A Georgia girl has died after her 4-year-old brother accidentally shot her

[Pogo]

A Georgia girl has died after her 4-year-old brother accidentally shot her, authorities say - CNN

"Detectives determined that no charges will be filed."

Really? Way to go Mom.

I read that article the other day. This was a sad event, and the police detectives made the best call that could be made. That mother will have sorrow against herself for the rest of her life for her inability to see the future. She may have forgotten that the gun was even there and that's just human. Prayers up for the entire family, their friends, and the counsellors who will hopefully be able to help them heal from this tragedy.

Not to be forgotten here is the hell of guilt the four-year-old boy has to go through for the rest of his life.

 

[RealDave]

The little girl died because the parents were not responsible. You never leave a loaded gun where children can get a hold of it. Never.

There are many dangerous things you need to keep children from having access to. A firearm is one of them.

My wife and I are going this afternoon to babysit our five year old granddaughter.

My son lives in a safe neighborhood but to get to his home we need to go through a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats. Because of that I will carry a firearm with me.

However, as soon as I get to the house I will unload and clear the firearm because of the child being there. I never have a loaded firearm around children.

Unfortunately you won't unload that paranoid political hackery shit from your head when you get there though.

You are confused Moon Bat.

You stupid Moon Bats hate the idea of personal accountability, don't you? That is just the kind of stupid assholes you are.

The gun didn't kill the child.

The brother didn't kill the child.

No filthy gun law or lack of gun laws killed the child.

Parental irresponsibility killed the child. You don't leave a loaded gun where children can get it. The parents owned a gun but didn't follow the most basic gun safety law and now a child is dead. You can't fix stupidity like that.

The mother should have joined the NRA and took one of the gun safety courses. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world.

But there are so many of you stupid people. Why should we trust you with a loaded gun in public?

 

[Flash]

That must have been a rough baseball game that they were going to if she needed to take a gun.
Always keep guns locked up.
Don't leave a gun in you car.
People should not carry guns on a daily basis because it's very dangerous and a yooog responsibility.

A rough baseball game? No, more like a collection of people usually unarmed sitting in a densely populated little area, a prime target for a mass shooting. I wouldn't go anywhere like that UNLESS I was armed. I know you prefer unarmed victims, but we don't.

And when someone busts into your house and is running down your hall what good will that locked up gun do?

No gun in the car? Carjackers love easy victims.

Shouldn't carry guns on a daily basis because it's dangerous? Tell the cops that.

Yeah except there is absolutely nothing to support this weird fantasy of yours.

There have been no hillbilly holdups or circular firing squads in rural America ballpark parking lots... where everybody has a gun probably within 50 feet 24/7. It seems the idiots who are packing to these ball games are primarily gang members.

And their hos.

There was never 9/11....before their was. There was never Chuchchrist....until their was. The Las Vegas shooting never happened until it did.

How many people have to die before you're willing to say someone can protect kids at a game? So there has to be a shooting first? Ever heard of an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? I've never been in an accident and I've been driving 25 years, 2 as a commercial driver with almost a quarter million miles under my belt. Why do I have to wear a seatbelt? I've never needed one. You have no problems with gov't forcing me to wear a seatbelt but have serious issues with someone wanting to exercise their 2nd amendment right.

And we all know your type. After a mass shooting you don't say "arm the good guys" you say "disarm the good guys" so it's really a moot point to argue with you.

Agreed.

There is no Constitutional right to drive down the street with or without a seat belt.

There is a Constitutional right to keep and bear arm. That right has even been upheld by the Court to be an individual right.

So when there is a mass shooting or some horrendous gun crime and these stupid Moon Bats say "take the guns away from the people that had no intention of committing the crime" then they are really saying that the don't respect the Bill of Right. Typical. The Constitution is a big impediment to making this country a socialist shithole and the Moon Bats hate it.

 

[Flash]

The little girl died because the parents were not responsible. You never leave a loaded gun where children can get a hold of it. Never.

There are many dangerous things you need to keep children from having access to. A firearm is one of them.

My wife and I are going this afternoon to babysit our five year old granddaughter.

My son lives in a safe neighborhood but to get to his home we need to go through a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats. Because of that I will carry a firearm with me.

However, as soon as I get to the house I will unload and clear the firearm because of the child being there. I never have a loaded firearm around children.

Unfortunately you won't unload that paranoid political hackery shit from your head when you get there though.

You are confused Moon Bat.

You stupid Moon Bats hate the idea of personal accountability, don't you? That is just the kind of stupid assholes you are.

The gun didn't kill the child.

The brother didn't kill the child.

No filthy gun law or lack of gun laws killed the child.

Parental irresponsibility killed the child. You don't leave a loaded gun where children can get it. The parents owned a gun but didn't follow the most basic gun safety law and now a child is dead. You can't fix stupidity like that.

The mother should have joined the NRA and took one of the gun safety courses. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world.

Once again....

a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats

Tell us more about this here "moonbattery".

Don't have to. You Moon Bats exhibit your mindless "moonbattery" every time you make one of your silly ass post.

 

[Flash]

The little girl died because the parents were not responsible. You never leave a loaded gun where children can get a hold of it. Never.

There are many dangerous things you need to keep children from having access to. A firearm is one of them.

My wife and I are going this afternoon to babysit our five year old granddaughter.

My son lives in a safe neighborhood but to get to his home we need to go through a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats. Because of that I will carry a firearm with me.

However, as soon as I get to the house I will unload and clear the firearm because of the child being there. I never have a loaded firearm around children.

Unfortunately you won't unload that paranoid political hackery shit from your head when you get there though.

You are confused Moon Bat.

You stupid Moon Bats hate the idea of personal accountability, don't you? That is just the kind of stupid assholes you are.

The gun didn't kill the child.

The brother didn't kill the child.

No filthy gun law or lack of gun laws killed the child.

Parental irresponsibility killed the child. You don't leave a loaded gun where children can get it. The parents owned a gun but didn't follow the most basic gun safety law and now a child is dead. You can't fix stupidity like that.

The mother should have joined the NRA and took one of the gun safety courses. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world.

But there are so many of you stupid people. Why should we trust you with a loaded gun in public?

Why should we trust you idiot Libtards with our Constitutional Liberties? You assholes are dumber than a door knob and hate the concept of personal Liberty. You will always do the wrong thing, no matter what the issue but especially with the right to keep and bear arms.

 

[RealDave]

The little girl died because the parents were not responsible. You never leave a loaded gun where children can get a hold of it. Never.

There are many dangerous things you need to keep children from having access to. A firearm is one of them.

My wife and I are going this afternoon to babysit our five year old granddaughter.

My son lives in a safe neighborhood but to get to his home we need to go through a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats. Because of that I will carry a firearm with me.

However, as soon as I get to the house I will unload and clear the firearm because of the child being there. I never have a loaded firearm around children.

Unfortunately you won't unload that paranoid political hackery shit from your head when you get there though.

You are confused Moon Bat.

You stupid Moon Bats hate the idea of personal accountability, don't you? That is just the kind of stupid assholes you are.

The gun didn't kill the child.

The brother didn't kill the child.

No filthy gun law or lack of gun laws killed the child.

Parental irresponsibility killed the child. You don't leave a loaded gun where children can get it. The parents owned a gun but didn't follow the most basic gun safety law and now a child is dead. You can't fix stupidity like that.

The mother should have joined the NRA and took one of the gun safety courses. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world.

But there are so many of you stupid people. Why should we trust you with a loaded gun in public?

Why should we trust you idiot Libtards with our Constitutional Liberties? You assholes are dumber than a door knob and hate the concept of personal Liberty. You will always do the wrong thing, no matter what the issue but especially with the right to keep and bear arms.

Poor baby, what Constitutional liberty do you think you lost? The right to be racist POS? The right to assault women? The right to steal children.

 

[beautress]

That must have been a rough baseball game that they were going to if she needed to take a gun.
Always keep guns locked up.
Don't leave a gun in you car.
People should not carry guns on a daily basis because it's very dangerous and a yooog responsibility.

..I've read where ''many'' are stolen from cars!!!!
..just so happens I got into a minor traffic accident and the other guy was talking to me about insurance....he then mentioned he had his pistol stolen from his car ..wow--

I have a friend whose car was stolen.
The Police recovered his car.
He got his car back and he had been driving it for several months when he decided to wash and vacuum it.
He found a gun under the driver's seat, and it wasn't his.
He took it to the police.

I hope they can track the gun to the perpetrator. A gun in a stolen car left by the perpetrator is a very bad omen for future thefts that could involve shooting someone with his new gun. If anything ever needed to be found, it would be the owner of that gun. Actually, I bet they're already on it.
/amateur sleuth

 

[koshergrl]

The little girl died because the parents were not responsible. You never leave a loaded gun where children can get a hold of it. Never.

There are many dangerous things you need to keep children from having access to. A firearm is one of them.

My wife and I are going this afternoon to babysit our five year old granddaughter.

My son lives in a safe neighborhood but to get to his home we need to go through a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats. Because of that I will carry a firearm with me.

However, as soon as I get to the house I will unload and clear the firearm because of the child being there. I never have a loaded firearm around children.

Unfortunately you won't unload that paranoid political hackery shit from your head when you get there though.

You are confused Moon Bat.

You stupid Moon Bats hate the idea of personal accountability, don't you? That is just the kind of stupid assholes you are.

The gun didn't kill the child.

The brother didn't kill the child.

No filthy gun law or lack of gun laws killed the child.

Parental irresponsibility killed the child. You don't leave a loaded gun where children can get it. The parents owned a gun but didn't follow the most basic gun safety law and now a child is dead. You can't fix stupidity like that.

The mother should have joined the NRA and took one of the gun safety courses. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world.

But there are so many of you stupid people. Why should we trust you with a loaded gun in public?

You'd rather only criminals have guns.
Because you are criminal.

Nobody is going to give up their guns except at the point of a gun...and we will shoot back.

 

[Pogo]

The little girl died because the parents were not responsible. You never leave a loaded gun where children can get a hold of it. Never.

There are many dangerous things you need to keep children from having access to. A firearm is one of them.

My wife and I are going this afternoon to babysit our five year old granddaughter.

My son lives in a safe neighborhood but to get to his home we need to go through a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats. Because of that I will carry a firearm with me.

However, as soon as I get to the house I will unload and clear the firearm because of the child being there. I never have a loaded firearm around children.

Unfortunately you won't unload that paranoid political hackery shit from your head when you get there though.

You are confused Moon Bat.

You stupid Moon Bats hate the idea of personal accountability, don't you? That is just the kind of stupid assholes you are.

The gun didn't kill the child.

The brother didn't kill the child.

No filthy gun law or lack of gun laws killed the child.

Parental irresponsibility killed the child. You don't leave a loaded gun where children can get it. The parents owned a gun but didn't follow the most basic gun safety law and now a child is dead. You can't fix stupidity like that.

The mother should have joined the NRA and took one of the gun safety courses. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world.

Once again....

a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats

Tell us more about this here "moonbattery".

Don't have to. You Moon Bats exhibit your mindless "moonbattery" every time you make one of your silly ass post.

See what I mean? I noted that you'll go to your granddaughter and unload the gun of its bullets but you won't unload your loaded mind of its dichotomous paranoid bullshit. So your pretense that you've disarmed is just that. You've only disarmed of the physical.

 

[koshergrl]

The little girl died because the parents were not responsible. You never leave a loaded gun where children can get a hold of it. Never.

There are many dangerous things you need to keep children from having access to. A firearm is one of them.

My wife and I are going this afternoon to babysit our five year old granddaughter.

My son lives in a safe neighborhood but to get to his home we need to go through a less than desirable minority area. You know, the ones that vote for Democrats. Because of that I will carry a firearm with me.

However, as soon as I get to the house I will unload and clear the firearm because of the child being there. I never have a loaded firearm around children.

Unfortunately you won't unload that paranoid political hackery shit from your head when you get there though.

You are confused Moon Bat.

You stupid Moon Bats hate the idea of personal accountability, don't you? That is just the kind of stupid assholes you are.

The gun didn't kill the child.

The brother didn't kill the child.

No filthy gun law or lack of gun laws killed the child.

Parental irresponsibility killed the child. You don't leave a loaded gun where children can get it. The parents owned a gun but didn't follow the most basic gun safety law and now a child is dead. You can't fix stupidity like that.

The mother should have joined the NRA and took one of the gun safety courses. The NRA is the largest gun safety organization in the world.

But there are so many of you stupid people. Why should we trust you with a loaded gun in public?

Why should we trust you idiot Libtards with our Constitutional Liberties? You assholes are dumber than a door knob and hate the concept of personal Liberty. You will always do the wrong thing, no matter what the issue but especially with the right to keep and bear arms.

Poor baby, what Constitutional liberty do you think you lost? The right to be racist POS? The right to assault women? The right to steal children.

You've just described Democrats to a T.

 

[harmonica]

4. living in a house with a gun increase chances of death
Living in a house with a gun increases your odds of death

Wrong....living in a house with a drug dealer, alcoholic or criminal and a gun increases your chance of death, not owning a gun for self defense....

Public Health and Gun Control: A Review

In 1993, in his landmark and much cited NEJM article (and the research, again, heavily funded by the CDC), Dr. Kellermann attempted to show again that guns in the home are a greater risk to the victims than to the assailants.4

Despite valid criticisms by reputable scholars of his previous works (including the 1986 study), Dr. Kellermann ignored the criticisms and again used the same methodology.

He also used study populations with disproportionately high rates of serious psychosocial dysfunction from three selected state counties, known to be unrepresentative of the general U.S. population.

For example,

53 percent of the case subjects had a history of a household member being arrested,

31 percent had a household history of illicit drug use,

32 percent had a household member hit or hurt in a family fight,

and 17 percent had a family member hurt so seriously in a domestic altercation that prompt medical attention was required.

Moreover, both the case studies and control groups in this analysis had a very high incidence of financial instability.

In fact, in this study, gun ownership, the supposedly high risk factor for homicide was not one of the most strongly associated factors for being murdered.

Drinking, illicit drugs, living alone, history of family violence, living in a rented home were all greater individual risk factors for being murdered than a gun in the home.

One must conclude there is no basis to apply the conclusions of this study to the general population.

All of these are factors that, as Dr. Suter pointed out, "would expectedly be associated with higher rates of violence and homicide."5

It goes without saying, the results of such a study on gun homicides, selecting this sort of unrepresentative population sample, nullify the authors' generalizations, and their preordained, conclusions can not be extrapolated to the general population.

Moreover, although the 1993 New England Journal of Medicine study purported to show that the homicide victims were killed with a gun ordinarily kept in the home, the fact is that as Kates and associates point out 71.1 percent of the victims were killed by assailants who did not live in the victims¹ household using guns presumably not kept in that home.6

While Kellermann and associates began with 444 cases of homicides in the home, cases were dropped from the study for a variety of reasons, and in the end, only 316 matched pairs were used in the final analysis, representing only 71.2 percent of the original 444 homicide cases.

This reduction increased tremendously the chance for sampling bias. Analysis of why 28.8 percent of the cases were dropped would have helped ascertain if the study was compromised by the existence of such biases, but Dr. Kellermann, in an unprecedented move, refused to release his data and make it available for other researchers to analyze.

Likewise, Prof. Gary Kleck of Florida State University has written me that knowledge about what guns were kept in the home is essential, but this data in his study was never released by Dr. Kellermann: "The most likely bit of data that he would want to withhold is information as to whether the gun used in the gun homicides was kept in the home of the victim."*

As Kates and associates point out, "The validity of the NEJM 1993 study¹s conclusions depend on the control group matching the homicide cases in every way (except, of course, for the occurrence of the homicide)."6

However, in this study, the controls collected did not match the cases in many ways (i.e., for example, in the amount of substance abuse, single parent versus two parent homes, etc.) contributing to further untoward effects, and decreasing the inference that can legitimately be drawn from the data of this study. Be that as it may, "The conclusion that gun ownership is a risk factor for homicide derives from the finding of a gun in 45.4 percent of the homicide case households, but in only 35.8 percent of the control household. Whether that finding is accurate, however, depends on the truthfulness of control group interviewees in admitting the presence of a gun or guns in the home."6

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https://crimeresearch.org/wp-conten...ack-of-Public-Health-Research-on-Firearms.pdf

The vast majority of these “children” are actually young adults. These are not little kids who accidentally hurt themselves by firing their parents’ gun. Consider these facts: • 76% of these injured “children” were 17, 18, or 19 years old. • 62% of injuries were the result of criminal assaults. • The injuries are overwhelmingly concentrated in large, urban areas

You sure don't know much about firearms!

2A has forgotten more about guns then you will ever know.

Sucks.....no education, no training.....this is what happens. Tragedy the need'nt have happened.

this stuff happens with humans --training or not
guns are the MOST efficient hand held tools DESIGNED for killing
....human error is the biggest reason for air crashes--not faulty planes--because humans are not perfect
.....humans are stupid-imperfect--HIGHLY erratic----they come up with the most stupid shit--give them a '''tool''' DESIGNED to kill EASILY and it is UNDENIABLE/obvious that they will kill----purposely and not on purpose
...remember the girl who accidentally killed the gun range operator??...she was not even trying to kill him
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...instructors-family-files-wrongful-death-suit/

There last 2 plane crashes were caused by faulty plane equipment. The planes have been grounded. Guns save a lot more lives then they take. Guns don’t kill people. People who get the guns illegally do. Also at least 70% of all mass shootings could have been stopped but people not speaking up and federal agencies not following up on there leads. Libtards have no understanding of guns and how to handle them. Stop protecting the crazy people and allow mental health checks and stick the HIPPA laws up your ass.


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again--you people put up ridiculous arguments
the majority of plane crashes are human error --plain and simple
I've already put up the stats from a reputable link

Yes, and the vast majority of gun deaths are SUICIDE.

Just as dead

10,000 murders each year. Showing guns keep us safe

their arguments are ''almost'' unbelievably ridiculous

 

[koshergrl]

You sure don't know much about firearms!

2A has forgotten more about guns then you will ever know.

this stuff happens with humans --training or not
guns are the MOST efficient hand held tools DESIGNED for killing
....human error is the biggest reason for air crashes--not faulty planes--because humans are not perfect
.....humans are stupid-imperfect--HIGHLY erratic----they come up with the most stupid shit--give them a '''tool''' DESIGNED to kill EASILY and it is UNDENIABLE/obvious that they will kill----purposely and not on purpose
...remember the girl who accidentally killed the gun range operator??...she was not even trying to kill him
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...instructors-family-files-wrongful-death-suit/

There last 2 plane crashes were caused by faulty plane equipment. The planes have been grounded. Guns save a lot more lives then they take. Guns don’t kill people. People who get the guns illegally do. Also at least 70% of all mass shootings could have been stopped but people not speaking up and federal agencies not following up on there leads. Libtards have no understanding of guns and how to handle them. Stop protecting the crazy people and allow mental health checks and stick the HIPPA laws up your ass.


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again--you people put up ridiculous arguments
the majority of plane crashes are human error --plain and simple
I've already put up the stats from a reputable link

Yes, and the vast majority of gun deaths are SUICIDE.

Just as dead

10,000 murders each year. Showing guns keep us safe

their arguments are ''almost'' unbelievably ridiculous

Murders are primarily black on black.

Remove those, and there is no gun murder problem in the US.

 

[impuretrash]

That's what the function of both is whether they get used or not.

My toaster is sitting in the kitchen idle right now. Not making toast. Until it does.
The gun in the OP story was sitting idle in the car, not killing anyone. Until it did.

In both cases the instrument does what it's designed to do.

Nobody buys a toaster thinking "gee, I hope I am never forced to use this to make toast but it's better safe than sorry"

Irrelevant. Toasters toast, guns shoot. It's what they do.

Supposedly, there's more guns in America than people. So if each of them were used for their "intended purpose"...well, you get the idea.

Anyway...nobody yet has suggested a policy that would have prevented that girl's death. So, let's hear some ideas.

Funny you should bring that up, because it was THE hot issue when I joined this site, just after Jovan Belcher's murder-suicide and just before Adam Lanza's 26-victim spree.

Gun violence is a social disease, not a political one. As such "policies" are at best ineffectual. We don't address social ills by throwing laws at them.

We live in a culture of death and violence that glorifies and fetishizes guns. That needs to change and until it does, nothing in the big picture changes. You can see it in the gun-fetish apologists who infest this board, some of whom will jump on this post faster than you can say white on rice, just as the same element jumped on Bob Costas' MNF commentary as a "gun control rant" even though he never once mentioned anything about gun control at all.

This produces a paranoid public some of whom actually believe these yahoos who tell them the answer to guns is more guns, and then you end up with a mother going to a baseball game with a baseball cap, two toddlers and a freaking loaded gun, and then we're supposed to act surprised when the inevitable happens.

It's a sick society. The infatuation with guns and killing and destroying things has to end, and it has to come from within. The values are depraved and they need to be jettisoned.

We don't have a culture of death....we have a left wing political party that pushes policies that destroy the nuclear family.....with out of wedlock birthrates going through the roof, filling our jails with fatherless boys, who are violent monsters because they had no fathers....that is what we need to fix.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans who own guns use them responsibly without breaking the law.

He mockingly "laughed" at your comment yet he admits that there's a societal problem in the US responsible for the violent tenancies. I guess in his mind, we're just not left-wing enough.

 

[Pogo]

Nobody buys a toaster thinking "gee, I hope I am never forced to use this to make toast but it's better safe than sorry"

Irrelevant. Toasters toast, guns shoot. It's what they do.

Supposedly, there's more guns in America than people. So if each of them were used for their "intended purpose"...well, you get the idea.

Anyway...nobody yet has suggested a policy that would have prevented that girl's death. So, let's hear some ideas.

Funny you should bring that up, because it was THE hot issue when I joined this site, just after Jovan Belcher's murder-suicide and just before Adam Lanza's 26-victim spree.

Gun violence is a social disease, not a political one. As such "policies" are at best ineffectual. We don't address social ills by throwing laws at them.

We live in a culture of death and violence that glorifies and fetishizes guns. That needs to change and until it does, nothing in the big picture changes. You can see it in the gun-fetish apologists who infest this board, some of whom will jump on this post faster than you can say white on rice, just as the same element jumped on Bob Costas' MNF commentary as a "gun control rant" even though he never once mentioned anything about gun control at all.

This produces a paranoid public some of whom actually believe these yahoos who tell them the answer to guns is more guns, and then you end up with a mother going to a baseball game with a baseball cap, two toddlers and a freaking loaded gun, and then we're supposed to act surprised when the inevitable happens.

It's a sick society. The infatuation with guns and killing and destroying things has to end, and it has to come from within. The values are depraved and they need to be jettisoned.

We don't have a culture of death....we have a left wing political party that pushes policies that destroy the nuclear family.....with out of wedlock birthrates going through the roof, filling our jails with fatherless boys, who are violent monsters because they had no fathers....that is what we need to fix.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans who own guns use them responsibly without breaking the law.

He mockingly "laughed" at your comment yet he admits that there's a societal problem in the US responsible for the violent tenancies. I guess in his mind, we're just not left-wing enough.

Indeed, I laughed mockingly at his crutch-leaning babble trying to associate social change and "fathers" with a freaking political party. That in itself is eminently mockable for its cluelessness, and it was duly mocked. I hold no respect for klowns who refuse to think.

 

[impuretrash]

Irrelevant. Toasters toast, guns shoot. It's what they do.

Supposedly, there's more guns in America than people. So if each of them were used for their "intended purpose"...well, you get the idea.

Anyway...nobody yet has suggested a policy that would have prevented that girl's death. So, let's hear some ideas.

Funny you should bring that up, because it was THE hot issue when I joined this site, just after Jovan Belcher's murder-suicide and just before Adam Lanza's 26-victim spree.

Gun violence is a social disease, not a political one. As such "policies" are at best ineffectual. We don't address social ills by throwing laws at them.

We live in a culture of death and violence that glorifies and fetishizes guns. That needs to change and until it does, nothing in the big picture changes. You can see it in the gun-fetish apologists who infest this board, some of whom will jump on this post faster than you can say white on rice, just as the same element jumped on Bob Costas' MNF commentary as a "gun control rant" even though he never once mentioned anything about gun control at all.

This produces a paranoid public some of whom actually believe these yahoos who tell them the answer to guns is more guns, and then you end up with a mother going to a baseball game with a baseball cap, two toddlers and a freaking loaded gun, and then we're supposed to act surprised when the inevitable happens.

It's a sick society. The infatuation with guns and killing and destroying things has to end, and it has to come from within. The values are depraved and they need to be jettisoned.

We don't have a culture of death....we have a left wing political party that pushes policies that destroy the nuclear family.....with out of wedlock birthrates going through the roof, filling our jails with fatherless boys, who are violent monsters because they had no fathers....that is what we need to fix.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans who own guns use them responsibly without breaking the law.

He mockingly "laughed" at your comment yet he admits that there's a societal problem in the US responsible for the violent tenancies. I guess in his mind, we're just not left-wing enough.

Indeed, I laughed mockingly at his crutch-leaning babble trying to associate social change and "fathers" with a freaking political party. That in itself is eminently mockable for its cluelessness, and it was duly mocked. I hold no respect for klowns who refuse to think.

Academia creates the destructive Marxist-inspired social theories, Hollywood propagandizes them, the Media legitimizes them and the Democrats codify them into law.

 

[Pogo]

Supposedly, there's more guns in America than people. So if each of them were used for their "intended purpose"...well, you get the idea.

Anyway...nobody yet has suggested a policy that would have prevented that girl's death. So, let's hear some ideas.

Funny you should bring that up, because it was THE hot issue when I joined this site, just after Jovan Belcher's murder-suicide and just before Adam Lanza's 26-victim spree.

Gun violence is a social disease, not a political one. As such "policies" are at best ineffectual. We don't address social ills by throwing laws at them.

We live in a culture of death and violence that glorifies and fetishizes guns. That needs to change and until it does, nothing in the big picture changes. You can see it in the gun-fetish apologists who infest this board, some of whom will jump on this post faster than you can say white on rice, just as the same element jumped on Bob Costas' MNF commentary as a "gun control rant" even though he never once mentioned anything about gun control at all.

This produces a paranoid public some of whom actually believe these yahoos who tell them the answer to guns is more guns, and then you end up with a mother going to a baseball game with a baseball cap, two toddlers and a freaking loaded gun, and then we're supposed to act surprised when the inevitable happens.

It's a sick society. The infatuation with guns and killing and destroying things has to end, and it has to come from within. The values are depraved and they need to be jettisoned.

We don't have a culture of death....we have a left wing political party that pushes policies that destroy the nuclear family.....with out of wedlock birthrates going through the roof, filling our jails with fatherless boys, who are violent monsters because they had no fathers....that is what we need to fix.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans who own guns use them responsibly without breaking the law.

He mockingly "laughed" at your comment yet he admits that there's a societal problem in the US responsible for the violent tenancies. I guess in his mind, we're just not left-wing enough.

Indeed, I laughed mockingly at his crutch-leaning babble trying to associate social change and "fathers" with a freaking political party. That in itself is eminently mockable for its cluelessness, and it was duly mocked. I hold no respect for klowns who refuse to think.

Academia creates the destructive Marxist-inspired social theories, Hollywood propagandizes them, the Media legitimizes them and the Democrats codify them into law.

How naïevely charming that there are those who think that's how the world works.

If you notice, you just got mocked for the same reason as above.

 

[dannyboys]

At this moment in a thousand negro 'gang bager' shit hole dumps there are hundreds of stolen loaded hand guns laying around for the kids to pick up and play with.

 

[impuretrash]

Funny you should bring that up, because it was THE hot issue when I joined this site, just after Jovan Belcher's murder-suicide and just before Adam Lanza's 26-victim spree.

Gun violence is a social disease, not a political one. As such "policies" are at best ineffectual. We don't address social ills by throwing laws at them.

We live in a culture of death and violence that glorifies and fetishizes guns. That needs to change and until it does, nothing in the big picture changes. You can see it in the gun-fetish apologists who infest this board, some of whom will jump on this post faster than you can say white on rice, just as the same element jumped on Bob Costas' MNF commentary as a "gun control rant" even though he never once mentioned anything about gun control at all.

This produces a paranoid public some of whom actually believe these yahoos who tell them the answer to guns is more guns, and then you end up with a mother going to a baseball game with a baseball cap, two toddlers and a freaking loaded gun, and then we're supposed to act surprised when the inevitable happens.

It's a sick society. The infatuation with guns and killing and destroying things has to end, and it has to come from within. The values are depraved and they need to be jettisoned.

We don't have a culture of death....we have a left wing political party that pushes policies that destroy the nuclear family.....with out of wedlock birthrates going through the roof, filling our jails with fatherless boys, who are violent monsters because they had no fathers....that is what we need to fix.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans who own guns use them responsibly without breaking the law.

He mockingly "laughed" at your comment yet he admits that there's a societal problem in the US responsible for the violent tenancies. I guess in his mind, we're just not left-wing enough.

Indeed, I laughed mockingly at his crutch-leaning babble trying to associate social change and "fathers" with a freaking political party. That in itself is eminently mockable for its cluelessness, and it was duly mocked. I hold no respect for klowns who refuse to think.

Academia creates the destructive Marxist-inspired social theories, Hollywood propagandizes them, the Media legitimizes them and the Democrats codify them into law.

How naïevely charming that there are those who think that's how the world works.

If you notice, you just got mocked for the same reason as above.

The US population is probably the most heavily propagandized society on earth resulting in a bunch of brainwashed idiots who can't think for themselves.

 

[Pogo]

We don't have a culture of death....we have a left wing political party that pushes policies that destroy the nuclear family.....with out of wedlock birthrates going through the roof, filling our jails with fatherless boys, who are violent monsters because they had no fathers....that is what we need to fix.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans who own guns use them responsibly without breaking the law.

He mockingly "laughed" at your comment yet he admits that there's a societal problem in the US responsible for the violent tenancies. I guess in his mind, we're just not left-wing enough.

Indeed, I laughed mockingly at his crutch-leaning babble trying to associate social change and "fathers" with a freaking political party. That in itself is eminently mockable for its cluelessness, and it was duly mocked. I hold no respect for klowns who refuse to think.

Academia creates the destructive Marxist-inspired social theories, Hollywood propagandizes them, the Media legitimizes them and the Democrats codify them into law.

How naïevely charming that there are those who think that's how the world works.

If you notice, you just got mocked for the same reason as above.

The US population is probably the most heavily propagandized society on earth resulting in a bunch of brainwashed idiots who can't think for themselves.

Couldn't agree more.

And here's where it comes from, originally ---

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-- which of course makes it all the more alarming that Rump spends all his waking moments that he's not Twitting (or even when he is), obediently glued to it.

 

[ph3iron]

A Georgia girl has died after her 4-year-old brother accidentally shot her, authorities say - CNN

"Detectives determined that no charges will be filed."

Really? Way to go Mom.

One of many.