A Plea to Atheists: Pedophilia is next on the Slippery Slope . . .

[martybegan]

That's your sensitivity training showing. I'm not going to apologize for your choice to be offended.

You dont have to. It still doesnt change the fact that calling religous texts "fairy tales" is being an asshole.

In your opinion.

Not just mine. Calling religon fairy tales will make many people consider you an asshole.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

I told you why violence is evil or wrong, because it impedes the reproduction of our species, one of the very basic survival instincts. And, being the very intelligent species that we are, over time we have gathered, through said intelligence combined with said survival instinct (source: Nature) the most (or close to the most) ideal cohabitation norms. now, violence to stop impending GREATER violence is an analytical choice. We can perform said analysis because of our evolved brains.

But you didn't tell me why violence is evil or wrong. In fact, you went on to say that violence may be employed to prevent greater violence, whatever that means. Hence, violence is clearly not evil or wrong in and of itself. Violence is a tool, a function of morality. What is the underlying moral precept telling us when violence serves morality and when it doesn't?

 

[uscitizen]

The most rational thing to do is assume Singer speaks for all atheists.

Perhaps he is speaking for a sect of the Morman church?

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

I told you why violence is evil or wrong, because it impedes the reproduction of our species, one of the very basic survival instincts. And, being the very intelligent species that we are, over time we have gathered, through said intelligence combined with said survival instinct (source: Nature) the most (or close to the most) ideal cohabitation norms. now, violence to stop impending GREATER violence is an analytical choice. We can perform said analysis because of our evolved brains.

But you didn't tell me why violence is evil or wrong. In fact, you went on to say that violence may be employed to prevent greater violence, whatever that means. Hence, violence is clearly not evil or wrong in and of itself. Violence is a tool, a function of morality. What is the underlying moral precept telling us when violence serves morality and when it doesn't?

I-N-S-T-I-N-C-T & i-n-t-e-l-l-i-g-e-n-c-e, are how we come to the underlying moral precepts. I said that already. You didn't comprehend.


The underlying tools are instinct and intelligence.

Saying that instinct or intelligence is the source of morality explains nothing; you're merely giving us the means of calculation. If that be the case, morality is relative and not quantifiable in any absolute sense. Do you comprehend that?

 

[Avatar9]

Where in the bible does it say to kill unbelievers?

The Dark Bible: Atrocities

Perhaps you should have taken the time to familiarize yourself with the subject beforehand?

In your second point, that would never happen

Why not? Catholic priests are already 10 times more likely to molest your son than the general populace as it is and they all listened when the pope told them to kill all the Muslims, go to war against the Protestants, and and give the church a bunch of money.

And the current pope is already known to be a protector of pedophile priests.

Churches give a moral compass, it is up to people to follow it or not.

Then they don't get their morals from religion as was originally claimed, but only their ethical condemnations of certain acts when in public.

 

[Avatar9]

I told you why violence is evil or wrong, because it impedes the reproduction of our species, one of the very basic survival instincts. And, being the very intelligent species that we are, over time we have gathered, through said intelligence combined with said survival instinct (source: Nature) the most (or close to the most) ideal cohabitation norms. now, violence to stop impending GREATER violence is an analytical choice. We can perform said analysis because of our evolved brains.

But you didn't tell me why violence is evil or wrong. I

Instinct does not recognize any such concepts, only the whether the outcome is beneficial or not.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Neither Warren Jeff nor generations of pedophile priests are atheist.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

I-N-S-T-I-N-C-T & i-n-t-e-l-l-i-g-e-n-c-e, are how we come to the underlying moral precepts. I said that already. You didn't comprehend.


The underlying tools are instinct and intelligence.

Saying that instinct or intelligence is the source of morality explains nothing; you're merely giving us the means of calculation. If that be the case, morality is relative and not quantifiable in any absolute sense. Do you comprehend that?

It's not absolute only because we're not at the peak of intelligence, whatever that may be.

But you just asserted an absolute, though it be inherently contradictory and therefore irrational: there are no absolutes except the absolute that there are no absolutes. . . .

Funny, objectively speaking, whether it be ultimately the case or not, no such reductio ad absurdum arises to overthrow the assertion that truth or morality must be grounded in a universal absolute.

We CONTINUE to evolve and become more intelligent. . . .

Oh? There's nothing in evolutionary theory that holds that species necessarily become more intelligent over time, and greater intelligence does not necessarily make for more ethically enlightened persons.

We continue to discover that some of our umm, more draconian morals, are not moral afterall. We come to that conclusion by using our intelligence and instincts to their current capacities.

We do? How ya figure that?

 

[nitroz]

A plea to the religious folks: Don't you dare tell us what to do until you fix your priest sex scandals, pope sex scandals, the polygamy fiasco, etc (all under religion.).
Until you address and fix every single one of these problems, **** OFF!

 

[NGSamson]

Morals don't come from Religion.

Yes they do, it depends on the person. A devout catholic takes thier cues on morality from Catholic doctrine. Where else would they get it from?

Catholics and Morals....at this time, not the best example.

Wonder if thees guys were catholic ?

Jesse Dirkhising | Newsnet 14

Jesse Dirkhising

13 year old Arkansas boy abducted and raped to death by 2 homosexuals

BENTONVILLE — Rope bound Jesse Dirkhising’s hands to the ends of a baseball bat, and duct tape secured his mouth, which had a pair of underwear shoved inside.

Joshua Macabe Brown propped pillows under the 13-year-old’s midsection and sodomized him with several items, Benton County Prosecuting Attorney Bob Balfe said Wednesday during opening statements in Brown’s capital murder and rape trial.