Abba Eban Was Right On The Money

[theliq]

Indeed, the Palestinians never took the opportunity to surrender.

Doesn't count, Tinmore. They were never offered surrender terms.

They have never been offered anything else.

That's a crock of shi'ite and you know it, Tinmore. Arafart turned down a list of offers including about 90% of the West Bank. Go to bed, you old fart.

Well whoop de doo, that is about 20% of Palestine.

Naughty Hoss........be kind to Tinmore........No Terrorist Thee

 

[toastman]

“the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”

Indeed, the Palestinians never took the opportunity to surrender.

Doesn't count, Tinmore. They were never offered surrender terms.

They have never been offered anything else.

That's a crock of shi'ite and you know it, Tinmore. Arafart turned down a list of offers including about 90% of the West Bank. Go to bed, you old fart.

Well whoop de doo, that is about 20% of Palestine.

Only in your little world Tinmore.

 

[toastman]

"The Arabs are morons. They were offered a deal to split the land 50-50 at the beginning. The Jews accepted."

Not exactly, The Jews, a minority, were given a gerrymandered territory where they had a 51% majority. The Christians and Muslims who were a majority overall were to submit to Jew rule in the gerrymandered area. I am a Christian, I would not want to be ruled by Jews. Would you?

No that is not correct. Please read. You'll also note within hours of the Jewish State being declared the Arabs choose war and invaded Israel.

Isn't that strange? I thought Islam was the religion of peace?


Israeli Declaration of Independence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

No, the Arab states attempted to stop the Jews from murdering or expelling the Christians and Muslims. You are just accepting propaganda.

The fact that 5 Arab states invaded the region, attacked Israel while making yhreats of annihalation is propaganda to you?
My goodness, you are full of more shit than I thought
Massive fail monti.

 

[Challenger]

Hoss, I just finished reading a book about the founding of the State of Israel called The Hope. Great Book....

I agree, Herman Wouk is a great fiction writer, can't wait for the min-series!

 

[theliq]

Hoss, I just finished reading a book about the founding of the State of Israel called The Hope. Great Book....

I agree, Herman Wouk is a great fiction writer, can't wait for the min-series!

Well there certainly wasn't any "Hope" for the Palestinians

 

[Phoenall]

"The Arabs are morons. They were offered a deal to split the land 50-50 at the beginning. The Jews accepted."

Not exactly, The Jews, a minority, were given a gerrymandered territory where they had a 51% majority. The Christians and Muslims who were a majority overall were to submit to Jew rule in the gerrymandered area. I am a Christian, I would not want to be ruled by Jews. Would you?

"The Arabs are morons. They were offered a deal to split the land 50-50 at the beginning. The Jews accepted."

Not exactly, The Jews, a minority, were given a gerrymandered territory where they had a 51% majority. The Christians and Muslims who were a majority overall were to submit to Jew rule in the gerrymandered area. I am a Christian, I would not want to be ruled by Jews. Would you?

So then child produce the treaty signed by the Palestinians representatives that gave them the land as theirs, a treaty that defined their borders and gave them full control. The fact that the arab muslims were more numerous means nothing, as the Christians were more numerous in Lebanon until the arab muslims decided to take the land. I would not like to be ruled by muslims after seeing the way they are treating Christians all over the Islamic world.

 

[Phoenall]

"The Arabs are morons. They were offered a deal to split the land 50-50 at the beginning. The Jews accepted."

Not exactly, The Jews, a minority, were given a gerrymandered territory where they had a 51% majority. The Christians and Muslims who were a majority overall were to submit to Jew rule in the gerrymandered area. I am a Christian, I would not want to be ruled by Jews. Would you?

No that is not correct. Please read. You'll also note within hours of the Jewish State being declared the Arabs choose war and invaded Israel.

Isn't that strange? I thought Islam was the religion of peace?


Israeli Declaration of Independence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

No, the Arab states attempted to stop the Jews from murdering or expelling the Christians and Muslims. You are just accepting propaganda.

Is that what the UN documents are then propaganda, making your use of them propaganda. That is were the facts come from the UN archives were the arab league threatens to wipe out the Jews and take back the land in a letter to the UN BEFORE THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

 

[Phoenall]

Read up on the Plan Dalet, where the Jews planned to (and were successful in) expelling the Christians and Muslims even in the area where they had a small majority.

Yes do and not on the ISLAMINAZI version that paints a different picture. Also look at the International law that has not changed that encompasses plan Dalet in its entirety. Then do explain the eviction of 1 million Jews from arab muslim nations contrary to International law and the UN charter. You forget about the greater atrocities carried out by the muslims that are all part of recent history and written down in the UN archives alongside your letters that mean nothing.

 

[Phoenall]

Plan Dalet

EVICTION OF 1 MILLION JEWS BY THE ARAB LEAGUE IN REPRISAL FOR GETTING THEIR ARSES KICKED

 

[Phoenall]

“the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”

Indeed, the Palestinians never took the opportunity to surrender.

Could be that they only know they are beaten when they lie lifeless on the ground

 

[Phoenall]

“the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”

Indeed, the Palestinians never took the opportunity to surrender.

Doesn't count, Tinmore. They were never offered surrender terms.

They have never been offered anything else.

And what have the arab muslims offered in return.....................VIOLENCE, WAR, BLOODSHED, ATROCITIES, TERRORISM AND EVICTION

 

[Phoenall]

"The Arabs are morons. They were offered a deal to split the land 50-50 at the beginning. The Jews accepted."

Not exactly, The Jews, a minority, were given a gerrymandered territory where they had a 51% majority. The Christians and Muslims who were a majority overall were to submit to Jew rule in the gerrymandered area. I am a Christian, I would not want to be ruled by Jews. Would you?

No that is not correct. Please read. You'll also note within hours of the Jewish State being declared the Arabs choose war and invaded Israel.

Isn't that strange? I thought Islam was the religion of peace?


Israeli Declaration of Independence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Well then how about me taking over 50% of the USA.....in the process murdering 10,000's Americans sending the rest out of the area.....then telling my decendents "no one lived here/there before"........So pack you bags because I'm coming........Why should Israel be given this land of which they had no legal claim.....and Why should the Palestinians not fight for their land.....as for your "Arabs chose War" This is a LIE,The Jews prior to 1948 committed themselves to WAR against the Palestinians to take/steal Palestinian land to create Israel...........your white-washing of factual History is Moronic

Footnote to Hoss

And Hoss for Gods Sake get rid of that "Saluting Soldier in battle fatigues" it sends the wrong message......being as you are really a Gentle Man and a Gentle Soul........

What legal claim do the arab muslims have to the lane then, were are the title deeds issued by the Ottomans and/or the British that gives them a legal right to the land. The Jews had this from the Mandate when the LoN being the legal owners of the land apportioned it into sections that went to various groups. The biggest group being the arab muslims who received 98% of the mandated land, leaving 2% for the other denominations. It all boils down to the Islamic Dar al Islam and Dar al Harb concepts that they think gives them ownership of the whole world. The Jews had to commit themselves to war because the arab muslims had declared war on Judaism back in 635C.E.

 

[Phoenall]

“the Arabs never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.”

Indeed, the Palestinians never took the opportunity to surrender.

Doesn't count, Tinmore. They were never offered surrender terms.

They have never been offered anything else.

That's a crock of shi'ite and you know it, Tinmore. Arafart turned down a list of offers including about 90% of the West Bank. Go to bed, you old fart.

Well whoop de doo, that is about 20% of Palestine.

Actually less than 1% when you take in the whole of the Palestinian mandate, the arab muslims received 98% of Palestine under the Mandate, the only ones not mentioned happened to be the illegal migrants and nomadic farm workers that call themselves Palestinians.

 

[Phoenall]

Hoss, I just finished reading a book about the founding of the State of Israel called The Hope. Great Book....

I agree, Herman Wouk is a great fiction writer, can't wait for the min-series!

Well there certainly wasn't any "Hope" for the Palestinians

Was there ever, even the arab league did the dirty on them when they refused to sanction their claim to the land in 1948, and let them hang on until the deadline was past.

 

[theliq]

Hoss, I just finished reading a book about the founding of the State of Israel called The Hope. Great Book....

I agree, Herman Wouk is a great fiction writer, can't wait for the min-series!

Well there certainly wasn't any "Hope" for the Palestinians

Was there ever, even the arab league did the dirty on them when they refused to sanction their claim to the land in 1948, and let them hang on until the deadline was past.

I think there could be much truth in what you say Phoenall............steve

 

[theliq]

"The Arabs are morons. They were offered a deal to split the land 50-50 at the beginning. The Jews accepted."

Not exactly, The Jews, a minority, were given a gerrymandered territory where they had a 51% majority. The Christians and Muslims who were a majority overall were to submit to Jew rule in the gerrymandered area. I am a Christian, I would not want to be ruled by Jews. Would you?

No that is not correct. Please read. You'll also note within hours of the Jewish State being declared the Arabs choose war and invaded Israel.

Isn't that strange? I thought Islam was the religion of peace?


Israeli Declaration of Independence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Well then how about me taking over 50% of the USA.....in the process murdering 10,000's Americans sending the rest out of the area.....then telling my decendents "no one lived here/there before"........So pack you bags because I'm coming........Why should Israel be given this land of which they had no legal claim.....and Why should the Palestinians not fight for their land.....as for your "Arabs chose War" This is a LIE,The Jews prior to 1948 committed themselves to WAR against the Palestinians to take/steal Palestinian land to create Israel...........your white-washing of factual History is Moronic

Footnote to Hoss

And Hoss for Gods Sake get rid of that "Saluting Soldier in battle fatigues" it sends the wrong message......being as you are really a Gentle Man and a Gentle Soul........

What legal claim do the arab muslims have to the lane then, were are the title deeds issued by the Ottomans and/or the British that gives them a legal right to the land. The Jews had this from the Mandate when the LoN being the legal owners of the land apportioned it into sections that went to various groups. The biggest group being the arab muslims who received 98% of the mandated land, leaving 2% for the other denominations. It all boils down to the Islamic Dar al Islam and Dar al Harb concepts that they think gives them ownership of the whole world. The Jews had to commit themselves to war because the arab muslims had declared war on Judaism back in 635C.E.

Phoenall the Jews were a very aggressive race long before,as the Canaanites and Moabites found to their total destruction by the Jews...and did likewise to each other as was attested to by the King of the Jews Saul by David,later King David...just sayin

 

[Phoenall]

Hoss, I just finished reading a book about the founding of the State of Israel called The Hope. Great Book....

I agree, Herman Wouk is a great fiction writer, can't wait for the min-series!

Well there certainly wasn't any "Hope" for the Palestinians

Was there ever, even the arab league did the dirty on them when they refused to sanction their claim to the land in 1948, and let them hang on until the deadline was past.

I think there could be much truth in what you say Phoenall............steve

The whole sorry mess could have been halted back in 1929 by the British arresting the Grand Mufti and finding him guilty of treason. Then hanging him outside the ai aqsa mosque on a friday afternoon.

 

[Phoenall]

"The Arabs are morons. They were offered a deal to split the land 50-50 at the beginning. The Jews accepted."

Not exactly, The Jews, a minority, were given a gerrymandered territory where they had a 51% majority. The Christians and Muslims who were a majority overall were to submit to Jew rule in the gerrymandered area. I am a Christian, I would not want to be ruled by Jews. Would you?

No that is not correct. Please read. You'll also note within hours of the Jewish State being declared the Arabs choose war and invaded Israel.

Isn't that strange? I thought Islam was the religion of peace?


Israeli Declaration of Independence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Well then how about me taking over 50% of the USA.....in the process murdering 10,000's Americans sending the rest out of the area.....then telling my decendents "no one lived here/there before"........So pack you bags because I'm coming........Why should Israel be given this land of which they had no legal claim.....and Why should the Palestinians not fight for their land.....as for your "Arabs chose War" This is a LIE,The Jews prior to 1948 committed themselves to WAR against the Palestinians to take/steal Palestinian land to create Israel...........your white-washing of factual History is Moronic

Footnote to Hoss

And Hoss for Gods Sake get rid of that "Saluting Soldier in battle fatigues" it sends the wrong message......being as you are really a Gentle Man and a Gentle Soul........

What legal claim do the arab muslims have to the lane then, were are the title deeds issued by the Ottomans and/or the British that gives them a legal right to the land. The Jews had this from the Mandate when the LoN being the legal owners of the land apportioned it into sections that went to various groups. The biggest group being the arab muslims who received 98% of the mandated land, leaving 2% for the other denominations. It all boils down to the Islamic Dar al Islam and Dar al Harb concepts that they think gives them ownership of the whole world. The Jews had to commit themselves to war because the arab muslims had declared war on Judaism back in 635C.E.

Phoenall the Jews were a very aggressive race long before,as the Canaanites and Moabites found to their total destruction by the Jews...and did likewise to each other as was attested to by the King of the Jews Saul by David,later King David...just sayin

Does not answer the question of who gave the arab muslims the title to the land, as up to the present day the land is still open to immigration and has no owners. Yes the Jews were aggressive 3,000 to 4,000 years ago, today it is the arab muslims that are aggressive, violent, bloodthirsty and barbaric as shown by the many wars and massacres involving arab muslims today.

 

[Challenger]

Hoss, I just finished reading a book about the founding of the State of Israel called The Hope. Great Book....

I agree, Herman Wouk is a great fiction writer, can't wait for the min-series!

Well there certainly wasn't any "Hope" for the Palestinians

Was there ever, even the arab league did the dirty on them when they refused to sanction their claim to the land in 1948, and let them hang on until the deadline was past.

I think there could be much truth in what you say Phoenall............steve

The whole sorry mess could have been halted back in 1929 by the British arresting the Grand Mufti and finding him guilty of treason. Then hanging him outside the ai aqsa mosque on a friday afternoon.

We weren't that stupid.