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really.....was the port working then....it wasn't listed under those that were working....if it wasn't working then there is no way to determine if the door was open or closed....
you did read the report....
here is the report. http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf
i read it. everybody here is trying so hard to prove i said something wrong that they are losing the plot.
(the following is from memory so dont crucify me if its wrong!!)
attachment 1 lists ALL the parameters that can possibly be recorded. the first few pages (maybe 5 or 6 pages) have all the parameters that were recorded. then after that is a list of about 7 or 8 pages of parameters that were unavailable. the flight deck door is in the list of parameters that were unavailable. (the port was never configured most likely because all available ports were being used for other data.)
the door was never recorded.
You're such a waste of a punk for trying to squeam your way out of this. Anyone can see you claimed the fdr was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door therefore it showed the door as "...ALWAYS being closed."
Go ahead bitch, lie again you fucking waste.
HAHAHAHAHA your an ass.
you repost what i said 4 times and you STILL get it wrong!!! why do you keep saying "not capable" instead of no port? it isnt the same thing, jackass.
You're such a waste of a punk for trying to squeam your way out of this. Anyone can see you claimed the fdr was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door therefore it showed the door as "...ALWAYS being closed."
Go ahead bitch, lie again you fucking waste.
and the point of this would prove the port is working....was not working....help me here.....
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If the port was not working, could the fdr possibly record the open/closed door information?
no. it would indicate all zeros. (could be all ones but i believe all zeros).
Ah. So then, if the port wasn't working, it would be perfectly truthful and accurate to say that the fdr would not have been able to tell investigators whether or not the door ever did get opened....
because the cockpit voice recorder recorded the entryHow were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?
this is the question that it would seem so many here fear........
how do you know it was closed...
how do you know it was open?
It is to show how he (and others including the op) reached a conclusion without respect for investigation. Here are the three different reasons fizz gave to prove the op false:
1. The fdr on flt 77 was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door thus showing the door would always be closed.
2. There were no mandatory parameters that said the cabin door had to be monitored.
3. The fdr sensor for the cabin door was not working.
You're such a waste of a punk for trying to squeam your way out of this. Anyone can see you claimed the fdr was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door therefore it showed the door as "...ALWAYS being closed."
Go ahead bitch, lie again you fucking waste.
what squeaming? (not even sure thats a word).
you clearly have no idea what i am talking about. i didnt say it didnt have the ability. i said it had no port. its not the same thing. i never even once said it was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door. the door sensor doesnt even get connected to the FDR. it gets connected to the FDAU.
You're such a waste of a punk for trying to squeam your way out of this. Anyone can see you claimed the fdr was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door therefore it showed the door as "...ALWAYS being closed."
Go ahead bitch, lie again you fucking waste.
what squeaming? (not even sure thats a word).
you clearly have no idea what i am talking about. i didnt say it didnt have the ability. i said it had no port. its not the same thing. i never even once said it was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door. the door sensor doesnt even get connected to the FDR. it gets connected to the FDAU.
Even manu quoted your post claiming the fdr was not manufactured with the ability to monitor the door and concluded the op was false from your bogus claim. I pointed him to eots' post with the links showing the fdr was updated then he moved on to asking if it was working. Your lame ass port excuse is fucking weak. Can't you at least try to entertain us while trying to avoid admitting you fucked up? All you're doing is showing why people shouldn't take you seriously.
HOW DARE you use a GOVERNMENT site"the flight data recorder was manufactured in 1997. it had no port for the door sensor and therefore ALWAYS gave a closed signal. what the "independent researcher" fails to say is that not only did the sensor not detect an open door (since there was no sensor connected) during the entire flight of flight 77 but it also didnt detect an open door in the entire 42 hours prior to the flight"
ouch....well that takes care of that.
If you had read the official links above that were provided by eots you would have seen fizz fucked up on the claim the fdr could not monitor the door position. It was updated to perform the task.
look at http://www.ntsb.gov/info/AAL77_fdr.pdf and then tell me again how the flight deck door info is available. you are putting words into my mouth. i did NOT say that the FDR was incapable of doing it.
the proof is in front of your eyes. you simply are too blinded by your preconceived ideas to look at it. the port was not available. it was never configured. how can i make this any more simple for you to understand?
are you still trying to stick to the claim that the actual cockpit door was never opened?
because the cockpit voice recorder recorded the entryhow do you know it was closed...
how do you know it was open?
thats how
you can HEAR them storm the cockpit, thus the door HAD to be opened for that to happen
you REALLY suck at reading comprehensionI can't believe you're actually fucking straight up lying. This is you specifically claiming the fdr was not capable of monitoring the door:
"the flight data recorder was manufactured in 1997. it had no port for the door sensor and therefore ALWAYS gave a closed signal."
"the flight data recorder was manufactured in 1997. it had no port for the door sensor and therefore ALWAYS gave a closed signal."
"the flight data recorder was manufactured in 1997. it had no port for the door sensor and therefore ALWAYS gave a closed signal."
"the flight data recorder was manufactured in 1997. it had no port for the door sensor and therefore ALWAYS gave a closed signal."
Don't insult everyone's intelligence by trying to say you never made that claim.
Also, I never said the door was never opened so keep your strawman. Hell, you even quoted the post where I said I'm withholding a verdict until solid evidence is provided. All I did was point out your claim the op is false because the fdr could not monitor the door is bullshit.
HAHAHAHAHA your an ass.
you repost what i said 4 times and you STILL get it wrong!!! why do you keep saying "not capable" instead of no port? it isnt the same thing, jackass.
You're such a waste of a punk for trying to squeam your way out of this. Anyone can see you claimed the fdr was manufactured without the ability to monitor the door therefore it showed the door as "...ALWAYS being closed."
Go ahead bitch, lie again you fucking waste.
hey dumbfuck, if they "found the FDR INSIDE the PENTAGON" how the FUCK did it get there if it didnt crash INTO THE FUCKING PENTAGON????????????from the FDR they found INSIDE the PENTAGON9/11 Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible
PilotsFor911Truth
November 29, 2009
Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled “FLT DECK DOOR”, cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.
On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 0854 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, “…all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers…”[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?
9/11: Pentagon Aircraft Hijack Impossible - Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum
yeah sure
you guys are fucking stupid
Another stellar example of an OCTA being ignorant. The NTSB created its report with the help of using the fdr found inside the pentagon:
"American Airlines Flight 77 - Flight Profile
The following description of American Airlines Flight 77 is based on data from the
flight data recorder (FDR) recovered from the crash site..."
Q:\9-11 Commission\NTSB Docs\Doc 2 FPS AA77.tif
Yet you continue to call others stupid.....
Even manu quoted your post claiming the fdr was not manufactured with the ability to monitor the door and concluded the op was false from your bogus claim. I pointed him to eots' post with the links showing the fdr was updated then he moved on to asking if it was working. Your lame ass port excuse is fucking weak. Can't you at least try to entertain us while trying to avoid admitting you fucked up? All you're doing is showing why people shouldn't take you seriously.
you sure of that?because the cockpit voice recorder recorded the entryhow do you know it was open?
thats how
you can HEAR them storm the cockpit, thus the door HAD to be opened for that to happen
if i remember correctly, the cockpit voice recorder was unusable because the tape melted into a solid block (or close to it).
you sure of that?because the cockpit voice recorder recorded the entry
thats how
you can HEAR them storm the cockpit, thus the door HAD to be opened for that to happen
if i remember correctly, the cockpit voice recorder was unusable because the tape melted into a solid block (or close to it).
i'm pretty sure i heard the recording, but anyway, even if i am remembering incorrectly, and it was another of the flights they have the voice cockpit recorder from, they FOUND the FDR INSIDE the pentagon
LOL
interesting how troofers will use data from something they say didnt happen as proof it didnt happen
if flight 77 never crashed into the pentagon, how the fuck did they find this FDR INSIDE THE PENTAGON????????
interesting how troofers will use data from something they say didnt happen as proof it didnt happen
if flight 77 never crashed into the pentagon, how the fuck did they find this FDR INSIDE THE PENTAGON????????
It was planted by the conspirators, but the conspirators are so bad at the conspiracy component of the conspiracy that they inadvertently left confusing data in the shit they planted which can be used to demonstrate that the incident never even happened in the first place!
Shit. I think I'm really getting the hang of this Troofer stuff!
because the cockpit voice recorder recorded the entryhow do you know it was closed...
how do you know it was open?
thats how
you can HEAR them storm the cockpit, thus the door HAD to be opened for that to happen
