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Saw that in Maine in the 90's with the spruce. The little buggers have been spotted again just over the border in Canada, so we're probably in for it again.Pictures from Wyoming -- Pine beetles..
Utah..
It's insecticide now or fire retardant or water later according to the OP blaming beetles.Sorry the beetles didn't set the trees on fire otherwise you wouldn't call them bark beetles, you'd call them pyro beetles or Antifa....sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.www.nationalgeographic.com
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
If the beetles are a problem in Cali then why didn't they take their multi million dollar home property taxes and spray the base of the trees where their eggs sit and hatch? Oh that's right, they can't even spray the sidewalk poo, what makes us think infestation of beetles is more important then hairdresser appointments.
You ever try to spray 100,000 acres of trees?? For my ASH beetle problem, I've got to do injections or insecticide every 2 years for maybe the next decade.. That's a lot of work for 16 trees.
Bark beetles DONT set trees on fire.. MAN, Lightning, and PGE lines coming down do...
Yes that's a lot of work as is putting out fires if that can have volunteers then put the hippies to work and get them to save the forests and volunteer.
Lightening was to blame for the previous fires and maybe one recent but most others during this one were arsons.
Brother in law and I picked up a load of blue pine tongue and groove yesterday. The wrapping said it was from sustainable forests. We assumed, because more trees were being killed by the pine beetle every day. Beautiful wood, nice grain with dramatic changes of color and with the holes and burrow markings of the beetle trails throughout each piece. What doesn't burn, makes great looking ceilings, walls and interior accent....sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
...sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
Most people look for the simplest of answers. Especially conspiracy orientated folks who have ONE ANSWER to every problem.. Environmental problems almost NEVER have "one cause".. It's complex.. And in this case, the article is RIGHT ON..
GW is a convenient excuse to IGNORE all the other issues of wildfires. Just like we recently found that coral reefs with a human tourist footprint were dying because of a sunblock ingredient that is deadly in even MINUTE quantities.
MANY countries have similar forest/suburban interfaces like Cali.. And similar droughts and climate and yet THEY don't have our problems.. It's because there's a whole SCIENCE of forest mgt and wilderness mgt that has been tossed out the window because the govt orgs in charge have this imagined vision of NO HUMAN FOOTPRINT in the forests and wilderness.
In addition the things cited in your article, firetrails, fire breaks, infrastructure for forest mgt is BANNED as an option...
Here in Hillbilly Hollywood we have the scourge of Emerald Ash Borers,.. Was just told that ALL my ash trees need to be protected. I've got about 16 of them on the cleared part of my lot.. One already clearly dead -- a couple probably infected. It's gonna rip thru middle tennessee like a wildfire and in the next ten years -- unprotected ash trees will be very rare..
Roadless ACT.............DNC laws will not even allow the forestry dept to build a road let alone a fire break.
Forcing rotting wood to lay on the ground and not burned off attracts bugs........beetles.....
Overgrown trees not thinned kill trees and bugs...........beetles love to eat dead trees......
Many forestry management people like to cut down trees and leave them in piles while thinning the forests..........so the beetles will come into this delicious pile of dead wood and feed.............to be then burned later in a controlled burn.
Decades worth of mismanagement and idiotic laws and Acts have caused this..........and now the left goes........WOW.........I COULD HAVE HAD A V-8
BUT bark beetles help create the conditions that turn a manageable fire into an out of control inferno.Sorry the beetles didn't set the trees on fire otherwise you wouldn't call them bark beetles, you'd call them pyro beetles or Antifa....sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
If the beetles are a problem in Cali then why didn't they take their multi million dollar home property taxes and spray the base of the trees where their eggs sit and hatch? Oh that's right, they can't even spray the sidewalk poo, what makes us think infestation of beetles is more important then hairdresser appointments.
You ever try to spray 100,000 acres of trees?? For my ASH beetle problem, I've got to do injections or insecticide every 2 years for maybe the next decade.. That's a lot of work for 16 trees.
Bark beetles DONT set trees on fire.. MAN, Lightning, and PGE lines coming down do...
Sadly no...debunked conspiracy theory.Yea, it has nothing to do with your Antifa friends:...sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
Why not deforest?...sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
thefederalist.com
He is in the sealing process. I will get a shot for you later. He's at car show today.Brother in law and I picked up a load of blue pine tongue and groove yesterday. The wrapping said it was from sustainable forests. We assumed, because more trees were being killed by the pine beetle every day. Beautiful wood, nice grain with dramatic changes of color and with the holes and burrow markings of the beetle trails throughout each piece. What doesn't burn, makes great looking ceilings, walls and interior accent....sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
Sounds interesting, do have a picture?
So does electing the wrong State officials andBUT bark beetles help create the conditions that turn a manageable fire into an out of control inferno.Sorry the beetles didn't set the trees on fire otherwise you wouldn't call them bark beetles, you'd call them pyro beetles or Antifa....sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
If the beetles are a problem in Cali then why didn't they take their multi million dollar home property taxes and spray the base of the trees where their eggs sit and hatch? Oh that's right, they can't even spray the sidewalk poo, what makes us think infestation of beetles is more important then hairdresser appointments.
You ever try to spray 100,000 acres of trees?? For my ASH beetle problem, I've got to do injections or insecticide every 2 years for maybe the next decade.. That's a lot of work for 16 trees.
Bark beetles DONT set trees on fire.. MAN, Lightning, and PGE lines coming down do...
I know about the beetle problem, I had this conversation weeks ago, but these fires were 4 out of 5 arsons by people with bad parents. What are you doing to address absantee parents (who don't know what their kids are doing or who they are associating with) instead of absantee ballots.It's insecticide now or fire retardant or water later according to the OP blaming beetles.Sorry the beetles didn't set the trees on fire otherwise you wouldn't call them bark beetles, you'd call them pyro beetles or Antifa....sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
If the beetles are a problem in Cali then why didn't they take their multi million dollar home property taxes and spray the base of the trees where their eggs sit and hatch? Oh that's right, they can't even spray the sidewalk poo, what makes us think infestation of beetles is more important then hairdresser appointments.
You ever try to spray 100,000 acres of trees?? For my ASH beetle problem, I've got to do injections or insecticide every 2 years for maybe the next decade.. That's a lot of work for 16 trees.
Bark beetles DONT set trees on fire.. MAN, Lightning, and PGE lines coming down do...
Yes that's a lot of work as is putting out fires if that can have volunteers then put the hippies to work and get them to save the forests and volunteer.
Lightening was to blame for the previous fires and maybe one recent but most others during this one were arsons.
I think it is easy to ignore the interrelatedness of the causes of these events. It isn’t just the initial spark, it is all the other factors that go into turning an easily managed fire to a thousands of acres devastation.
When tree killing insects spread, weakening and killing trees, you are lookIng at thousands of acres of dead wood.
But certain insects do strange things to trees...
Key Findings
Fire managers and firefighters should be aware of the possibility of increased potential for crown fire initiation in beetle-affected stands as well as the prospect for rapid changes in fire behavior as fires move in and out of beetle-affected areas.
- Lodgepole pine (Pinus contorta) trees are chemically altered after mountain pine beetle (Dendroctonus ponderosae) attacks. Trees dry out rapidly during the red stage and are more flammable than unaffected trees.
- Beetle attacks increase the emission rates of several highly flammable terpenes.
- The flammability of yellow and red trees is higher than green trees because they have (1) shorter times to ignition, (2) lower temperatures at ignition, and (3) higher heat yields.
- Needles of Engelmann spruce (Picea engelmannii) during the yellow stage of a spruce beetle (Dendroctonus rufipennis) attack contain less moisture and are more flammable than unattacked trees.
Healthy trees can usually withstand fire and limit both it’s spread and intensity. Affected trees, or worse, large amounts of dead forest plus overly dry conditions and winds turn it from manageable to out of control.
I don’t understand why people it’s just one thing leading to a forest fire.
As to the claim most were arson, that is simply untrue. Arson is the deliberate setting of a fire (and every fire is automatically investigated for possible arson), most are human caused, but accidental, not intentional.
What started the fires?
Many fires were started because of human causes, including most of the fires in California. The El Dorado Fire in Southern California’s San Bernardino County was started on September 5 by a pyrotechnic device at a gender-reveal party in El Dorado Ranch Park, just 80 miles outside Los Angeles. In Oregon, officials have opened an arson investigation into the Alameda Fire, which is responsible for multiple deaths and has destroyed hundreds of homes.
However, some of the fires, including the August Complex Fire, were caused by lightning strikes in extremely dry areas. Others in Oregon and California were started by downed power lines. Unusually strong winds in Oregon have helped spread the fires rapidly there while typical winds in California were made even worse by a sudden winter snowstorm in the Rocky Mountains, which sent cold air blasting into the Sierra and Cascade mountain ranges.
Multiple far-right and conspiracy websites have been spreading misinformation about the origin of the fires, on Facebook and YouTube especially. They claim, with absolutely no support, that they were set by members of antifa and Black Lives Matter. Websites the Gateway Pundit and the Post Millennial have claimed without evidence that Jeff Acord, a 36-year-old man arrested on charges of starting a fire in Washington, was an “antifa militant.” Many of the rumors have been amplified by self-professed QAnon supporters.
In my state, we are 78% forest. We have not seen forest fires such as have been engulfing the west. We have our share of flammable idiots and meth labs...but no devastating fires.
I am 7 miles from a state forest where I regularly hike my dogs. The paths are maintained And cleared, trail signage put up, and new shelters created largely by the fund raising and volunteer efforts of the “hippies” you disparage, because our state does not provide a lot of funding for park maintenance.
I don't believe a word of this nonsense. It's the whole ignorant male lumberjack stereotype exemplified, except in this case it's a lady screaming "Eek! There's a nasty bug in the woods!" and she's compelled to cut her hair because she got a little tree pitch in it or something.The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, …
Sadly no...debunked conspiracy theory.Yea, it has nothing to do with your Antifa friends:...sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
...sometimes it is easy to overlook the not so obvious...
How much are beetles to blame for 2020 fires?
It’s not just hot, dry conditions and fire suppression that has exacerbated 2020's western fires. There’s also the attack of the beetles to consider.
The photos and news from the past month’s devastating fires across parts of the West—charred towns, dramatic helicopter rescues, apocalyptic skies—have provoked fear, anger, and an understandable search for blame. It’s clear that fires are getting worse. But why? Scientists point to a number of reasons. Hotter and drier conditions brought on by climate change can prime vegetation to burn, and decades of fire suppression have allowed fuel to accumulate in forests. Millions of people now live closer to those dry forests than ever. And then there is the matter of the beetles.
There are 600 species of bark beetles in the United States, and they’ve evolved with their various host trees over millennia. Many bark beetles infest already dead or dying trees, but some, like the mountain pine beetle, attack living ones. The mountain pine beetle alone has killed roughly 100,000 square miles of trees across western North America over the past 20 years, from New Mexico all the way up to northern British Columbia. Climate change has instigated this dramatic spread, by eliminating the cold spells that kill off the beetles and by leaving the trees stressed by drought, unable to defend themselves.
Most people look for the simplest of answers. Especially conspiracy orientated folks who have ONE ANSWER to every problem.. Environmental problems almost NEVER have "one cause".. It's complex.. And in this case, the article is RIGHT ON..
GW is a convenient excuse to IGNORE all the other issues of wildfires. Just like we recently found that coral reefs with a human tourist footprint were dying because of a sunblock ingredient that is deadly in even MINUTE quantities.
MANY countries have similar forest/suburban interfaces like Cali.. And similar droughts and climate and yet THEY don't have our problems.. It's because there's a whole SCIENCE of forest mgt and wilderness mgt that has been tossed out the window because the govt orgs in charge have this imagined vision of NO HUMAN FOOTPRINT in the forests and wilderness.
In addition the things cited in your article, firetrails, fire breaks, infrastructure for forest mgt is BANNED as an option...
Here in Hillbilly Hollywood we have the scourge of Emerald Ash Borers,.. Was just told that ALL my ash trees need to be protected. I've got about 16 of them on the cleared part of my lot.. One already clearly dead -- a couple probably infected. It's gonna rip thru middle tennessee like a wildfire and in the next ten years -- unprotected ash trees will be very rare..
