Abbas climbs on board

[P F Tinmore]

Abbas, a long time supporter of Israel is supporting Hamas's position on the ceasefire.

In a move that could effectively turn Abbas into the main Palestinian point person for any Gaza truce, his umbrella Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) on Wednesday formally supported core conditions set by the Hamas-led fighters.

These demands include the release of hundreds of Hamas supporters recently arrested in the nearby West Bank and an end to the Egyptian-Israeli blockade of Gaza, which has stymied the economy and made it near impossible for anyone to travel abroad.

Egypt has tried to get both sides to hold fire and then negotiate terms for protracted calm in Gaza, which has been rocked by regular bouts of violence since Israel unilaterally pulled out of the territory in 2005.

Hamas wants those guarantees up front instead of negotiating forever after a ceasefire.

 

[Daniyel]

Hold on a second.. Abbas a long time supporter of Israel?

 

[Daniyel]

Abbas is Fatah - the only time he support Israel is now during protective edge because Israel securing his leadership over the Palestinians by killing Hamas.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Abbas, a long time supporter of Israel is supporting Hamas's position on the ceasefire.

In a move that could effectively turn Abbas into the main Palestinian point person for any Gaza truce, his umbrella Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) on Wednesday formally supported core conditions set by the Hamas-led fighters.

These demands include the release of hundreds of Hamas supporters recently arrested in the nearby West Bank and an end to the Egyptian-Israeli blockade of Gaza, which has stymied the economy and made it near impossible for anyone to travel abroad.

Egypt has tried to get both sides to hold fire and then negotiate terms for protracted calm in Gaza, which has been rocked by regular bouts of violence since Israel unilaterally pulled out of the territory in 2005.

Hamas wants those guarantees up front instead of negotiating forever after a ceasefire.

It's not that Abbas is a supporter of Israel, but he's interested in POSSIBLY signing a peace deal (although with outrageous demands), which Hamas is not willing to do at all.

 

[irosie91]

Hold on a second.. Abbas a long time supporter of Israel?

control your laughter, Dan...... I will explain-----at his job in the concentration camp----Dr Mengele spoke nicely and gently to the children he was about to dissect-----he sometimes even handed them
candy. -------some people assumed he had no ill intention toward the little jewish children

 

[P F Tinmore]

Hold on a second.. Abbas a long time supporter of Israel?

On the same day, about 100 young Palestinian men demonstrated outside police headquarters in Ramallah against security coordination between Israel and the PA. They threw stones and metal bars at the police station, in what was described by The Jerusalem Post’s Palestinian affairs correspondent Khaled Abu Toameh as a “highly unusual move.”

I ask Shikaki if opposition is building to the security coordination between Israel and the PA.

“There is a growing number calling to stop security coordination,” Shikaki said. “The attack [Sunday] was on a police station, not some other PA office.

Palestinian Affairs: Abduction politics | JPost | Israel News

 

[Daniyel]

Hold on a second.. Abbas a long time supporter of Israel?

On the same day, about 100 young Palestinian men demonstrated outside police headquarters in Ramallah against security coordination between Israel and the PA. They threw stones and metal bars at the police station, in what was described by The Jerusalem Post’s Palestinian affairs correspondent Khaled Abu Toameh as a “highly unusual move.”

I ask Shikaki if opposition is building to the security coordination between Israel and the PA.

“There is a growing number calling to stop security coordination,” Shikaki said. “The attack [Sunday] was on a police station, not some other PA office.

Palestinian Affairs: Abduction politics | JPost | Israel News

So based on that you claim Abbas is a long time supporter of Israel?
Abbas only care for the seat, calling for negotiations with preconditions which would never be accepted by the Israeli side, and all of that just for talking.
You present the terrorists like a sane rational minds of politics.
This is how the affairs between Hamas and Fatah..and by the way Fatah is more radical.

 

[Daniyel]

[MENTION=21837]P F Tinmore[/MENTION]
I also want you to watch this one, you can see the love is in the air.[Quoting the women in black and the guy in the beginning "You are worse than the Jews" the Hamas telling the journalist "Stop the camera"]

 

[irosie91]

Hold on a second.. Abbas a long time supporter of Israel?

On the same day, about 100 young Palestinian men demonstrated outside police headquarters in Ramallah against security coordination between Israel and the PA. They threw stones and metal bars at the police station, in what was described by The Jerusalem Post’s Palestinian affairs correspondent Khaled Abu Toameh as a “highly unusual move.”

I ask Shikaki if opposition is building to the security coordination between Israel and the PA.

“There is a growing number calling to stop security coordination,” Shikaki said. “The attack [Sunday] was on a police station, not some other PA office.

Palestinian Affairs: Abduction politics | JPost | Israel News

yeah so? how does this incident support your idiotic statement that islamo Nazi pig--
abu mazen is a "supporter of Israel"??

 

[Lipush]

Abbas can climb the boat, he just needs to be careful, as the over-weight might cause its sinking.

Israel wishes to recieve the Egyptian treaty. If Abbas wishes to help, let him concince Hamas to agree to the Egyptian initiative.

 

[Phoenall]

Abbas, a long time supporter of Israel is supporting Hamas's position on the ceasefire.

In a move that could effectively turn Abbas into the main Palestinian point person for any Gaza truce, his umbrella Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) on Wednesday formally supported core conditions set by the Hamas-led fighters.

These demands include the release of hundreds of Hamas supporters recently arrested in the nearby West Bank and an end to the Egyptian-Israeli blockade of Gaza, which has stymied the economy and made it near impossible for anyone to travel abroad.

Egypt has tried to get both sides to hold fire and then negotiate terms for protracted calm in Gaza, which has been rocked by regular bouts of violence since Israel unilaterally pulled out of the territory in 2005.

Hamas wants those guarantees up front instead of negotiating forever after a ceasefire.

And what are they prepared to put up front in return, or do they want everything and give nothing in return

 

[flacaltenn]

Hold on a second.. Abbas a long time supporter of Israel?

On the same day, about 100 young Palestinian men demonstrated outside police headquarters in Ramallah against security coordination between Israel and the PA. They threw stones and metal bars at the police station, in what was described by The Jerusalem Post’s Palestinian affairs correspondent Khaled Abu Toameh as a “highly unusual move.”

I ask Shikaki if opposition is building to the security coordination between Israel and the PA.

“There is a growing number calling to stop security coordination,” Shikaki said. “The attack [Sunday] was on a police station, not some other PA office.

Palestinian Affairs: Abduction politics | JPost | Israel News

Its CRIMINAL how little attention the world is giving to the ADULTS in the Palestinian Authority and Abbas. THEY want a legitimate nation-state and are SINCERELY working for that. Hamas can only get world attention when people die.. Hence the difference in Public Relations strategy.. YOU -- play right into Hamas's plan when you seek out examples of PA - Israel cooperation Just to denigrate that idea.....

Best thing that could happen is an agreement between Israel and PA that Israel will "de-militarize" Hamas in Gaza and then the PA will go in and teach them some manners "and the ways and blessings of peace"...

 

[proudveteran06]

Hold on a second.. Abbas a long time supporter of Israel?

control your laughter, Dan...... I will explain-----at his job in the concentration camp----Dr Mengele spoke nicely and gently to the children he was about to dissect-----he sometimes even handed them
candy. -------some people assumed he had no ill intention toward the little jewish children

Abbas, a long time supporter of a State with a JEWISH MAJORITY ???? I know Tinnie is older then most of us so I will excuse his dementia.

 

[Roudy]

Abbas, a long time supporter of Israel is supporting Hamas's position on the ceasefire.

In a move that could effectively turn Abbas into the main Palestinian point person for any Gaza truce, his umbrella Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) on Wednesday formally supported core conditions set by the Hamas-led fighters.

These demands include the release of hundreds of Hamas supporters recently arrested in the nearby West Bank and an end to the Egyptian-Israeli blockade of Gaza, which has stymied the economy and made it near impossible for anyone to travel abroad.

Egypt has tried to get both sides to hold fire and then negotiate terms for protracted calm in Gaza, which has been rocked by regular bouts of violence since Israel unilaterally pulled out of the territory in 2005.

Hamas wants those guarantees up front instead of negotiating forever after a ceasefire.

You mean the same Abbas that wrote Holocaust denial books for a living?

Gawd, "Abbas is a long time supporter of Israel". Ha ha ha.

 

[Daniyel]

Abbas, a long time supporter of Israel is supporting Hamas's position on the ceasefire.

In a move that could effectively turn Abbas into the main Palestinian point person for any Gaza truce, his umbrella Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) on Wednesday formally supported core conditions set by the Hamas-led fighters.

These demands include the release of hundreds of Hamas supporters recently arrested in the nearby West Bank and an end to the Egyptian-Israeli blockade of Gaza, which has stymied the economy and made it near impossible for anyone to travel abroad.

Egypt has tried to get both sides to hold fire and then negotiate terms for protracted calm in Gaza, which has been rocked by regular bouts of violence since Israel unilaterally pulled out of the territory in 2005.

Hamas wants those guarantees up front instead of negotiating forever after a ceasefire.

You mean the same Abbas that wrote Holocaust denial books for a living?

Gawd, "Abbas is a long time supporter of Israel". Ha ha ha.

Nooo that's the other Abbas, the one who accused Israel for genocide IN RAMALLAH!

 

[P F Tinmore]

[MENTION=21837]P F Tinmore[/MENTION]
I also want you to watch this one, you can see the love is in the air.[Quoting the women in black and the guy in the beginning "You are worse than the Jews" the Hamas telling the journalist "Stop the camera"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMwux0kpOwc

Perhaps a little background will help.

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of “engaging in a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory.” He believes that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah forced its hand. “It looks to me that what happened wasn’t so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,” Wurmser says.

The Gaza Bombshell | Vanity Fair

 

[Daniyel]

[MENTION=21837]P F Tinmore[/MENTION]
I also want you to watch this one, you can see the love is in the air.[Quoting the women in black and the guy in the beginning "You are worse than the Jews" the Hamas telling the journalist "Stop the camera"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMwux0kpOwc

Perhaps a little background will help.

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of “engaging in a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory.” He believes that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah forced its hand. “It looks to me that what happened wasn’t so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,” Wurmser says.

The Gaza Bombshell | Vanity Fair

Tinmore, you keep thinking these are rational minds, you classify the NOT-killing-Israelis-NOW neutrally as pro-Israelis, and justify those who does kill Israelis as normal reaction. as Israeli, how do you expect me to classify you?

 

[flacaltenn]

[MENTION=21837]P F Tinmore[/MENTION]
I also want you to watch this one, you can see the love is in the air.[Quoting the women in black and the guy in the beginning "You are worse than the Jews" the Hamas telling the journalist "Stop the camera"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMwux0kpOwc

Perhaps a little background will help.

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of “engaging in a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory.” He believes that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah forced its hand. “It looks to me that what happened wasn’t so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,” Wurmser says.

The Gaza Bombshell | Vanity Fair

Ironic ain't it PF? That Vanity Fair is taking a dig at the Bush Admin AND accusing Fatah of adopting the "BUSH DOCTRINE" of pre-emptive war.. That's actually hysterical... A virtual TWO-For-One for some lucky leftist journalist...

"Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza" .. Turns out -- NOW nobody wants it once they moved in..

 

[P F Tinmore]

[MENTION=21837]P F Tinmore[/MENTION]
I also want you to watch this one, you can see the love is in the air.[Quoting the women in black and the guy in the beginning "You are worse than the Jews" the Hamas telling the journalist "Stop the camera"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMwux0kpOwc

Perhaps a little background will help.

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of “engaging in a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory.” He believes that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah forced its hand. “It looks to me that what happened wasn’t so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,” Wurmser says.

The Gaza Bombshell | Vanity Fair

Tinmore, you keep thinking these are rational minds, you classify the NOT-killing-Israelis-NOW neutrally as pro-Israelis, and justify those who does kill Israelis as normal reaction. as Israeli, how do you expect me to classify you?

I don't understand your statement.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[MENTION=21837]P F Tinmore[/MENTION]
I also want you to watch this one, you can see the love is in the air.[Quoting the women in black and the guy in the beginning "You are worse than the Jews" the Hamas telling the journalist "Stop the camera"]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMwux0kpOwc

Perhaps a little background will help.

Wurmser accuses the Bush administration of “engaging in a dirty war in an effort to provide a corrupt dictatorship [led by Abbas] with victory.” He believes that Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza until Fatah forced its hand. “It looks to me that what happened wasn’t so much a coup by Hamas but an attempted coup by Fatah that was pre-empted before it could happen,” Wurmser says.

The Gaza Bombshell | Vanity Fair

Ironic ain't it PF? That Vanity Fair is taking a dig at the Bush Admin AND accusing Fatah of adopting the "BUSH DOCTRINE" of pre-emptive war.. That's actually hysterical... A virtual TWO-For-One for some lucky leftist journalist...

"Hamas had no intention of taking Gaza" .. Turns out -- NOW nobody wants it once they moved in..

Hamas was the elected government in office. This whole taking over Gaza thing makes no sense.