Abbas suggests Obama promised 67 lines - E. Jerusalem

[montelatici]

Correct. Jordan and Egypt.

Muslim Arabs were a large minority in Jerusalem during the Latin Kingdom and may have been equal in number to the Christian Arabs in the Kingdom overall. So claiming that the Muslim Arabs are newcomers to Palestine is just silly.

"The majority of the kingdom's inhabitants were native Christians, especially Greek and Syrian Orthodox, as well as Sunni and Shi'a Muslims. There were also a small number of Jews and Samaritans. The native Christians and Muslims, who were a marginalized lower class, tended to speak Greek and Arabic, while the crusaders spoke Latin, French, and other Western European languages."

Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE



Keep trying, and while you are at it look to the meaning of minority. The largest minority at that time in Jerusalem was the Jews followed by the muslims and lastly the arab Christians. The majority were Roman Catholics from Europe, the Crusaders as they were called, and Pilgrims from Europe. This is were Mohamed got his idea for the hajj from the many Christian pilgrims entering the Holy Land to visit the scenes of many of Jesus's miracles and to walk were he walked.

There were no Jews in Jerusalem after the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem and in any case were a small minority living in a "ghetto" (the word would not be invented until centuries later in Venice) before they were "eliminated" along with the Muslims. The largest group, the local Christian Arabs were of course spared.

You really need to read up on your history. By the way, notice the source for the information below.

"The city was captured on July 15, 1099 with Godfrey entering it through the Jewish quarter, where inhabitants defended themselves alongside their Muslim neighbors, finally seeking refuge in the synagogues, which were set on fire by the attackers. A terrible massacre ensued; the survivors were sold as slaves, some being later redeemed by Jewish communities in Italy. The Jewish community of Jerusalem came to an end and was not reconstituted for many years...."

 

[montelatici]

Muslim Arabs were a large minority in Jerusalem during the Latin Kingdom and may have been equal in number to the Christian Arabs in the Kingdom overall. So claiming that the Muslim Arabs are newcomers to Palestine is just silly.

"The majority of the kingdom's inhabitants were native Christians, especially Greek and Syrian Orthodox, as well as Sunni and Shi'a Muslims. There were also a small number of Jews and Samaritans. The native Christians and Muslims, who were a marginalized lower class, tended to speak Greek and Arabic, while the crusaders spoke Latin, French, and other Western European languages."

Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Baloney. The land was part of the Ottoman Empire for the last 600 years. The Arabs didn't own jack. The Ottoman Empire was divided into many Muslim shitholes and one Jewish state. Greedy savage Arabs didn't want any of it, and we are where we are today. Jerusalem will always be the eternal capital of the Jewish state. Arabs can have Mecca and Medina, another city Arabs massacred Jews and committed ethnic cleansing.

Now tell us again, how did Arabs become victorious in 1967? Ha ha.

Arabs victorious in 1967, what????

Making up shit I see. There was no Jewish state and hardly any Jews in Palestine from the Roman/Byzantine era through the Ottoman rule.

As far as Arabs being victorious in 1967, I don't know what you are talking about.

 

[MrMax]

Obama promised them the '67 borders of Jordan, they should go there quickly, Israel would probably support the action.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.

montelatici, et al,

I think there is a misunderstanding as to the meaning and intention of the descriptor: "Palestinian."

The resolutions of the Jerusalem Congress were:

• Palestine should be part of Arab Syria
• Rejection of French proposals for the area
• No foreign influence
• All foreign treaties referring to the area were voided
• To maintain friendly relations with Britain and the Allied powers, accepting help if it did not affect the country's independence

The original Arab Palestinian that you are referring to thought of themselves as part of the Ottoman State of Syria, which was not unreasonable. This is exactly how the Ottoman Empire thought of the territory. (I mentioned this before, in our talks a to why the Treaty of Lausanne never mentions "Palestine." But it did not make an impression.)

I have been on many political forums that discuss this issue, and this one has to have the least knowledgeable and most biased (pro-Israel) posters. Possibly because it is the only American-only forum I frequent.

The Palestinians (Muslim and Christians) thought of themselves as Palestinians centuries ago. More recently, and well before the 1960s, Palestinians held congresses throughout Palestine. The first Palestine Arab Congress met from 27 January to 10 February 1919, with 27 delegates from Muslim-Christian societies across Palestine.

I have no clue where you bozos get the idea that Palestinians weren't Palestinians until the 1960s. Israeli propaganda maybe?

Palestine Arab Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(COMMENT)

Using your source (supra), you will no doubt note that it says: "The Congress rejected political Zionism, agreeing to accept British assistance if it did not impinge on Arab sovereignty in Palestine. Palestine was envisaged as part of an independent Syrian state, governed by Faisal of the Hashemite family."

While the Palestine Arab Congress attempted to establish a firm political base, it was not interested in a Palestinian Government; but rather, a Hashemite Government (similar to that of Trans-Jordan).

Most Respectfully,
R

The resolutions of the Jerusalem Congress were:

• Palestine should be part of Arab Syria
• Rejection of French proposals for the area
• No foreign influence
• All foreign treaties referring to the area were voided
• To maintain friendly relations with Britain and the Allied powers, accepting help if it did not affect the country's independence

They may have had a different vision for the future but they did firmly reject illegal foreign interference.

As did the Palestinians in general.

(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

Baloney. The land was part of the Ottoman Empire for the last 600 years. The Arabs didn't own jack. The Ottoman Empire was divided into many Muslim shitholes and one Jewish state. Greedy savage Arabs didn't want any of it, and we are where we are today. Jerusalem will always be the eternal capital of the Jewish state. Arabs can have Mecca and Medina, another city Arabs massacred Jews and committed ethnic cleansing.

Now tell us again, how did Arabs become victorious in 1967? Ha ha.

Arabs victorious in 1967, what????

Making up shit I see. There was no Jewish state and hardly any Jews in Palestine from the Roman/Byzantine era through the Ottoman rule.

As far as Arabs being victorious in 1967, I don't know what you are talking about.

Lol what?? Not very good at reading comprehension I see???

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.

montelatici, et al,

I think there is a misunderstanding as to the meaning and intention of the descriptor: "Palestinian."

The resolutions of the Jerusalem Congress were:

• Palestine should be part of Arab Syria
• Rejection of French proposals for the area
• No foreign influence
• All foreign treaties referring to the area were voided
• To maintain friendly relations with Britain and the Allied powers, accepting help if it did not affect the country's independence

The original Arab Palestinian that you are referring to thought of themselves as part of the Ottoman State of Syria, which was not unreasonable. This is exactly how the Ottoman Empire thought of the territory. (I mentioned this before, in our talks a to why the Treaty of Lausanne never mentions "Palestine." But it did not make an impression.)


(COMMENT)

Using your source (supra), you will no doubt note that it says: "The Congress rejected political Zionism, agreeing to accept British assistance if it did not impinge on Arab sovereignty in Palestine. Palestine was envisaged as part of an independent Syrian state, governed by Faisal of the Hashemite family."

While the Palestine Arab Congress attempted to establish a firm political base, it was not interested in a Palestinian Government; but rather, a Hashemite Government (similar to that of Trans-Jordan).

Most Respectfully,
R

The resolutions of the Jerusalem Congress were:

• Palestine should be part of Arab Syria
• Rejection of French proposals for the area
• No foreign influence
• All foreign treaties referring to the area were voided
• To maintain friendly relations with Britain and the Allied powers, accepting help if it did not affect the country's independence

They may have had a different vision for the future but they did firmly reject illegal foreign interference.

As did the Palestinians in general.

(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, Tinmore's position on Palestine is that it has been under occupation for 90 years, which means he consider that the British Mandate was a form of occupation.

 

[montelatici]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.

montelatici, et al,

I think there is a misunderstanding as to the meaning and intention of the descriptor: "Palestinian."

The resolutions of the Jerusalem Congress were:

• Palestine should be part of Arab Syria
• Rejection of French proposals for the area
• No foreign influence
• All foreign treaties referring to the area were voided
• To maintain friendly relations with Britain and the Allied powers, accepting help if it did not affect the country's independence

The original Arab Palestinian that you are referring to thought of themselves as part of the Ottoman State of Syria, which was not unreasonable. This is exactly how the Ottoman Empire thought of the territory. (I mentioned this before, in our talks a to why the Treaty of Lausanne never mentions "Palestine." But it did not make an impression.)


(COMMENT)

Using your source (supra), you will no doubt note that it says: "The Congress rejected political Zionism, agreeing to accept British assistance if it did not impinge on Arab sovereignty in Palestine. Palestine was envisaged as part of an independent Syrian state, governed by Faisal of the Hashemite family."

While the Palestine Arab Congress attempted to establish a firm political base, it was not interested in a Palestinian Government; but rather, a Hashemite Government (similar to that of Trans-Jordan).

Most Respectfully,
R

The resolutions of the Jerusalem Congress were:

• Palestine should be part of Arab Syria
• Rejection of French proposals for the area
• No foreign influence
• All foreign treaties referring to the area were voided
• To maintain friendly relations with Britain and the Allied powers, accepting help if it did not affect the country's independence

They may have had a different vision for the future but they did firmly reject illegal foreign interference.

As did the Palestinians in general.

(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.

They may have had a different vision for the future but they did firmly reject illegal foreign interference.

As did the Palestinians in general.

(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

Lol at calling Rocck racist!!!!
Tell us , who is he racist against, and what did he say that would get him booted??
What did he say that you disagree with??

Even when Rocco posts politely, you insult him, which shows you can't handle the truth.

 

[montelatici]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.


(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

Lol at calling Rocck racist!!!!
Tell us , who is he racist against, and what did he say that would get him booted??
What did he say that you disagree with??

Even when Rocco posts politely, you insult him, which shows you can't handle the truth.

Claiming that Arab Palestinians were unable to determine what they were adds to the myth that the indigenous people were uncivilized savages. This not only untrue, it is a typical racist ploy. Europeans used this same ploy to rationalize the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the native americans.

 

[toastman]

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

Lol at calling Rocck racist!!!!
Tell us , who is he racist against, and what did he say that would get him booted??
What did he say that you disagree with??

Even when Rocco posts politely, you insult him, which shows you can't handle the truth.

Claiming that Arab Palestinians were unable to determine what they were adds to the myth that the indigenous people were uncivilized savages. This not only untrue, it is a typical racist ploy. Europeans used this same ploy to rationalize the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the native americans.

That's the way YOU interpreted it. All he said was they couldn't determine if they were Syrian or not.

 

[RoccoR]

toastman, et al,

Yes, this is a commonly held view by several factions of Palestinian.

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.

They may have had a different vision for the future but they did firmly reject illegal foreign interference.

As did the Palestinians in general.

(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

Rocco, Tinmore's position on Palestine is that it has been under occupation for 90 years, which means he consider that the British Mandate was a form of occupation.

(COMMENT)

The Mandate is derivative authority under Article 22 of the League of Nations Covenant. It is a tool used by the Allied Powers to give form to the Covenant.

Clearly, the character and moral turpitude we see today indicates that the Allied Powers were correct in the original assessment. The stage of the development of the people we see today demonstrates how under developed the Arab Palestinian was then, and how much worse it would have been if they had been immediately given recognized and independence.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I don't believe that I mentioned "race."

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.

They may have had a different vision for the future but they did firmly reject illegal foreign interference.

As did the Palestinians in general.

(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

(COMMENT)

No, looking back, I don't believe I pulled the "race card."

• I believe I mentioned the capacity to make that determination, based on the Syke-Picot Agreement (1916) which trumps the wishes of the enemy population in the Ottoman Empire.
  
• I believe that Article 22, of the League of Nations Covenant, indicated that they were not yet able to stand alone; needing a measure of advice and assistance. The Mandate signified a transition from military occupation to civil administration.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

Muslim Arabs were a large minority in Jerusalem during the Latin Kingdom and may have been equal in number to the Christian Arabs in the Kingdom overall. So claiming that the Muslim Arabs are newcomers to Palestine is just silly.

"The majority of the kingdom's inhabitants were native Christians, especially Greek and Syrian Orthodox, as well as Sunni and Shi'a Muslims. There were also a small number of Jews and Samaritans. The native Christians and Muslims, who were a marginalized lower class, tended to speak Greek and Arabic, while the crusaders spoke Latin, French, and other Western European languages."

Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/QUOTE



Keep trying, and while you are at it look to the meaning of minority. The largest minority at that time in Jerusalem was the Jews followed by the muslims and lastly the arab Christians. The majority were Roman Catholics from Europe, the Crusaders as they were called, and Pilgrims from Europe. This is were Mohamed got his idea for the hajj from the many Christian pilgrims entering the Holy Land to visit the scenes of many of Jesus's miracles and to walk were he walked.

There were no Jews in Jerusalem after the Crusaders conquered Jerusalem and in any case were a small minority living in a "ghetto" (the word would not be invented until centuries later in Venice) before they were "eliminated" along with the Muslims. The largest group, the local Christian Arabs were of course spared.

You really need to read up on your history. By the way, notice the source for the information below.

"The city was captured on July 15, 1099 with Godfrey entering it through the Jewish quarter, where inhabitants defended themselves alongside their Muslim neighbors, finally seeking refuge in the synagogues, which were set on fire by the attackers. A terrible massacre ensued; the survivors were sold as slaves, some being later redeemed by Jewish communities in Italy. The Jewish community of Jerusalem came to an end and was not reconstituted for many years...."

Now Mohommod latici is making up Moslem Shiite and spewing Islamic propaganda. Jews always maintained a presence in the land and it has always been an integral part of their faith and will always be. You cannot disconnect Jerusalem and Zion from Judaism.

Continuous Jewish Presence in the Land With Maps

Only when they had crushed the revolt led by Simon Bar Kochba in 135 C.E. -- over sixty years after the destruction of the Second Temple -- did the Romans make a determined effort to stamp out Jewish identity in the Jewish homeland. They initiated the long process of laying the country waste. It was then that Jerusalem, "plowed over" at the order of Hadrian, was renamed Aelia Capitolina, and the country, denied of the name Judea, was renamed Syria Palestina. In the revolt itself -- the fiercest and longest revolt faced by the Roman Empire -- 580,000 Jewish soldiers perished in battle, and an untold number of civilians died of starvation and pestilence; 985 villages were destroyed.

Yet even after this further disaster, Jewish life remained active and productive. Banished from Jerusalem, it now centred on Galilee. Refugees returned; Jews who had been sold into slavery were redeemed. In the centuries after Bar Kochba and Hadrian, some of the most significant creations of the Jewish spirit were produced in Palestine. It was then that the Mishnah was completed and the Jerusalem Talmud was compiled, and the bulk of the community farmed the land.

The Roman Empire adopted Christianity in the fourth century; henceforth its policy in Palestine was governed by a new purpose: to prevent the birth of any glimmer of renewed hope of Jewish independence. It was after all, basic to Christian theology that loss of national independence was an act of God designed to punish the Jewish people for their rejection of Christ. The work of the Almighty had to be helped along. Some emperors were more lenient than others, but the minimal criteria of oppression and restriction were nearly always maintained.

Nevertheless, even the meagre surviving sources Name forty-three Jewish communities in Palestine in the sixth century: twelve towns on the coast, in the Negev, and east of the Jordan, and thirty-one villages in Galilee and in the Jordan valley.

The Jews' thoughts at every opportunity turned to the hope of national restoration. In the year 351, they launched yet another revolt, provoking heavy retribution When, in 438, the Empress Eudocia removed the ban on Jews' praying at the Temple site, the heads of the Community in Galilee issued a call "to the great and mighty people of the Jews" which began: "Know that the end of the exile of our people has come"!

 

[Roudy]

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

Lol at calling Rocck racist!!!!
Tell us , who is he racist against, and what did he say that would get him booted??
What did he say that you disagree with??

Even when Rocco posts politely, you insult him, which shows you can't handle the truth.

Claiming that Arab Palestinians were unable to determine what they were adds to the myth that the indigenous people were uncivilized savages. This not only untrue, it is a typical racist ploy. Europeans used this same ploy to rationalize the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the native americans.

Get over it. Even the Arabs considered the name "Palestinian" an insult because it referred to the Jews only. More baloney from the phony. Ha ha ha.

 

[Roudy]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Before you get to "foreign interference" you have to determine what is "foreign." And that depends on territorial control.


(COMMENT)

The territorial control was clearly remanded to the Allied Powers. The Sovereign Power (The Ottoman/Turks) gave up the territory to the Allied Powers. It was then up to the Allied Powers to determine who was "foreign interference."

The Arab Palestinian couldn't even determine if they were Syrian or what! Let alone determine who was a foreign interference.

Most Respectfully,
R

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

Lol at calling Rocck racist!!!!
Tell us , who is he racist against, and what did he say that would get him booted??
What did he say that you disagree with??

Even when Rocco posts politely, you insult him, which shows you can't handle the truth.

Like I said these terrorist apologists sure know how to squeal and whine a lot when stuck in their own BS. LOL

 

[aris2chat]

Damn right.
I could only imagine how embarresing it was for Egypts government.

They ran and left most of their tanks and equipment behind in the Sinai.

Haha ya I saw pictures of that.

I read about how the airforce commanders would make the pilots practice their sorties over and over and over until they were able to do it in very little time.

A legend grew up that they ran and left their shoes. The tanks and equipment though is true.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

So, in your racist mind, the Arab Palestinian was so uncivilized and unsophisticated that he/she could not determine what he was. Sheesh, on other forums you would have been booted long ago.

Lol at calling Rocck racist!!!!
Tell us , who is he racist against, and what did he say that would get him booted??
What did he say that you disagree with??

Even when Rocco posts politely, you insult him, which shows you can't handle the truth.

Like I said these terrorist apologists sure know how to squeal and whine a lot when stuck in their own BS. LOL

Yes, they don't have a leg to stand on, and sneak off with their tail between their legs. In other words they are sick animals.

 

[montelatici]

Lol at calling Rocck racist!!!!
Tell us , who is he racist against, and what did he say that would get him booted??
What did he say that you disagree with??

Even when Rocco posts politely, you insult him, which shows you can't handle the truth.

Like I said these terrorist apologists sure know how to squeal and whine a lot when stuck in their own BS. LOL

Yes, they don't have a leg to stand on, and sneak off with their tail between their legs. In other words they are sick animals.

One can observe how these brainwashed sock puppets pat each other harder on the back the more bullshit they exchange among themselves. In any case, the denigration of people being oppressed by the oppressor is standard operating procedure. It was used by the Germans vis-a-vis the Jews (and Gypsies, homosexuals etc.) to create an environment that facilitates the mistreatment and by extension murder of the people being oppressed. The way Rocco, as the ring leader, and his racist followers refer to Arabs and the Palestinian Arabs typical of racists. As I said, not many political forums would stand for it. This forum, or should I say this section, is most similar to Stormfront, the difference being that on Stormfront both Jews and non-whites are treated as most of you sock puppets treat the Arab Christians and Muslims.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Like I said these terrorist apologists sure know how to squeal and whine a lot when stuck in their own BS. LOL

Yes, they don't have a leg to stand on, and sneak off with their tail between their legs. In other words they are sick animals.

One can observe how these brainwashed sock puppets pat each other harder on the back the more bullshit they exchange among themselves. In any case, the denigration of people being oppressed by the oppressor is standard operating procedure. It was used by the Germans vis-a-vis the Jews (and Gypsies, homosexuals etc.) to create an environment that facilitates the mistreatment and by extension murder of the people being oppressed. The way Rocco, as the ring leader, and his racist followers refer to Arabs and the Palestinian Arabs typical of racists. As I said, not many political forums would stand for it. This forum, or should I say this section, is most similar to Stormfront, the difference being that on Stormfront both Jews and non-whites are treated as most of you sock puppets treat the Arab Christians and Muslims.

You, in your hate for the Jews and Israel, have been brainwashed in the lies against Israel. Not your fault of course, but you have just been reading the wrong news items and on the wrong forums. Stick around, you will learn lots here.

 

[Sally]

Yes, they don't have a leg to stand on, and sneak off with their tail between their legs. In other words they are sick animals.

One can observe how these brainwashed sock puppets pat each other harder on the back the more bullshit they exchange among themselves. In any case, the denigration of people being oppressed by the oppressor is standard operating procedure. It was used by the Germans vis-a-vis the Jews (and Gypsies, homosexuals etc.) to create an environment that facilitates the mistreatment and by extension murder of the people being oppressed. The way Rocco, as the ring leader, and his racist followers refer to Arabs and the Palestinian Arabs typical of racists. As I said, not many political forums would stand for it. This forum, or should I say this section, is most similar to Stormfront, the difference being that on Stormfront both Jews and non-whites are treated as most of you sock puppets treat the Arab Christians and Muslims.

You, in your hate for the Jews and Israel, have been brainwashed in the lies against Israel. Not your fault of course, but you have just been reading the wrong news items and on the wrong forums. Stick around, you will learn lots here.

You know how you can tell these phonies -- when they are just obsessed with one little area of the world because the Jews are involved and couldn't care less what is happening to other people, such as in the rest of the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and Africa. Thousands of people have been murdered because of their religious beliefs, and little Miss Phony Baloney closes her eyes to this.