SwimExpert
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The majority are desperate for work because they're deep in debt and we've had high unemployment for several years.
1 - Stop going deep into debt. That'll solve alot of problems.
2 - In case you missed it, unemployment is remarkably low. Yes, it was high for a while there, but it's not anymore. It's a worker's market out there right now.
3 - You are demonstrating how badly you are doing it wrong by talking about your personal debt. Your personal debt has nothing to do with it. Nobody is going to pay you based on how much debt you have. They are going to pay you based on what you bring to the table. If you go into the interview process with your personal debt at the forefront of your mind, you're doing it wrong! You're sabotaging yourself. You and you alone are the source of your problems!
Most of the jobs available don't pay enough to live on, so many need 2 or 3 jobs.
1 - How much does it take to "live on"? The real problem is that what it takes to "live on" is not what people are after. They are after what it takes to "live like a king on," with all their extras. But certainly, they want to work multiple jobs so they can afford all those other things, that's their prerogative.
2 - That aside, I am very much aware that the wage market is dangerously low nowadays. I never said otherwise. That is not an excuse for people to simply settle for low wages. In fact, it is all the more reason for people to stop being passive and become assertive and negotiate!! You're using the result of bad decisions as your excuse for making the bad decisions, which is insane!
Low wages are the result of people not being willing to negotiate. They are not an excuse for not negotiating. Would you expect someone to believe you if you said condoms aren't worth using, because nowadays there are so many people with HIV in the world? Of course not! But that is exactly the reasoning you are using here! Break out of your self defeatism!
They're not in position to negotiate wages.
1 - False. Insanely false. So false, it ought to be a crime to say what you have said. If yo have been selected for the position and they have made you a job offer, then you are in a position to negotiate wages.
Most of these jobs, e.g. service industry and low wage healthcare, have wages that are set in stone and there is no negotiation of wages even if you tried.
Nothing is set in stone, unless people like yourself have become so passive and have given in to accepting whatever is dictated to them, that the normalcy and appropriateness of negotiating has been forgotten to history.
Now, I find it quite interesting that you have narrowed your position from "most people" to a select set of industries, and specifically to low level line positions at that. If you're stuck in a low level line position in an industry that is so overfilled with passive junk employees, then either get into management today, or get the fuck out, get out now, and never look back. You'd be better off flipping burgers in fast food.
At the end of the day, nobody is forced to accept a job offer. When you accept, you are making an agreement to do the work at a certain price. When two sides have made an agreement, the only one who can be blamed if the agreement is not satisfactory is yourself.