me of Obama.

The objections to the Keystone Pipeline aren't about aesthetics or empty lands. It's about inevitable spills and groundwater/environmental pollution. Also, why the hell do we have to have refineries only in Texas? For domestic use of petroleum, why does the crude have to be sent clear the hell across the US? Oh, wait...so we can more easily sell (ship it from the Gulf Coast) it to other countries. And by "we" I mean "the oil companies who rule our lives...and environment...and eminent domain (you watch, Trump would do it)"

Ah I see that you are a big oil hating liberal, got it. /eyeroll

How many "liberals" do you know who want to make gay marriage illegal in all 50 state because of how it strips children of either a father or mother for life?

Yeah, quite a lot of the middle square pegs don't fit in your round hole pal..

 

[BluesLegend]

Just another example of Jeb being a retard and dishonest. I doubt the fool has ever been to the states where the pipeline would be built its wide open spaces out there the pipeline isn't going through the middle of a residential neighborhood. God Jeb reminds me of Obama.

The objections to the Keystone Pipeline aren't about aesthetics or empty lands. It's about inevitable spills and groundwater/environmental pollution. Also, why the hell do we have to have refineries only in Texas? For domestic use of petroleum, why does the crude have to be sent clear the hell across the US? Oh, wait...so we can more easily sell (ship it from the Gulf Coast) it to other countries. And by "we" I mean "the oil companies who rule our lives...and environment...and eminent domain (you watch, Trump would do it)"

Ah I see that you are a big oil hating liberal, got it. /eyeroll

How many "liberals" do you know who want to make gay marriage illegal in all 50 state because of how it strips children of either a father or mother for life?

Yeah, quite a lot of the middle square pegs don't fit in your round hole pal..

Feel free to start a thread on gay marriage to vent your anger, we were discussing the oil pipeline. Its kind of weird that you jump from oil pipeline to gay marriage that's like way out in left field.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just another example of Jeb being a retard and dishonest. I doubt the fool has ever been to the states where the pipeline would be built its wide open spaces out there the pipeline isn't going through the middle of a residential neighborhood. God Jeb reminds me of Obama.

The objections to the Keystone Pipeline aren't about aesthetics or empty lands. It's about inevitable spills and groundwater/environmental pollution. Also, why the hell do we have to have refineries only in Texas? For domestic use of petroleum, why does the crude have to be sent clear the hell across the US? Oh, wait...so we can more easily sell (ship it from the Gulf Coast) it to other countries. And by "we" I mean "the oil companies who rule our lives...and environment...and eminent domain (you watch, Trump would do it)"

The oil will move by pipe or by train. And guess who owns the trains that carry the oil? If you guessed Buffet, then you guessed correctly.

So do you suppose the oil would be transported safer by pipes or by train cars?

 

[Missourian]

Keystone is dead .. Trump bringing it up was a pointless example.

Him using ED to grab an old ladys house for a parking lot for limo's next to his casino ... priceless.

A private citizen can't employ eminent domain, only the government can do that.

 

[BluesLegend]

Just another example of Jeb being a retard and dishonest. I doubt the fool has ever been to the states where the pipeline would be built its wide open spaces out there the pipeline isn't going through the middle of a residential neighborhood. God Jeb reminds me of Obama.

The objections to the Keystone Pipeline aren't about aesthetics or empty lands. It's about inevitable spills and groundwater/environmental pollution. Also, why the hell do we have to have refineries only in Texas? For domestic use of petroleum, why does the crude have to be sent clear the hell across the US? Oh, wait...so we can more easily sell (ship it from the Gulf Coast) it to other countries. And by "we" I mean "the oil companies who rule our lives...and environment...and eminent domain (you watch, Trump would do it)"

The oil will move by pipe or by train. And guess who owns the trains that carry the oil? If you guessed Buffet, then you guessed correctly.

So do you suppose the oil would be transported safer by pipes or by train cars?

No amount of facts and logic will penetrate the 4 inches of neanderthal skull bone on most of these libs drones.

 

[eddiew]

Keystone is dead .. Trump bringing it up was a pointless example.

Him using ED to grab an old ladys house for a parking lot for limo's next to his casino ... priceless.

A private citizen can't employ eminent domain, only the government can do that.

How did bush steal the texas baseball stadium.....guess it's not what you know it's who you know

 

[Silhouette]

The oil will move by pipe or by train. And guess who owns the trains that carry the oil? If you guessed Buffet, then you guessed correctly.

So do you suppose the oil would be transported safer by pipes or by train cars?

Why not just refine it in Canada? Then gas can be sold by truck.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The oil will move by pipe or by train. And guess who owns the trains that carry the oil? If you guessed Buffet, then you guessed correctly.

So do you suppose the oil would be transported safer by pipes or by train cars?

Why not just refine it in Canada? Then gas can be sold by truck.

Oh yes, transporting gasoline by tanker trucks on the highway; safer yet.