A Political and Moral dilemma solved: Homosexuality

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Well, aren't you the cutting edge of intellect?

Sadly, for your would-be argument... What I described was the nature of human civilization, which is intrinsic to human physiology and the perpetuation of the species... wherein the highest probability for such, is through the natural and wholly sustainable human physiological construct, wherein nature designed humanity with two distinct, but complimenting genders; wherein the respective genders were specifically designed for coital union, as a function of the biological imperative to perpetuate the species, wherein the male sexual organs penetrate the female sexual organs... forming one body from two... through which conception is promoted... the consequences of which cause the female to become physically compromised, which is offset by the complimenting traits of the male to tend to her sustenance and security pre-natal and post-natal to assist the female in training the progeny as she nurtures them, until such time that the child matures, establishing them self as a productive member of society... so that they can REPEAT THE PROCESS.

OKA: THE NUCLEUS OF CIVILIZATION.

These being the Incontrovertible Facts of Nature, which you previously assured the reader, that such did not exist. And which you now return to again DENY what is OKA: REALITY.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

How does allowing gays to exist as co-equals with heterosexuals threaten the perpetuation of the human species?

Any sexual deviant can marry any other sexual deviant, as long as they apply for marriage, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE... with a person of the distinct gender.

No discrimination in the laws of marriage, whatsoever.

You feel that such DOES discriminate because to men can't marry each other.

And that's because you refuse to recognize that MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

And that is because the marriage standard PRECLUDES MEN FROM MARRYING MEN, AND WOMEN MARRYING WOMAN, because (Pay close attention here) MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Now the law provides that two men, a goat and a 12 cats can join together incorporate... which provides them with the means to be recognized as ONE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED ENTITY.

Which is NOT MARRIAGE...

Marriage is the legitimate nucleus of civilization... but that is only because it precludes two men from joining together.

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nobody redefined it. Marriage defined as one man and one woman has always been in response to others trying to expand what marriage is, beginning with the 1862 Morril Anti Bigamy law signed by your hero, Abraham Lincoln.

Polygamous marriage predates 1862 by centuries.

Yes... I've just re-read your citation just to be sure... and I find nothing in your citation which requires that equal treatment under the law, forces one citizen to accept demonstrable deceit, as truth.

Just what is this 'deceit?'

When you agree to obey the law, you must obey it. When you agree to serve the public, you must. Thus you cannot claim ignorance to the law when such obedience conflicts with your morality. Sorry.

Um... the deceit is advanced where it is claimed that Sexual Abnormality does not deviate from the human physiological standard, thus is not the consequence of mental disorder, which hold deceit as truth... thus is not a threat to society, ergo, the deviancy establishes a legitimate 'sexuality, which is to say a quasi-third gender, and as such should be provided special protections above the law.

In truth Sexual Abnormality is a consequence of a perversion of reason, which rationalizes that one's own subjective needs supersede the rights of others; that that which is otherwise unacceptable, is acceptable; which rejects soundly reasoned cultural standards which preclude the behavior central to their kink... thus demonstrating the individuals axiomatic rejection of the essential elements required to recognize truth, thus rendering the individual unworthy of trust, ergo, a danger to society.

This is the same perversion of reason which concluded that sound lending principle was unfair... which ultimately crashed the international financial markets. Costing tens of millions of US Citizens their jobs and internationally, hundreds of millions of jobs... . It's the same perversion which rationalizes that paying a person to not work will influence them to seek gainful employment and that illicit drugs should be legalized and that pornography should be readily distributed, where children can have easy access to all of it.

And so on and so forth... .

So yeah... it's a menace... but hey, that IS the Nature of Evil. So it makes sense that it would be.

Does that help?

Abnormal does not does not equate to unacceptable. It's abnormal to have blue eyes. It's abnormal for married couples to only have sex when they're trying to make a baby. It's abnormal now to hunt, since only a fraction of the population do it. It's abnormal to own a handgun, since most people don't.

But it wasn't a wide spread practice until the Mormons came along. Don't get me wrong, I hate the 1862 Morril Anti Bigamy law as much as I hate the president who signed it into law. The wording of it was chilling because it targeted the LDS church by name and selected it for special enforcement and on top of that, it was a huge power grab because the states defined marriage, not the federal government. This is the problem, the now common assumption that federal courts have jurisdiction over state marriage laws. They don't.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You're describing *******. ...

Well, aren't you the cutting edge of intellect?

Sadly, for your would-be argument... What I described was the nature of human civilization, which is intrinsic to human physiology and the perpetuation of the species... wherein the highest probability for such, is through the natural and wholly sustainable human physiological construct, wherein nature designed humanity with two distinct, but complimenting genders; wherein the respective genders were specifically designed for coital union, as a function of the biological imperative to perpetuate the species, wherein the male sexual organs penetrate the female sexual organs... forming one body from two... through which conception is promoted... the consequences of which cause the female to become physically compromised, which is offset by the complimenting traits of the male to tend to her sustenance and security pre-natal and post-natal to assist the female in training the progeny as she nurtures them, until such time that the child matures, establishing them self as a productive member of society... so that they can REPEAT THE PROCESS.

OKA: THE NUCLEUS OF CIVILIZATION.

These being the Incontrovertible Facts of Nature, which you previously assured the reader, that such did not exist. And which you now return to again DENY what is OKA: REALITY.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

How does allowing gays to exist as co-equals with heterosexuals threaten the perpetuation of the human species?

Any sexual deviant can marry any other sexual deviant, as long as they apply for marriage, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE... with a person of the distinct gender.

No discrimination in the laws of marriage, whatsoever.

You feel that such DOES discriminate because to men can't marry each other.

And that's because you refuse to recognize that MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

And that is because the marriage standard PRECLUDES MEN FROM MARRYING MEN, AND WOMEN MARRYING WOMAN, because (Pay close attention here) MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Now the law provides that two men, a goat and a 12 cats can join together incorporate... which provides them with the means to be recognized as ONE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED ENTITY.

Which is NOT MARRIAGE...

Marriage is the legitimate nucleus of civilization... but that is only because it precludes two men from joining together.

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nature... .

Of which you've been informed on this thread alone no less than 25 times.

I realize that you feel that because the lower species fling their feces that such is acceptable behavior for Human beings. But you feel that way because YOU do not possess the higher level of intellect which separates the Human being from the lower species, thus your means to reason is lower.

But in reality, where a human being flings their feces, we beat their ass... slap them in handcuffs, declare them a medical threat, lock their ass up and let medical professionals visit them once a week to fill out a form and move on to the next fruitcake to repeat the process.

Leftists think they descended from crap flinging apes. It really explains a lot of their bizarre behaviors.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Well, aren't you the cutting edge of intellect?

Sadly, for your would-be argument... What I described was the nature of human civilization, which is intrinsic to human physiology and the perpetuation of the species... wherein the highest probability for such, is through the natural and wholly sustainable human physiological construct, wherein nature designed humanity with two distinct, but complimenting genders; wherein the respective genders were specifically designed for coital union, as a function of the biological imperative to perpetuate the species, wherein the male sexual organs penetrate the female sexual organs... forming one body from two... through which conception is promoted... the consequences of which cause the female to become physically compromised, which is offset by the complimenting traits of the male to tend to her sustenance and security pre-natal and post-natal to assist the female in training the progeny as she nurtures them, until such time that the child matures, establishing them self as a productive member of society... so that they can REPEAT THE PROCESS.

OKA: THE NUCLEUS OF CIVILIZATION.

These being the Incontrovertible Facts of Nature, which you previously assured the reader, that such did not exist. And which you now return to again DENY what is OKA: REALITY.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

How does allowing gays to exist as co-equals with heterosexuals threaten the perpetuation of the human species?

Any sexual deviant can marry any other sexual deviant, as long as they apply for marriage, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE... with a person of the distinct gender.

No discrimination in the laws of marriage, whatsoever.

You feel that such DOES discriminate because to men can't marry each other.

And that's because you refuse to recognize that MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

And that is because the marriage standard PRECLUDES MEN FROM MARRYING MEN, AND WOMEN MARRYING WOMAN, because (Pay close attention here) MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Now the law provides that two men, a goat and a 12 cats can join together incorporate... which provides them with the means to be recognized as ONE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED ENTITY.

Which is NOT MARRIAGE...

Marriage is the legitimate nucleus of civilization... but that is only because it precludes two men from joining together.

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nobody redefined it. Marriage defined as one man and one woman has always been in response to others trying to expand what marriage is, beginning with the 1862 Morril Anti Bigamy law signed by your hero, Abraham Lincoln.

Polygamous marriage predates 1862 by centuries.

Yes... I've just re-read your citation just to be sure... and I find nothing in your citation which requires that equal treatment under the law, forces one citizen to accept demonstrable deceit, as truth.

Just what is this 'deceit?'

When you agree to obey the law, you must obey it. When you agree to serve the public, you must. Thus you cannot claim ignorance to the law when such obedience conflicts with your morality. Sorry.

Um... the deceit is advanced where it is claimed that Sexual Abnormality does not deviate from the human physiological standard, thus is not the consequence of mental disorder, which hold deceit as truth... thus is not a threat to society, ergo, the deviancy establishes a legitimate 'sexuality, which is to say a quasi-third gender, and as such should be provided special protections above the law.

In truth Sexual Abnormality is a consequence of a perversion of reason, which rationalizes that one's own subjective needs supersede the rights of others; that that which is otherwise unacceptable, is acceptable; which rejects soundly reasoned cultural standards which preclude the behavior central to their kink... thus demonstrating the individuals axiomatic rejection of the essential elements required to recognize truth, thus rendering the individual unworthy of trust, ergo, a danger to society.

This is the same perversion of reason which concluded that sound lending principle was unfair... which ultimately crashed the international financial markets. Costing tens of millions of US Citizens their jobs and internationally, hundreds of millions of jobs... . It's the same perversion which rationalizes that paying a person to not work will influence them to seek gainful employment and that illicit drugs should be legalized and that pornography should be readily distributed, where children can have easy access to all of it.

And so on and so forth... .

So yeah... it's a menace... but hey, that IS the Nature of Evil. So it makes sense that it would be.

Does that help?

Abnormal does not does not equate to unacceptable. It's abnormal to have blue eyes. It's abnormal for married couples to only have sex when they're trying to make a baby. It's abnormal now to hunt, since only a fraction of the population do it. It's abnormal to own a handgun, since most people don't.

So you lack the means to discern priority?

Blue eyes is abnormal, thus blue eyes equates to every other abnormality such as conjoined twins. So naturally, humanity would therefore be obligated to build everything that a blue-eye'd person is capable of doing, specifically to meet the needs of the conjoined twins, in the event they show up.

(Reader, do you see how these people came to 'believe' that the actuarial lending standards were discriminatory, thus UNFAIR... a premise which inevitably crippled the international financial industry? You should understand, then, that what they're advocating for HERE... makes setting a perverse notion of FAIRNESS... look like a Lego Block, by comparison... in terms of the complexities in unforeseen consequences and the level of any number of catastrophic failures. NEVER ALLOW THOSE OF DISORDERED MINDS ACCESS PUBLIC SPEECH, let alone VOTE. Unsound minds have no such rights.)

 

[NYcarbineer]

You're describing *******. ...

Well, aren't you the cutting edge of intellect?

Sadly, for your would-be argument... What I described was the nature of human civilization, which is intrinsic to human physiology and the perpetuation of the species... wherein the highest probability for such, is through the natural and wholly sustainable human physiological construct, wherein nature designed humanity with two distinct, but complimenting genders; wherein the respective genders were specifically designed for coital union, as a function of the biological imperative to perpetuate the species, wherein the male sexual organs penetrate the female sexual organs... forming one body from two... through which conception is promoted... the consequences of which cause the female to become physically compromised, which is offset by the complimenting traits of the male to tend to her sustenance and security pre-natal and post-natal to assist the female in training the progeny as she nurtures them, until such time that the child matures, establishing them self as a productive member of society... so that they can REPEAT THE PROCESS.

OKA: THE NUCLEUS OF CIVILIZATION.

These being the Incontrovertible Facts of Nature, which you previously assured the reader, that such did not exist. And which you now return to again DENY what is OKA: REALITY.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

How does allowing gays to exist as co-equals with heterosexuals threaten the perpetuation of the human species?

Any sexual deviant can marry any other sexual deviant, as long as they apply for marriage, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE... with a person of the distinct gender.

No discrimination in the laws of marriage, whatsoever.

You feel that such DOES discriminate because to men can't marry each other.

And that's because you refuse to recognize that MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

And that is because the marriage standard PRECLUDES MEN FROM MARRYING MEN, AND WOMEN MARRYING WOMAN, because (Pay close attention here) MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Now the law provides that two men, a goat and a 12 cats can join together incorporate... which provides them with the means to be recognized as ONE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED ENTITY.

Which is NOT MARRIAGE...

Marriage is the legitimate nucleus of civilization... but that is only because it precludes two men from joining together.

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nature... .

Of which you've been informed on this thread alone no less than 25 times.

I realize that you feel that because the lower species fling their feces that such is acceptable behavior for Human beings. But you feel that way because YOU do not possess the higher level of intellect which separates the Human being from the lower species, thus your means to reason is lower.

But in reality, where a human being flings their feces, we beat their ass... slap them in handcuffs, declare them a medical threat, lock their ass up and let medical professionals visit them once a week to fill out a form and move on to the next fruitcake to repeat the process.

"Nature" defines humans as one of the primate species. "Nature" never defined monogamous marriage between one male human and one female human as the sole form of marriage.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution The Columbian That makes gay marriage officially a Christian institution.

So do Satan Worshippers. But that's because there's virtually no distinction between Satan Worshippers, Humanists and Presbyterians.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Well, aren't you the cutting edge of intellect?

Sadly, for your would-be argument... What I described was the nature of human civilization, which is intrinsic to human physiology and the perpetuation of the species... wherein the highest probability for such, is through the natural and wholly sustainable human physiological construct, wherein nature designed humanity with two distinct, but complimenting genders; wherein the respective genders were specifically designed for coital union, as a function of the biological imperative to perpetuate the species, wherein the male sexual organs penetrate the female sexual organs... forming one body from two... through which conception is promoted... the consequences of which cause the female to become physically compromised, which is offset by the complimenting traits of the male to tend to her sustenance and security pre-natal and post-natal to assist the female in training the progeny as she nurtures them, until such time that the child matures, establishing them self as a productive member of society... so that they can REPEAT THE PROCESS.

OKA: THE NUCLEUS OF CIVILIZATION.

These being the Incontrovertible Facts of Nature, which you previously assured the reader, that such did not exist. And which you now return to again DENY what is OKA: REALITY.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

How does allowing gays to exist as co-equals with heterosexuals threaten the perpetuation of the human species?

Any sexual deviant can marry any other sexual deviant, as long as they apply for marriage, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE... with a person of the distinct gender.

No discrimination in the laws of marriage, whatsoever.

You feel that such DOES discriminate because to men can't marry each other.

And that's because you refuse to recognize that MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

And that is because the marriage standard PRECLUDES MEN FROM MARRYING MEN, AND WOMEN MARRYING WOMAN, because (Pay close attention here) MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Now the law provides that two men, a goat and a 12 cats can join together incorporate... which provides them with the means to be recognized as ONE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED ENTITY.

Which is NOT MARRIAGE...

Marriage is the legitimate nucleus of civilization... but that is only because it precludes two men from joining together.

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nature... .

Of which you've been informed on this thread alone no less than 25 times.

I realize that you feel that because the lower species fling their feces that such is acceptable behavior for Human beings. But you feel that way because YOU do not possess the higher level of intellect which separates the Human being from the lower species, thus your means to reason is lower.

But in reality, where a human being flings their feces, we beat their ass... slap them in handcuffs, declare them a medical threat, lock their ass up and let medical professionals visit them once a week to fill out a form and move on to the next fruitcake to repeat the process.

Leftists think they descended from crap flinging apes. It really explains a lot of their bizarre behaviors.

Do you deny that the Bible recognizes polygamous marriage as marriage?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

How does allowing gays to exist as co-equals with heterosexuals threaten the perpetuation of the human species?

Any sexual deviant can marry any other sexual deviant, as long as they apply for marriage, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE... with a person of the distinct gender.

No discrimination in the laws of marriage, whatsoever.

You feel that such DOES discriminate because to men can't marry each other.

And that's because you refuse to recognize that MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

And that is because the marriage standard PRECLUDES MEN FROM MARRYING MEN, AND WOMEN MARRYING WOMAN, because (Pay close attention here) MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Now the law provides that two men, a goat and a 12 cats can join together incorporate... which provides them with the means to be recognized as ONE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED ENTITY.

Which is NOT MARRIAGE...

Marriage is the legitimate nucleus of civilization... but that is only because it precludes two men from joining together.

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nature... .

Of which you've been informed on this thread alone no less than 25 times.

I realize that you feel that because the lower species fling their feces that such is acceptable behavior for Human beings. But you feel that way because YOU do not possess the higher level of intellect which separates the Human being from the lower species, thus your means to reason is lower.

But in reality, where a human being flings their feces, we beat their ass... slap them in handcuffs, declare them a medical threat, lock their ass up and let medical professionals visit them once a week to fill out a form and move on to the next fruitcake to repeat the process.

Leftists think they descended from crap flinging apes. It really explains a lot of their bizarre behaviors.

Do you deny that the Bible recognizes polygamous marriage as marriage?

Yes I do. The Bible records it happening but never once has God condoning it, even when done by his servants.

God also doesn't condone slavery, in case you were about to ask.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Christians are commanded to love everyone. If you love someone, and they are engaged in an activity that can potentially separate them from God for all eternity, aren't you required to guide them to the truth? To allow them to continue to practice what God has condemned is not love; it's avoiding your responsibility.

It's interesting to consider Romans 1:18 - 32. Homosexuality and lesbianism are not condemned in these passages. These practices are condemned elsewhere in the Bible. In these verses, homosexuality and lesbianism are the punishment for not acknowledging God as creator and Lord. God "gave them over" to their own destructive practices because they rejected His truth. They chose to follow man's ways, not God's ways.

Speak and apply God's truth in love. This will resolve your moral and political dilemma.

What you typed applies to christians and only those christians who actually buy it.

I'm not christian. Millions of other Americans aren't christian.

Live your life as you want. Be as christian as you want.

What you aren't allowed to do is force your christian beliefs on anyone else.

So stop doing it.

And the vast majority of gay Americans are Christian, where there's clearly no consensus among Christians that their faith 'condemns' homosexuality.

If Christians themselves are in disagreement and conflict over the issue, they're clearly in no position to compel others to abide by a dogma of hate and ignorance.

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution The Columbian

That makes gay marriage officially a Christian institution.

So do Satan Worshippers. But that's because there's virtually no distinction between the two.

So where do you derive the authority to declare Presbyterians to not be Christians?

I don't think you'll get very far trying to abolish Presbyterianism in America and exclude it from constitutional protection just because you don't like their constitution.

But hey, entertain us and try.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Any sexual deviant can marry any other sexual deviant, as long as they apply for marriage, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE... with a person of the distinct gender.

No discrimination in the laws of marriage, whatsoever.

You feel that such DOES discriminate because to men can't marry each other.

And that's because you refuse to recognize that MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

And that is because the marriage standard PRECLUDES MEN FROM MARRYING MEN, AND WOMEN MARRYING WOMAN, because (Pay close attention here) MARRIAGE: IS THE JOINING OF ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Now the law provides that two men, a goat and a 12 cats can join together incorporate... which provides them with the means to be recognized as ONE LEGALLY RECOGNIZED ENTITY.

Which is NOT MARRIAGE...

Marriage is the legitimate nucleus of civilization... but that is only because it precludes two men from joining together.

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nature... .

Of which you've been informed on this thread alone no less than 25 times.

I realize that you feel that because the lower species fling their feces that such is acceptable behavior for Human beings. But you feel that way because YOU do not possess the higher level of intellect which separates the Human being from the lower species, thus your means to reason is lower.

But in reality, where a human being flings their feces, we beat their ass... slap them in handcuffs, declare them a medical threat, lock their ass up and let medical professionals visit them once a week to fill out a form and move on to the next fruitcake to repeat the process.

Leftists think they descended from crap flinging apes. It really explains a lot of their bizarre behaviors.

Do you deny that the Bible recognizes polygamous marriage as marriage?

Yes I do. The Bible records it happening but never once has God condoning it, even when done by his servants.

God also doesn't condone slavery, in case you were about to ask.

I'm pretty sure the Book of Mormon contains God's approval of polygamy quite explicitly.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

"Nature" defines humans as one of the primate species."

Well Reader, you heard it here FIRST!

The Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality equates Humanity to Primates!

Does that help you understand the nature of the PROGRESSIVE?

They have managed to PROGRESS HUMANITY TO EQUAL STATUS WITH THE MONKEY!

Explains a LOT doesn't it?

Certainly from that you should have a better understanding of "FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!" now.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You never answered the question.

btw. How can marriage be only defined as one man one woman if polygamous marriage exists and has probably existed as long as one man one woman marriage has?

Who redefined marriage as only opposite sex monogamy?

Nature... .

Of which you've been informed on this thread alone no less than 25 times.

I realize that you feel that because the lower species fling their feces that such is acceptable behavior for Human beings. But you feel that way because YOU do not possess the higher level of intellect which separates the Human being from the lower species, thus your means to reason is lower.

But in reality, where a human being flings their feces, we beat their ass... slap them in handcuffs, declare them a medical threat, lock their ass up and let medical professionals visit them once a week to fill out a form and move on to the next fruitcake to repeat the process.

Leftists think they descended from crap flinging apes. It really explains a lot of their bizarre behaviors.

Do you deny that the Bible recognizes polygamous marriage as marriage?

Yes I do. The Bible records it happening but never once has God condoning it, even when done by his servants.

God also doesn't condone slavery, in case you were about to ask.

I'm pretty sure the Book of Mormon contains God's approval of polygamy quite explicitly.

The Book of Mormon was written fraudulently by a con artist and doesn't contain events that actually happened. There's no comparison to the Bible.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Christians are commanded to love everyone. If you love someone, and they are engaged in an activity that can potentially separate them from God for all eternity, aren't you required to guide them to the truth? To allow them to continue to practice what God has condemned is not love; it's avoiding your responsibility.

It's interesting to consider Romans 1:18 - 32. Homosexuality and lesbianism are not condemned in these passages. These practices are condemned elsewhere in the Bible. In these verses, homosexuality and lesbianism are the punishment for not acknowledging God as creator and Lord. God "gave them over" to their own destructive practices because they rejected His truth. They chose to follow man's ways, not God's ways.

Speak and apply God's truth in love. This will resolve your moral and political dilemma.

What you typed applies to christians and only those christians who actually buy it.

I'm not christian. Millions of other Americans aren't christian.

Live your life as you want. Be as christian as you want.

What you aren't allowed to do is force your christian beliefs on anyone else.

So stop doing it.

And the vast majority of gay Americans are Christian, where there's clearly no consensus among Christians that their faith 'condemns' homosexuality.

If Christians themselves are in disagreement and conflict over the issue, they're clearly in no position to compel others to abide by a dogma of hate and ignorance.

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution The Columbian

That makes gay marriage officially a Christian institution.

Absent consensus, Christians have no 'argument' their faith 'condemns' homosexuality.

Of course, Christian denominations remain at liberty to interpret their faith as they see fit, as has been the Christian tradition for more than 500 years; but no Christian is in a position to admonish a fellow Christian whose denomination affords marriage to same-sex couples as a 'heretic,' nor may Christians seek to use their faith as an 'exemption' from just and proper secular laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

So where do you derive the authority to declare Presbyterians to not be Christians?

From Nature... who endowed upon me the means to reason. Such that where Evil is being accepted, I can know to a certainty that such fruit is not born by that which represents good. "Ye shall know them by their fruits...".

It's the same authority used to declare that a banana is not an orange.

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[NYcarbineer]

Nature... .

Of which you've been informed on this thread alone no less than 25 times.

I realize that you feel that because the lower species fling their feces that such is acceptable behavior for Human beings. But you feel that way because YOU do not possess the higher level of intellect which separates the Human being from the lower species, thus your means to reason is lower.

But in reality, where a human being flings their feces, we beat their ass... slap them in handcuffs, declare them a medical threat, lock their ass up and let medical professionals visit them once a week to fill out a form and move on to the next fruitcake to repeat the process.

Leftists think they descended from crap flinging apes. It really explains a lot of their bizarre behaviors.

Do you deny that the Bible recognizes polygamous marriage as marriage?

Yes I do. The Bible records it happening but never once has God condoning it, even when done by his servants.

God also doesn't condone slavery, in case you were about to ask.

I'm pretty sure the Book of Mormon contains God's approval of polygamy quite explicitly.

The Book of Mormon was written fraudulently by a con artist and doesn't contain events that actually happened. There's no comparison to the Bible.

Aha. So you concede that 'holy books' cannot be trusted.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So where do you derive the authority to declare Presbyterians to not be Christians?

From Nature... who endowed t me the means to reason. Such that where Evil is being accepted, I can know to a certainty that such fruit is not born by that which represents good. "Ye shall know them by their fruits...".

It's the same authority used to declare that a banana is not an orange.

I don't think ...

On that we can agree.

(Reader, ya see? Even a blind nut finds a squirrel now and then.)

Nature has nothing to do with it. You even admitted that.

 

[Truth2Know]

Christians are commanded to love everyone. If you love someone, and they are engaged in an activity that can potentially separate them from God for all eternity, aren't you required to guide them to the truth? To allow them to continue to practice what God has condemned is not love; it's avoiding your responsibility.

It's interesting to consider Romans 1:18 - 32. Homosexuality and lesbianism are not condemned in these passages. These practices are condemned elsewhere in the Bible. In these verses, homosexuality and lesbianism are the punishment for not acknowledging God as creator and Lord. God "gave them over" to their own destructive practices because they rejected His truth. They chose to follow man's ways, not God's ways.

Speak and apply God's truth in love. This will resolve your moral and political dilemma.

What you typed applies to christians and only those christians who actually buy it.

I'm not christian. Millions of other Americans aren't christian.

Live your life as you want. Be as christian as you want.

What you aren't allowed to do is force your christian beliefs on anyone else.

So stop doing it.

God's laws apply to everyone, Christian or not. The intent on sharing this information is to give people the opportunity to escape futile, Godless thinking and submit to the God of all truth.

God's salvation is open to all the Holy Spirit calls. This includes liars, murders, drunks, adulterers, and others who violate God's commands. Who does not have sin? This is why Christ came to pay the price for ALL sin. What we need to do is accept this free gift.

Will accepting Christ make it so you obey all laws: God's, Constitutional, moral, natural, etc.? No, this is impossible for people to do. But it will change your eternal destination.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Absent consensus, Christians have no 'argument' their faith 'condemns' homosexuality.

Of course, Christian denominations remain at liberty to interpret their faith as they see fit, as has been the Christian tradition for more than 500 years; but no Christian is in a position to admonish a fellow Christian whose denomination affords marriage to same-sex couples as a 'heretic,' nor may Christians seek to use their faith as an 'exemption' from just and proper secular laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Heretic?

Well, Christ said that those who harm children would be better off tying themselves to a millstone and throwing that into the depths of the sea... and sexual abnormality explicitly preys upon children.

So.. accepting such, is heresy.

And as a Christian, I just declared such to be heresy, therefore, it turns out the clueless barrister is demonstrated to be DEAD-WRONG... again.

See how easy that is?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Nature has nothing to do with it. You even admitted that.

Nature has nothing to do with human physiological design?

LOL!

(Reader... You should probably go at this point. There's nothing remaining of this cult's argument except for them to repeat the endless litany of idiocy. But you should now have a firm understanding of the abyss of evil that this cult represents. And that's all that the exercise is designed to demonstrate. It just gets rather sad from here on out.)

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Christians are commanded to love everyone. If you love someone, and they are engaged in an activity that can potentially separate them from God for all eternity, aren't you required to guide them to the truth? To allow them to continue to practice what God has condemned is not love; it's avoiding your responsibility.

It's interesting to consider Romans 1:18 - 32. Homosexuality and lesbianism are not condemned in these passages. These practices are condemned elsewhere in the Bible. In these verses, homosexuality and lesbianism are the punishment for not acknowledging God as creator and Lord. God "gave them over" to their own destructive practices because they rejected His truth. They chose to follow man's ways, not God's ways.

Speak and apply God's truth in love. This will resolve your moral and political dilemma.

What you typed applies to christians and only those christians who actually buy it.

I'm not christian. Millions of other Americans aren't christian.

Live your life as you want. Be as christian as you want.

What you aren't allowed to do is force your christian beliefs on anyone else.

So stop doing it.

And the vast majority of gay Americans are Christian, where there's clearly no consensus among Christians that their faith 'condemns' homosexuality.

If Christians themselves are in disagreement and conflict over the issue, they're clearly in no position to compel others to abide by a dogma of hate and ignorance.

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in constitution The Columbian

That makes gay marriage officially a Christian institution.

Absent consensus, Christians have no 'argument' their faith 'condemns' homosexuality.

Of course, Christian denominations remain at liberty to interpret their faith as they see fit, as has been the Christian tradition for more than 500 years; but no Christian is in a position to admonish a fellow Christian whose denomination affords marriage to same-sex couples as a 'heretic,' nor may Christians seek to use their faith as an 'exemption' from just and proper secular laws prohibiting discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Absolute nonsense. The Christian Church has condemned homosexuality from the very beginning, and such condemnation cannot be done away with "but some disagree". Your hero, Abraham Lincoln Über Alles once famously said concerning God's view on slavery, "God cannot be both for and against something". Even though he was a power hungry dictator and a murderous psychopath, he was right about that. God has made is law clear on homosexuality, beastiality, cross dressing, and every other abomination celebrated on the Left. Those who oppose the righteousness of God, even if they call themselves "christian", cannot undo the law of God through their refusal to abide by it.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Leftists think they descended from crap flinging apes. It really explains a lot of their bizarre behaviors.

Do you deny that the Bible recognizes polygamous marriage as marriage?

Yes I do. The Bible records it happening but never once has God condoning it, even when done by his servants.

God also doesn't condone slavery, in case you were about to ask.

I'm pretty sure the Book of Mormon contains God's approval of polygamy quite explicitly.

The Book of Mormon was written fraudulently by a con artist and doesn't contain events that actually happened. There's no comparison to the Bible.

Aha. So you concede that 'holy books' cannot be trusted.

The BOM is not a holy book, as I just explained, bonehead.