A historian shows how the real neo-Nazis are the DEMOCRATS

[DStar777]

It was proven in court. The documents Trump provided were false.

You mean a corrupt prosecutor and judge claimed it was false?? Ok. Everyone needs to watch this then:

 

[Marener]

You mean a corrupt prosecutor and judge claimed it was false?? Ok. Everyone needs to watch this then:

The judge determined it was false after reviewing the evidence. The basis of the appeal is that the false documents shouldn't matter.

 

[DStar777]

Sonland confirmed there was a quid pro quo with regard to a presidential meeting.

Uh huh... sure.. and the testimony before congress? You are ignoring that.

Do you think Trump paused the aid at the exact same time for some other unrelated reason? That would defy logic.

Quote from the summary of the call where Trump threatened to withold aid if Zelensky didn't do what Trump asked. I'll wait.

 

[Independent thinker]

While Kamala Harris likens Trump to Hitler and the Left accuses his supporters of being Nazis, a historian shows why it is the Democrats’ actions that make them the ones who resemble Nazis. Their strategies and tactics are right out of Nazi Germany.

The linked article, by a historian, examines how Hitler took control of Germany and the similarities to the Democrats of today. These include: 1) throwing out election laws, 2) censoring the media, 3) lawfare, 4) a false claim of insurrection, and 5) thugs allowed to commit violence while police ordered to stand down.

Literally Hitler? A Historian Examines Democrat Accusations Against Trump and the GOP

Ever since Trump first ran for president, a central theme among Democrats and the media has been that Trump is literally Hitler, and his supporters -- namely, Republicans -- are literally Nazis. This has gone viral in the 2024 campaign featuring the ...

www.americanthinker.com

I was going to post something very similar from an article which breaks down Harris and Democrats calling Trump a Fascist and a historian breaking down what a Fascist really is and how it applies more to the left than it does to Trump.

 

[DukeU]

Kelly correctly pointed out that the generals are loyal to the constitution, not the president.

This was upsetting to Trump.

It was upsetting to obama too.

So, he just got rid of them when he was president.

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years​

 

[Marener]

Uh huh... sure.. and the testimony before congress? You are ignoring that.

That was Sonland's testimony. There was a quid pro quo for the presidential visit.

Read the full text of Gordon Sondland's opening statement in impeachment hearing

In his opening statement, the U.S. ambassador said, "Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky."

www.usatoday.com

Quote from the summary of the call where Trump threatened to withold aid if Zelensky didn't do what Trump asked. I'll wait.

It wasn't stated, but it certainly would have been understood as such. There was no other rational explanation for the hold on the aid, which wasn't even legal.

 

[Marener]

It was upsetting to obama too.

So, he just got rid of them when he was president.

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years​

Your provides no substantiation of this being upsetting to Obama.

 

[DStar777]

That was Sonland's testimony. There was a quid pro quo for the presidential visit.

Yes, that IS what he said.. until he was questioned about his knowledge of the call and admitted he had NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what was said on the call. He was NOT an eyewitness.

It wasn't stated

Thank you.

but it certainly would have been understood as such

That's the Leftist narrative.. however as I showed in a previous post, President Zelensky said that Trump did NOT pressure him to investigate Biden's son:

Ukrainian President Denies President Trump Pressured Him

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky denied that the Trump had pressured him to investigate 2020 presidential candidate Joe Biden's son for corruption.

time.com

and.. Zelensky got the weapons he needed:

https://thehill.com/policy/international/365906-trump-administration-approves-lethal-arms-sales-to-ukraine/

.. which is part of the reason Russia did NOT invade Ukraine when Trump was President.

 

[Marener]

Yes, that IS what he said.. until he was questioned about his knowledge of the call and admitted he had NO FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE of what was said on the call. He was NOT an eyewitness.

He had first hand knowledge from Giuliani. You're conflating two different issues.

Thank you.

Of course. I never stated otherwise.

That's the Leftist narrative.. however as I showed in a previous post, President Zelensky said that Trump did NOT pressure him to investigate Biden's son:

Zelensky would be foolish to contradict Trump at a time when he was completely dependent on him. His statement should be treated with suspicion, especially in light of the contradictory evidence.

There remains no credible explanation for why the aid was held up at the exact same time that we know Trump was looking for a quid pro quo with regard to a white house meeting.

and.. Zelensky got the weapons he needed:

This article from years earlier is irrelevant to the issue of weapons in 2019. Clearly Zelensky felt like he needed more than what was contained in that deal from 2017, as he stated in the call.

 

[JoeB131]

not how it works,,

Sure it is.

We make determinations all the time on who is credible.

Trump isn't credible.

General Kelly is.

 

[DStar777]

He had first hand knowledge from Giuliani. You're conflating two different issues.

What did he testify to under questioning by rep Turner?

at 2:35 Amb Sonland says Guliani did NOT tie aid to the investigation. What is it you think Amb. Sonland is claiming?

 

[progressive hunter]

Sure it is.

We make determinations all the time on who is credible.

Trump isn't credible.

General Kelly is.

opinions vary,,

based on this claim kelly isnt credible,,

 

[JoeB131]

opinions vary,,

based on this claim kelly isnt credible,,

Um, not really.

We KNOW that Trump kept a copy of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand, according to the Ex-wife he buried at the Golf Course.

 

[progressive hunter]

Um, not really.

We KNOW that Trump kept a copy of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand, according to the Ex-wife he buried at the Golf Course.

you keep saying things and I keep not believing them,,

 

[Marener]

What did he testify to under questioning by rep Turner?

at 2:35 Amb Sonland says Guliani did NOT tie aid to the investigation. What is it you think Amb. Sonland is claiming?

As I stated repeatedly, Sonland said that the presidential visit was contingent on the investigation. This alone accounts for an impeachable quid pro quo. A presidential visit, as part of his official duties, being used to coerce a foreign power to damage his political opponent is clearly an abuse of power and abuse of office. That's what impeachment is for.

But when we extend this to include our knowledge that Trump also held up aid, it becomes clear this was also part of the scheme.

 

[DStar777]

We KNOW that Trump kept a copy of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand, according to the Ex-wife he buried at the Golf Course.

I have a copy of the Communist manifesto. What does that say about me?

 

[DStar777]

As I stated repeatedly, Sonland said that the presidential visit was contingent on the investigation. This alone accounts for an impeachable quid pro quo

No it doesn't because under questioning he admits that NO ONE told him aid to Ukraine was tied to investigating Hunter Biden. He's PRESUMING. Please tell me you think that when a Republican makes a presumption about wrong doing by Joe Biden, you think that makes him guilty of influence peddling.

 

[JoeB131]

you keep saying things and I keep not believing them,,

Oh, guy, deep down, you know Trump said this... you just want to pretend he didn't.

 

[progressive hunter]

Oh, guy, deep down, you know Trump said this... you just want to pretend he didn't.

still dont care what you say,,

youre dismissed,,

 

[JoeB131]

still dont care what you say,,

youre dismissed,,

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

This is who you support, guy.