A historical film on hitler

[JakeStarkey]

Reported for trolling. Answer the questions, bigreb.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The History Place - Rise of Hitler The 25 Points of Hitler s Nazi Party
Sounds like a socialist to me
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Reported for trolling. Answer the questions, bigreb.

Coward can't handle the question so he got to report them. Did you report your own trolling?

 

[JakeStarkey]

You don't get to troll.

That is what you did last time, and I am sure you remember what happens when you do.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc has failed the thread, yet once again.

He tried to change the OP, but I would not let him. That's over.

Hitler used the SS to kill off the SA socialists.

Hitler killed or imprisoned the socialists and communists in Germany.

Hitler had the socialists in the leadership of the Party killed.

Hitler was an opportunist who killed anyone who opposed him.

I am glad to see bigrebnc back down. It is good for him to admit when he is beaten.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Reported for spamming.

Address the questions, and if you do it honestly, you know Hitler was not a socialist.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Reported for spamming.

Address the questions, and if you do it honestly, you know Hitler was not a socialist.

Dumb ass you just spamed yourself twice this post and the last post you made.
You think it's a good defense that keeps you from answering a question it's not just makes you look ignorant.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The question is: Hiter was a socialist, yeah? And I noted correctly that he killed them all, and I will add that no business was nationalized, and the workers and unions supported him.

All true, my little spammer troll. Time for you to leave the Board forever. You have not been here for long chunks of the last several years, so you can do without it period, yeah? Give you time for therapy.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc, the OP was about the film, which led to whether was a socialist.

We have clearly and convincingly demonstrated he was not.

Show me where the industries were nationalized?

Give me five, please.

Reported for spamming again.

 

[JakeStarkey]

How did support from big business help Hitler

Hitler helped the capitalists

support from big businesses helped because they funded Hitler for the propaganda that he used which was one of the main causes to him become chancellor and then dictator. Also Hitler gained supporters from big businesses allowing him to advertise and use their shops or other businesses for advertising and selling of merchandise. this was due the the business men having various shops or businesses spread all over Germany. This in turn spread the word around of Hitler and gained him many supporters.

 

[JakeStarkey]

So we have seen that bigreb can only spam, which is reported every time.

We have seen that Hitler killed socialists, worked with big business, not of industry was nationalized, so on, and so forth, and all bigrebnc can do is spam.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigreb continues to spam

That Hitler wasn't a socialist became apparent within weeks of becoming Chancellor of Germany when he started arresting socialists and communists. He did this, claim some, because they were competing brands of socialism. But that doesn't explain why Hitler defined his politics so absolutely as a war on Bolshevism – a pledge that won him the support of the middle-classes, industrialists and many foreign conservatives.

Hitler wasn t a socialist. Stop saying he was 8211 Telegraph Blogs

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigrebnc continues to spam the same material as new evidence is continually posted to rebut his nonsense

New Statesman Don t ever call Hitler a socialist

Anyone who has studied Hitler’s rise to power knows he was no socialist. He was an opportunist, even a political schizophrenic. Which served him well, because in a Weimar Republic struggling – and failing catastrophically – to come to terms with military humiliation, a crisis of national identity and an economic implosion, ideology was a moveable feast. Indeed, it was so moveable, it opened the door to Hitler’s rise to power. “Who cares what he thinks?” Germany said to herself. “He’ll do for now.”

Pin the ideology on the Führer is a fun game. Actually, it’s quite a tasteless game. But we can all play it. “The government will not protect the economic interests of the German people by the circuitous method of an economic bureaucracy to be organised by the state, but by the utmost furtherance of private initiative and by the recognition of the rights of property,” Hitler told the Reichstag in 1933. Not exactly the words of a man about to break into a rendition of “The Red Flag”.

 

[kiwiman127]

bigrebnc, you are wrong on this: naziism and socialism are not the same system at all. Please, study the history of the party and of Hitler and of the interactions of party elements and the leadership, including Hitler. The right wing in the party won, Hitler persecuted and killed communists and social democrats, and the corporatists took over.

What does nazi mean? And your point hitler kill other socialist? Since wen did it matter to any dictator who he killed?

Well bigrebnc, what does a wolf in sheep's clothing mean? How about claiming to be a uniter but actions translate to being a divider? How about "hope and change" but in the end "hope" turns to despair? How about using the word socialist in renaming the party and being a socialist when your actions say the opposite. Wouldn't all this correlate with your contention, "Since wen did it matter to any dictator who he killed?" Since when did it matter to any dictator to portray themselves to be one thing, when in fact they are the opposite. Many dictatorships used deception and manipulation to gain power. All one has to do is watch all the political ads to see tons of deception. It's a common tool to gain power, it always has been.
Hitler used the word "socialist" but his factual actions prove that using "socialist" was a calculated deception.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The History Place - Rise of Hitler The 25 Points of Hitler s Nazi Party
Sounds like a socialist to me
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

We don't need it posted 50 times

 

[kiwiman127]

"Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators Yes or no" -bigrebnc

I don't know about that, history shows that promising democracy has been used many, many times by dictators-to-be.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The History Place - Rise of Hitler The 25 Points of Hitler s Nazi Party
Sounds like a socialist to me
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

We don't need it posted 50 times

Tell that fucking shit to starkey or fuck off.
Don't come telling me not to do something when a fucking turd like starkey is doing the same god damn thing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigrebnc continues to spam the same material as new evidence is continually posted to rebut his nonsense

New Statesman Don t ever call Hitler a socialist

Anyone who has studied Hitler’s rise to power knows he was no socialist. He was an opportunist, even a political schizophrenic. Which served him well, because in a Weimar Republic struggling – and failing catastrophically – to come to terms with military humiliation, a crisis of national identity and an economic implosion, ideology was a moveable feast. Indeed, it was so moveable, it opened the door to Hitler’s rise to power. “Who cares what he thinks?” Germany said to herself. “He’ll do for now.”

Pin the ideology on the Führer is a fun game. Actually, it’s quite a tasteless game. But we can all play it. “The government will not protect the economic interests of the German people by the circuitous method of an economic bureaucracy to be organised by the state, but by the utmost furtherance of private initiative and by the recognition of the rights of property,” Hitler told the Reichstag in 1933. Not exactly the words of a man about to break into a rendition of “The Red Flag”.

http://rothsinn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/snickers-bar.jpg
Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party Yes or no
He used socialist to gain power then he killed the leaders of the party. Yes or no
Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators Yes or no
Nazi means National Socialist German Workers Party yes or no

 

[bigrebnc1775]

"Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators Yes or no" -bigrebnc

I don't know about that, history shows that promising democracy has been used many, many times by dictators-to-be.

What's to question it is a historical fact all the famous dictators used it.

 

[irosie91]

bigrebnc continues to spam the same material as new evidence is continually posted to rebut his nonsense

New Statesman Don t ever call Hitler a socialist

Anyone who has studied Hitler’s rise to power knows he was no socialist. He was an opportunist, even a political schizophrenic. Which served him well, because in a Weimar Republic struggling – and failing catastrophically – to come to terms with military humiliation, a crisis of national identity and an economic implosion, ideology was a moveable feast. Indeed, it was so moveable, it opened the door to Hitler’s rise to power. “Who cares what he thinks?” Germany said to herself. “He’ll do for now.”

Pin the ideology on the Führer is a fun game. Actually, it’s quite a tasteless game. But we can all play it. “The government will not protect the economic interests of the German people by the circuitous method of an economic bureaucracy to be organised by the state, but by the utmost furtherance of private initiative and by the recognition of the rights of property,” Hitler told the Reichstag in 1933. Not exactly the words of a man about to break into a rendition of “The Red Flag”.

http://rothsinn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/snickers-bar.jpg
Hitler was the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party Yes or no
He used socialist to gain power then he killed the leaders of the party. Yes or no
Socialism is a preferred system that creates dictators Yes or no
Nazi means National Socialist German Workers Party yes or no

for the record----BAATHISM is arab nationalist SOCIALIST ideology----
Gamal Abdul Nasser was a BAATHIST----his agenda was ---actually
CALIPHATE (UAR united arab republic) He managed to knock
off the Egyptian army ----sacrificed to his glorious ambitions..
the islamo Nazi hero SADAAM HUSSEIN was also a BAATHIST----
also a caliphatist and murderer. ------The Bashar bastards---also
BAATHISTS-----------and then there was AL HUSSEINI ----Adolf's pal,

One of the most fave books of Baathists is MEIN KAMPF