A Terrible Milestone in the American Presidency: Trump switches sides in the war for freedom

[Polishprince]

Just because President Trump isn't falling for Ukrainian Disinformation, doesn't mean he "hates freedom". I have been Ukrainian disinformation for a while BTW. My brother is married to a Ukrainian chick, and his inlaws are constantly giving disinformation.

 

[gtopa1]

What this guy is doing is trying to shift the blame for Europe NOT funding the Ukes as it should have from the start. It is a EUROPE problem and as long as the Euros FAIL to do the heavy lifting they will not succeed in stopping Putes. What Putes did was wrong on every level, but leaving it to the yanks to mostly foot the bill was just backsliding by Europe. The Ukes will fight to the death for their Country as any of us would..(except Dems of course though White's a vet; he's exempted), but the Euros have to step up!!!

And I agree with Trump on so much BUT if his strategy stops the war PERMANENTLY and recoups the money Biden frittered away and 10 percentered then it will go beyond even my own expectations.

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

Putin didn't start the war. The Obama administration & Joe Biden started the war in Ukraine by staging a coup against the legitimate democratically elected government of Ukraine and replaced it with their corrupt puppets.

Biden is to blame, not Putin.

Everybody in Ukraine already knew that because a recording of the phone call that proved it was leaked just a few weeks before the U.S. staged coup occurred.

That said, I am curious as to how you came to the conclusion that Putin is somehow to blame.

Back one step. The Ukes voted to join the EU; Putin then had the process changed and the people aligned with the opposition to stop the realignment with the Russians. THEN the people revolted and Biden/Bambi went along with it. THEN Putes invaded the Crimea and proxied the Eastern Oblasts. Biden/Bambi were useless props.

This is ALL on Putin!!

Greg

 

[westwall]

‘This week, Donald Trump falsely accused Ukraine of starting a war against a much larger neighbor, inviting invasion and mass death. At this point, Trump—who has a history of trusting Russian President Vladimir Putin more than he trusts the Americans who are sworn to defend the United States—may even believe it. Casting Ukraine as the aggressor (and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as a “dictator,” which Trump did today) makes political sense for Trump, who is innately deferential to Putin, and likely views the conflict as a distraction from his own personal and political agendas. The U.S. president has now chosen to throw America to Putin’s side and is more than willing to see this war end on Russian terms.

Repeating lies, however, does not make them true.

Russia, and specifically Putin, launched this war in 2014 and widened it in 2022. The information and media ecosystem around Trump and the Republican Party has tried for years to submerge the Russian war against Ukraine in a sump of moral relativism, because many in the GOP admire Putin as some sort of Christian strongman. But Putin is making war on a country that is mostly composed of his fellow Orthodox Christians, solely based on his own grandiose fantasies.’

https://archive.li/3gkqS

A terrible milestone and a terrible president; with his lies Trump returns to coddling dictators and attacking allies – in this case Ukraine.

Zelensky has suspended elections. Attacked his opponents. Eliminated free speech, and stolen billions of dollars.

Trump is correct, he's a dictator.

 

[BlackSand]

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Good to know the folks at the Atlantic still value creative writing exercises.
That one has to be worth a pizza party ... And ten extra minutes of recess ...

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[Blisterfinger]

That was not a coup. The great majority of Ukrainians approved of the action.

Trump has now stabbed freedom in the back.

Putin waited until Biden was in office because he knew Biden was weak and beholden. American weakness caused the War, Biden is now profiting from it.

 

[Muhammed]

How I came to the conclusion Putin is to blame?

Is this some parody account?

I don't know, many the lining of 100,000 soldiers and hundreds of tanks and drones firing first into Ukraine and rolling into their territory had something to do with it,

What's your excuse for Putin taking Crimea by the way? That was, when, 2014?

Putin didn't take Crimea.

As expected, after the US staged bloody coup against the legitimate democratically elected government in Kiev, the legitimate democratically elected government in Crimea held a referendum. The Crimean people voted to secede from the Ukrainian dictatorship and join the democratic Russian Federation in a ******* landside as expected.

They overwhelmingly voted for president Yanukovych, and he was ousted in the bloody coup. How would you vote in the referendum to secede if you were in their shoes? Democracy or dictatorship?

 

[Dekster]

‘This week, Donald Trump falsely accused Ukraine of starting a war against a much larger neighbor, inviting invasion and mass death. At this point, Trump—who has a history of trusting Russian President Vladimir Putin more than he trusts the Americans who are sworn to defend the United States—may even believe it. Casting Ukraine as the aggressor (and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as a “dictator,” which Trump did today) makes political sense for Trump, who is innately deferential to Putin, and likely views the conflict as a distraction from his own personal and political agendas. The U.S. president has now chosen to throw America to Putin’s side and is more than willing to see this war end on Russian terms.

Repeating lies, however, does not make them true.

Russia, and specifically Putin, launched this war in 2014 and widened it in 2022. The information and media ecosystem around Trump and the Republican Party has tried for years to submerge the Russian war against Ukraine in a sump of moral relativism, because many in the GOP admire Putin as some sort of Christian strongman. But Putin is making war on a country that is mostly composed of his fellow Orthodox Christians, solely based on his own grandiose fantasies.’

https://archive.li/3gkqS

A terrible milestone and a terrible president; with his lies Trump returns to coddling dictators and attacking allies – in this case Ukraine.

As I have already posted recently, Zelensky is about to be thrown under the bus as part of the Trump-Putin deal when it comes. It is why he isn't being included in the negotiations. He might as well put together a go bag and set up an offshore account in the Cayman Islands.

 

[Muhammed]

Back one step. The Ukes voted to join the EU

Bullshit.

When and where did this alleged vote occur, and what was the final tallly?

I don't expect an answer to that because it's just plain disinformation. You are simply fibbing to the USMB forum again.

Eat a bag of dicks, liar.

 

[Muhammed]

The Ukes will fight to the death for their Country as any of us would.

Is that why they have to kidnap conscripts/slaves to fight? Is that why they guard the border to keep their male adult citizens from leaving?

 

[Muhammed]

That was not a coup. The great majority of Ukrainians approved of the action.

How did you come to that stupid conclusion?

 

[JGalt]

You do realize that your blob created another agency (aka bureaucracy) to--thus far--do nothing except make unproven allegations of fraud...right?

Of course you don't. Enjoy your cult shit brains.

Are you permanently stuck in the Anger stage of the Five Stages of Grief, or is that just PMS?

 

[luiza]

The sooner Americans understand that the US and UK manipulated Zelensky to office through Ihor Kolomoisky the Ukey media billionaire , the better .
A long time CIA asset .
Zelensky was and remains a cocaine guzzling comedian with zero understanding of military strategy .
His standing on all counts is on a par with Biden, who with little doubt was the worst ever US President and internationally a hopeless leader and very bad smelling joke with chronic health problems
The OP as a Troll Bot is just ladling out the same old misinformation to a Gullible audience who in simple terms live out their lives based on Fake News as provided by the likes of the NYT and WaPo .

OP Celia Laydown Bones is not paid to tell you the truth and she most certainly lives up to such a guarantee.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Elect a clown...get a circus.

More like a run down, road side carnival.

 

[22lcidw]

‘This week, Donald Trump falsely accused Ukraine of starting a war against a much larger neighbor, inviting invasion and mass death. At this point, Trump—who has a history of trusting Russian President Vladimir Putin more than he trusts the Americans who are sworn to defend the United States—may even believe it. Casting Ukraine as the aggressor (and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as a “dictator,” which Trump did today) makes political sense for Trump, who is innately deferential to Putin, and likely views the conflict as a distraction from his own personal and political agendas. The U.S. president has now chosen to throw America to Putin’s side and is more than willing to see this war end on Russian terms.

Repeating lies, however, does not make them true.

Russia, and specifically Putin, launched this war in 2014 and widened it in 2022. The information and media ecosystem around Trump and the Republican Party has tried for years to submerge the Russian war against Ukraine in a sump of moral relativism, because many in the GOP admire Putin as some sort of Christian strongman. But Putin is making war on a country that is mostly composed of his fellow Orthodox Christians, solely based on his own grandiose fantasies.’

https://archive.li/3gkqS

A terrible milestone and a terrible president; with his lies Trump returns to coddling dictators and attacking allies – in this case Ukraine.

The surfer in California who was arrested with the Covid agenda from Prog dictums is a reason that tells us all about freedoms. And the oppressors who arrested him and who Republicans support without any reservations is telling.

 

[yidnar]

You simply are wrong.

she always is ..

 

[Ringo]

It is simple - Just like in 1944, U.S. decided it is time to help the winner.

 

[luiza]

This is ALL on Putin!!

Believe that and you match the popular belief that all Australians are fifth rate due to the criminal DNA inherited from their convict forebears.

Sorry , Ooops .
I forgot that Fact Checking showed that actually to be true .

 

[gtopa1]

Believe that and you match the popular belief that all Australians are fifth rate due to the criminal DNA inherited from their convict forebears.

Sorry , Ooops .
I forgot that Fact Checking showed that actually to be true .

OKfine is an Aussie. In his case you are probably correct. My ancestors arrived after the end of the Convict era; the latest from Eastern Europe. We were fantastic at killing Ottomans!!! Not like the "Romantic" Romanians!!!

Greg

 

[luiza]

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And the Ozzies admit to still believing that the best place for a woman is in the kitchen .
Unbelievable but true .

You have to ask --- Who are the more backward ?
Those poorly treated aborigines or those white immigrants with the convict backgrounds ?