A Warning For Republicans

[PoliticalChic]

History provided a scenario which favors Democrats in the upcoming presidential elections.
Class warfare, government spending well into debt, and give-aways seems to be a powerful triple-threat.
The threat is to the long-term health of America....


1. The rapidity of the end of WWII, due to the atomic bomb- a secret until its first use on August 6th, prevented Keynesian planners from foisting a New Deal on America’s post-war economy. While FDR had planned on same, and Truman agreed, Congress repudiated the idea. And most voters wanted freer markets, without the high taxes, rationing and infringements on civil liberties.

2. This, even in the face of returning veterans and the possible unemployment. But Congress lifted most economic controls, cut tax rates, slashed federal spending and trusted entrepreneurs to create the needed jobs. It worked. The large dose of freedom revived the economy, which grew faster in 1946 and 1947 than government experts had predicted, and unemployment stabilized at 3.9%.

a. Although Truman was a faithful New Dealer, the Democrats were thrashed in the 1946 midterm elections. He was amazed at the success of the anti-New Deal programs! But, he embraced the economic recovery and artfully campaigned for reelection in 1948 on the theme of class warfare! He vetoed further tax rate cuts because he believed “high taxes contribute to the welfare and security of the country.” He sounded an alarm that if Republicans further cut government spending they would wipe out FDR’s New Deal programs.

b. In 1948 he won reelection and captured Congress for the Democrats.

From “FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America” by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom…p. 312.


More history?

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."
Alexander Tyler 1787
{There is some question as to the authenticity of the attribution. But not the premise}



A little bit more?

“The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero 55 BC

 

[rdean]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

History provided a scenario which favors Democrats in the upcoming presidential elections.
Class warfare, government spending well into debt, and give-aways seems to be a powerful triple-threat.
The threat is to the long-term health of America....


1. The rapidity of the end of WWII, due to the atomic bomb- a secret until its first use on August 6th, prevented Keynesian planners from foisting a New Deal on America’s post-war economy. While FDR had planned on same, and Truman agreed, Congress repudiated the idea. And most voters wanted freer markets, without the high taxes, rationing and infringements on civil liberties.

2. This, even in the face of returning veterans and the possible unemployment. But Congress lifted most economic controls, cut tax rates, slashed federal spending and trusted entrepreneurs to create the needed jobs. It worked. The large dose of freedom revived the economy, which grew faster in 1946 and 1947 than government experts had predicted, and unemployment stabilized at 3.9%.

a. Although Truman was a faithful New Dealer, the Democrats were thrashed in the 1946 midterm elections. He was amazed at the success of the anti-New Deal programs! But, he embraced the economic recovery and artfully campaigned for reelection in 1948 on the theme of class warfare! He vetoed further tax rate cuts because he believed “high taxes contribute to the welfare and security of the country.” He sounded an alarm that if Republicans further cut government spending they would wipe out FDR’s New Deal programs.

b. In 1948 he won reelection and captured Congress for the Democrats.

From “FDR Goes To War: How Expanded Executive Power, Spiraling National Debt, And Restricted Civil Liberties Shaped Wartime America” by Burton W. Folsom Jr. and Anita Folsom…p. 312.


More history?

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."
Alexander Tyler 1787
{There is some question as to the authenticity of the attribution. But not the premise}

A little bit more?

“The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero 55 BC

Obama's got us on a glide path to third world status and he's given us the debt, deficits and downgrade to prove it.

There are so many uneducated people solidly in the Dem camp (See the Rdean post above), that we may have to hit Ctl Alt Del and reboot the whole system

 

[theHawk]

You have to admit the Hussein is a great salesman. Going on 4 years now of total failure in the economy and his kool-aid drinkers are clamouring for more (see any Rdean post).

 

[PoliticalChic]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

So...you deny that the problem was that LBJ bought the black vote...rather than those horrible Republicans fled from blacks?

There are several problems in your worldview, Chubs, but for now let's stick to the one based on human nature.
LBJ knew what you don't. Folks will tend to move closer to the folks who will give them something for nothing.....just their votes.

When L.B.J.’s War on Poverty initiatives are balanced against costs—the lost economic growth, the massively expanded taxation, the substantial increase in the size and scope of government, and the creation of a class of citizens completely dependent upon the government—the War on Poverty looks like a failure.

1966 LBJ expanded the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program…under FDR, AFDC had been limited to widows, those who had lost their husbands and now lacked a breadwinner at home to help support the children.

Then began to loosen and expand the rules of AFDC eligibility, eventually getting to the point where any woman living alone with children could take advantage of this program. In doing so, they not only bought a large number of new votes, they also incentivized out of wedlock births and single motherhood.

As Charles Murray described in “Losing Ground,” the Great Society incentivized the same negative behaviors that cause poverty in the first place.

Millions of women discovered that they could be better off financially by not marrying.
Prior to 1957, LBJ “had never supported civil rights legislation- any civil rights legislation. In the Senate and House alike, his record was an unbroken one of votes against every civil rights bill that had ever come to a vote: against voting rights bills; against bills that would have struck at job discrimination and at segregation in other areas of American life; even against bills that would have protected blacks from lynching.”
Robert Caro, “Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson, vol.3,” p. xv.


Wake up, deanie.

 

[rdean]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

So...you deny that the problem was that LBJ bought the black vote...rather than those horrible Republicans fled from blacks?

There are several problems in your worldview, Chubs, but for now let's stick to the one based on human nature.
LBJ knew what you don't. Folks will tend to move closer to the folks who will give them something for nothing.....just their votes.

When L.B.J.’s War on Poverty initiatives are balanced against costs—the lost economic growth, the massively expanded taxation, the substantial increase in the size and scope of government, and the creation of a class of citizens completely dependent upon the government—the War on Poverty looks like a failure.

1966 LBJ expanded the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program…under FDR, AFDC had been limited to widows, those who had lost their husbands and now lacked a breadwinner at home to help support the children.

Then began to loosen and expand the rules of AFDC eligibility, eventually getting to the point where any woman living alone with children could take advantage of this program. In doing so, they not only bought a large number of new votes, they also incentivized out of wedlock births and single motherhood.

As Charles Murray described in “Losing Ground,” the Great Society incentivized the same negative behaviors that cause poverty in the first place.

Millions of women discovered that they could be better off financially by not marrying.
Prior to 1957, LBJ “had never supported civil rights legislation- any civil rights legislation. In the Senate and House alike, his record was an unbroken one of votes against every civil rights bill that had ever come to a vote: against voting rights bills; against bills that would have struck at job discrimination and at segregation in other areas of American life; even against bills that would have protected blacks from lynching.”
Robert Caro, “Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson, vol.3,” p. xv.


Wake up, deanie.

OK, I see the complaints about LBJ. The truth is, blacks came to the Democratic Party and the whites fled the party and joined the Republican Party which is now 90% white. Say what you want about liberals, the major accomplishments of the nation come from liberals. Conservatives are good for racism, ignorance, guns and intolerance. All conservative policies are disasters. They can't run the country. They spend like crazy. Their foreign policy is a disaster. Point fingers at the left, but remember, three fingers are pointing right back at you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

So...you deny that the problem was that LBJ bought the black vote...rather than those horrible Republicans fled from blacks?

There are several problems in your worldview, Chubs, but for now let's stick to the one based on human nature.
LBJ knew what you don't. Folks will tend to move closer to the folks who will give them something for nothing.....just their votes.

When L.B.J.’s War on Poverty initiatives are balanced against costs—the lost economic growth, the massively expanded taxation, the substantial increase in the size and scope of government, and the creation of a class of citizens completely dependent upon the government—the War on Poverty looks like a failure.

1966 LBJ expanded the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program…under FDR, AFDC had been limited to widows, those who had lost their husbands and now lacked a breadwinner at home to help support the children.

Then began to loosen and expand the rules of AFDC eligibility, eventually getting to the point where any woman living alone with children could take advantage of this program. In doing so, they not only bought a large number of new votes, they also incentivized out of wedlock births and single motherhood.

As Charles Murray described in “Losing Ground,” the Great Society incentivized the same negative behaviors that cause poverty in the first place.

Millions of women discovered that they could be better off financially by not marrying.
Prior to 1957, LBJ “had never supported civil rights legislation- any civil rights legislation. In the Senate and House alike, his record was an unbroken one of votes against every civil rights bill that had ever come to a vote: against voting rights bills; against bills that would have struck at job discrimination and at segregation in other areas of American life; even against bills that would have protected blacks from lynching.”
Robert Caro, “Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson, vol.3,” p. xv.


Wake up, deanie.

OK, I see the complaints about LBJ. The truth is, blacks came to the Democratic Party and the whites fled the party and joined the Republican Party which is now 90% white. Say what you want about liberals, the major accomplishments of the nation come from liberals. Conservatives are good for racism, ignorance, guns and intolerance. All conservative policies are disasters. They can't run the country. They spend like crazy. Their foreign policy is a disaster. Point fingers at the left, but remember, three fingers are pointing right back at you.

“Son, when I appoint a ****** to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a ******.” -- Dem Civil Rights "Hero" LBJ on Thurgood Marshall

 

[rdean]

So...you deny that the problem was that LBJ bought the black vote...rather than those horrible Republicans fled from blacks?

There are several problems in your worldview, Chubs, but for now let's stick to the one based on human nature.
LBJ knew what you don't. Folks will tend to move closer to the folks who will give them something for nothing.....just their votes.

When L.B.J.’s War on Poverty initiatives are balanced against costs—the lost economic growth, the massively expanded taxation, the substantial increase in the size and scope of government, and the creation of a class of citizens completely dependent upon the government—the War on Poverty looks like a failure.

1966 LBJ expanded the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program…under FDR, AFDC had been limited to widows, those who had lost their husbands and now lacked a breadwinner at home to help support the children.

Then began to loosen and expand the rules of AFDC eligibility, eventually getting to the point where any woman living alone with children could take advantage of this program. In doing so, they not only bought a large number of new votes, they also incentivized out of wedlock births and single motherhood.

As Charles Murray described in “Losing Ground,” the Great Society incentivized the same negative behaviors that cause poverty in the first place.

Millions of women discovered that they could be better off financially by not marrying.
Prior to 1957, LBJ “had never supported civil rights legislation- any civil rights legislation. In the Senate and House alike, his record was an unbroken one of votes against every civil rights bill that had ever come to a vote: against voting rights bills; against bills that would have struck at job discrimination and at segregation in other areas of American life; even against bills that would have protected blacks from lynching.”
Robert Caro, “Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson, vol.3,” p. xv.


Wake up, deanie.

OK, I see the complaints about LBJ. The truth is, blacks came to the Democratic Party and the whites fled the party and joined the Republican Party which is now 90% white. Say what you want about liberals, the major accomplishments of the nation come from liberals. Conservatives are good for racism, ignorance, guns and intolerance. All conservative policies are disasters. They can't run the country. They spend like crazy. Their foreign policy is a disaster. Point fingers at the left, but remember, three fingers are pointing right back at you.

“Son, when I appoint a ****** to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a ******.” -- Dem Civil Rights "Hero" LBJ on Thurgood Marshall

You love using "boy" and other racist words. You're fillthy. That's the only way to explain you. Filthy.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

OK, I see the complaints about LBJ. The truth is, blacks came to the Democratic Party and the whites fled the party and joined the Republican Party which is now 90% white. Say what you want about liberals, the major accomplishments of the nation come from liberals. Conservatives are good for racism, ignorance, guns and intolerance. All conservative policies are disasters. They can't run the country. They spend like crazy. Their foreign policy is a disaster. Point fingers at the left, but remember, three fingers are pointing right back at you.

“Son, when I appoint a ****** to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a ******.” -- Dem Civil Rights "Hero" LBJ on Thurgood Marshall

You love using "boy" and other racist words. You're fillthy. That's the only way to explain you. Filthy.

I quote LBJ Verbatim you fucking mental patient

 

[CrusaderFrank]

OK, I see the complaints about LBJ. The truth is, blacks came to the Democratic Party and the whites fled the party and joined the Republican Party which is now 90% white. Say what you want about liberals, the major accomplishments of the nation come from liberals. Conservatives are good for racism, ignorance, guns and intolerance. All conservative policies are disasters. They can't run the country. They spend like crazy. Their foreign policy is a disaster. Point fingers at the left, but remember, three fingers are pointing right back at you.

“Son, when I appoint a ****** to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a ******.” -- Dem Civil Rights "Hero" LBJ on Thurgood Marshall

You love using "boy" and other racist words. You're fillthy. That's the only way to explain you. Filthy.

Mental illness is no joke, Deany, you should stop pretending to take your meds

 

[Trajan]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

robert approves of your post.....

 

[TruthSeeker56]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

Your complete IGNORANCE of historical facts, and your overall stupidity, never ceases to amaze me (and many others, I'm sure).

Is your reason for being here strictly for our amusement? Are you the "hired clown"?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

Your complete IGNORANCE of historical facts, and your overall stupidity, never ceases to amaze me (and many others, I'm sure).

Is your reason for being here strictly for our amusement? Are you the "hired clown"?

TruthSeeker, having seen this kind of post over and over from deanie, it seems to me that he is trying to deal with some kind of deep and enduring pain.

I don't know whether it is personal in provenance or general, but it is clearly racial, and not based on a study of history or an analysis of the situation.

To folks like us, black people are as capable and worthy as any other folks, but have been co-opted by promises, unfulfilled promises, by a party which will string them along as long as they provide votes and power.

So, it pays not to be angry with deanie...he is his own worst enemy.
For me, I will simply continue to offer the correct perspective, and hope that he begins to see the light.

Is that too preachy?

 

[Dragon]

1. The rapidity of the end of WWII, due to the atomic bomb- a secret until its first use on August 6th, prevented Keynesian planners from foisting a New Deal on America’s post-war economy. While FDR had planned on same, and Truman agreed, Congress repudiated the idea. And most voters wanted freer markets, without the high taxes, rationing and infringements on civil liberties.

Taxes were kept high after the war. The top marginal rate was 91% until 1964, when it was reduced to 77%. (That was not under a Republican, by the way.) Rationing was always a wartime measure and was always intended to end when the war was over. There was fear that when the high military spending was reduced the nation would drop back into depression, and so it was assumed that remedial measures would be necessary -- it was not conspired to implement them out of some diabolic-possession-theory evil intent. The assumption proved incorrect, the remedial measures weren't necessary, and so they weren't implemented. However, the New Deal was not repealed, and there was no return to laissez-faire. The changes implemented under Roosevelt were lasting.

If you're going to present history, it is better for most purposes to present it accurately. Of course, if your purpose is to further a non-fact-based agenda, that may not be true.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure.

It's also important to distinguish history -- you know, the actual record of things that have happened -- from ideology, which this statement is. It's a fairly famous assertion often quoted by right-wingers as if it were fact, but never once has even ONE historical example of a democracy that has fallen for that reason been presented. As for the longer sequence of alleged stages, not only has that never been exampled, those terms have never even been defined. Can you do so now?

“The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero 55 BC

A famous quote by a famous conservative -- and yet also a man guilty, when consul, of executing Roman citizens without trial. He was also well known for frittering away his money buying villas he had no use for, and pretending to be poor. A social climber who overcame the handicap of a lack of noble birth by great ability and wit and by shamelessly pandering to right-wing factions in the Senate. Cicero was famous for eloquence and inspiring oratory. He was not famous for a grasp on reality, and in fact he had little of it. If you're going to read his words (preferably in the original Latin) for sheer enjoyment of one of the great writers of all time, fine, but don't believe him.

 

[Ernie S.]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

You do realize that Democrats are mostly white Christians too don't you?

 

[OldUSAFSniper]

I always look forward to reading Political Chic's posts. They are factual and completely logical. And then rdean comes and puts his two cents in. Naturally, in his world, the only 'evil' in this world are the Republicans and conservatives in general. In Wikipedia, if you look up the term "Democratic party hack", you will see rdean's bio. But that's okay too. You see, conservatives like me believe in freedom. We believe that everyone has the right to voice their opinion and we actually weigh those opinions with our own. Liberals believe that anyone with a differing opinion, especially a conservative one, are dangerous and should be silenced. I refer to the attacks on talk radio, Fox News, and other conservative outlets and the attempt to reinstate the "fairness" doctrine.

We have seen over and over the ability of politicians to literally buy votes with entitlements. Already, Claire McCaskell in Missouri is airing ads claiming that if the Republicans repeal Obamacare, that more people than ever will NOT have access to medical care, especially seniors. Joe Biden stands before the AFL-CIO and tells them that if Obama does not win in November, then 'card-check' and the unions ability to control business in America will be severly damaged.

Great post... another home run!

 

[Ernie S.]

OK, I see the complaints about LBJ. The truth is, blacks came to the Democratic Party and the whites fled the party and joined the Republican Party which is now 90% white. Say what you want about liberals, the major accomplishments of the nation come from liberals. Conservatives are good for racism, ignorance, guns and intolerance. All conservative policies are disasters. They can't run the country. They spend like crazy. Their foreign policy is a disaster. Point fingers at the left, but remember, three fingers are pointing right back at you.

“Son, when I appoint a ****** to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a ******.” -- Dem Civil Rights "Hero" LBJ on Thurgood Marshall

You love using "boy" and other racist words. You're fillthy. That's the only way to explain you. Filthy.

Hey dweeb! Could you link the post by Crusader Frank in the last line of your signature? I'd like to go and rep him.

 

[Ernie S.]

Before the middle 60's, the Republican Party was the "liberal" party. During the 60's, conservatives fled the Democratic Party because so many blacks joined. Conservatives swelled the ranks of the Republican Party and that's why Republicans today are 90% white and mostly Christian.

When talking about the parties, it's better to talk in terms of "conservatives" and "liberals". Then today's conservatives wouldn't be accused of taking credit for something liberals did in the past.

For instance, we now know, directly from John McCain that torture had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. That was something Obama did without a shred of help from the Republican Party.

We also know the Republican Party in the 50's supported a 90% plus tax rate on the wealthiest Americans and their policies worked beyond our wildest dreams. Unlike the polices of today's Republican Party which is all about screwing the middle class and squeezing the American economy out of every cent they can get.

Your complete IGNORANCE of historical facts, and your overall stupidity, never ceases to amaze me (and many others, I'm sure).

Is your reason for being here strictly for our amusement? Are you the "hired clown"?

TruthSeeker, having seen this kind of post over and over from deanie, it seems to me that he is trying to deal with some kind of deep and enduring pain.

I don't know whether it is personal in provenance or general, but it is clearly racial, and not based on a study of history or an analysis of the situation.

To folks like us, black people are as capable and worthy as any other folks, but have been co-opted by promises, unfulfilled promises, by a party which will string them along as long as they provide votes and power.

So, it pays not to be angry with deanie...he is his own worst enemy.
For me, I will simply continue to offer the correct perspective, and hope that he begins to see the light.

Is that too preachy?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. The rapidity of the end of WWII, due to the atomic bomb- a secret until its first use on August 6th, prevented Keynesian planners from foisting a New Deal on America’s post-war economy. While FDR had planned on same, and Truman agreed, Congress repudiated the idea. And most voters wanted freer markets, without the high taxes, rationing and infringements on civil liberties.

Taxes were kept high after the war. The top marginal rate was 91% until 1964, when it was reduced to 77%. (That was not under a Republican, by the way.) Rationing was always a wartime measure and was always intended to end when the war was over. There was fear that when the high military spending was reduced the nation would drop back into depression, and so it was assumed that remedial measures would be necessary -- it was not conspired to implement them out of some diabolic-possession-theory evil intent. The assumption proved incorrect, the remedial measures weren't necessary, and so they weren't implemented. However, the New Deal was not repealed, and there was no return to laissez-faire. The changes implemented under Roosevelt were lasting.

If you're going to present history, it is better for most purposes to present it accurately. Of course, if your purpose is to further a non-fact-based agenda, that may not be true.

1. " The top marginal rate was 91% until 1964..."
Democratic Senator Walter George and Republican Albert Hawks wanted to cut taxes to allow business to grow, and repeal the Excess Profits Tax (90%) . In the Revenue Act of 1945 reduced individual income tax rates (the top rate fell from 94 percent to 86.45 percent), and reduced corporate tax rates (the top rate dropped from 40 percent to 38 percent).

a. The result was massive economic expansion. Unemployment was 3.9% in 1946 and 1947.

b. Europe, under Keynesian planning, was starving and required shipments of US food.

c. If you're going to present history, it is better for most purposes to present it accurately.

 

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1. The rapidity of the end of WWII, due to the atomic bomb- a secret until its first use on August 6th, prevented Keynesian planners from foisting a New Deal on America’s post-war economy. While FDR had planned on same, and Truman agreed, Congress repudiated the idea. And most voters wanted freer markets, without the high taxes, rationing and infringements on civil liberties.

Taxes were kept high after the war. The top marginal rate was 91% until 1964, when it was reduced to 77%. (That was not under a Republican, by the way.) Rationing was always a wartime measure and was always intended to end when the war was over. There was fear that when the high military spending was reduced the nation would drop back into depression, and so it was assumed that remedial measures would be necessary -- it was not conspired to implement them out of some diabolic-possession-theory evil intent. The assumption proved incorrect, the remedial measures weren't necessary, and so they weren't implemented. However, the New Deal was not repealed, and there was no return to laissez-faire. The changes implemented under Roosevelt were lasting.

If you're going to present history, it is better for most purposes to present it accurately. Of course, if your purpose is to further a non-fact-based agenda, that may not be true.

1. " The top marginal rate was 91% until 1964..."
Democratic Senator Walter George and Republican Albert Hawks wanted to cut taxes to allow business to grow, and repeal the Excess Profits Tax (90%) . In the Revenue Act of 1945 reduced individual income tax rates (the top rate fell from 94 percent to 86.45 percent), and reduced corporate tax rates (the top rate dropped from 40 percent to 38 percent).

a. The result was massive economic expansion. Unemployment was 3.9% in 1946 and 1947.

b. Europe, under Keynesian planning, was starving and required shipments of US food.

c. If you're going to present history, it is better for most purposes to present it accurately.

take your own advice, hack.

you do realize that a war was fought in europe, right? you know, with bombs and shit?

idiot