9/11 Omission Hearings

[Patriot911]

tinmore you are argueing with paid trolls.they wont watch videos,they never watch videos or books you refer them to.anything that doesnt go along with their version of events,they ignore or make up lies about which is what their handlers pay them to do.they are just here to derail 9/11 discussions,best thing to do is put them on ignore.

So says the truthtard sycophant who, like most truthtards, don't know what the fuck they are talking about and have to rely on others to defend what they think.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So why don't you state EXACTLY what it is you believe and we can take it from there. I'm not going to watch hours of bullshit video when it isn't even clear what it is you do and do not believe.

So, you have been criticizing my posts without ever looking to see what it is that you are criticizing.

No wonder you make no sense.

I've watched hour after hour of truther video. None of them have ever come up with anything new or any real evidence. These are more of the same.

I am not surprised you would cut and run instead of stating what you believe. Most truthers do that because to state what you actually believe means you're stuck with a set of claims that can be debunked. Truthers rely on being able to jump from theory to theory.

So no, I have not watched your videos. They were created six years ago and didn't amount to squat, so how good could they possibly be? They obviously didn't come up with any new evidence or we would have heard about it by now. If they make a specific claim you want to address, make that claim, but don't ask everyone to watch hours of bullshit in the hopes that they might fall for the truthtard lies as you have.

As for me "not making any sense", that is due to your inability to think, not to any lack of ability on my part.

So no, I have not watched your videos.

That was my point. That is why you make no sense. You are just blowing smoke out your ass.

 

[Patriot911]

So, you have been criticizing my posts without ever looking to see what it is that you are criticizing.

No wonder you make no sense.

I've watched hour after hour of truther video. None of them have ever come up with anything new or any real evidence. These are more of the same.

I am not surprised you would cut and run instead of stating what you believe. Most truthers do that because to state what you actually believe means you're stuck with a set of claims that can be debunked. Truthers rely on being able to jump from theory to theory.

So no, I have not watched your videos. They were created six years ago and didn't amount to squat, so how good could they possibly be? They obviously didn't come up with any new evidence or we would have heard about it by now. If they make a specific claim you want to address, make that claim, but don't ask everyone to watch hours of bullshit in the hopes that they might fall for the truthtard lies as you have.

As for me "not making any sense", that is due to your inability to think, not to any lack of ability on my part.

So no, I have not watched your videos.

That was my point. That is why you make no sense. You are just blowing smoke out your ass.

No I am not. The fact you are too fucking stupid to understand my points is not my fault. If you wish to make a point from your videos, make it. Don't demand everyone waste their time watching stupid videos that didn't accomplish a damn thing.

Now, do you have a point to make or not?

 

[P F Tinmore]

I've watched hour after hour of truther video. None of them have ever come up with anything new or any real evidence. These are more of the same.

I am not surprised you would cut and run instead of stating what you believe. Most truthers do that because to state what you actually believe means you're stuck with a set of claims that can be debunked. Truthers rely on being able to jump from theory to theory.

So no, I have not watched your videos. They were created six years ago and didn't amount to squat, so how good could they possibly be? They obviously didn't come up with any new evidence or we would have heard about it by now. If they make a specific claim you want to address, make that claim, but don't ask everyone to watch hours of bullshit in the hopes that they might fall for the truthtard lies as you have.

As for me "not making any sense", that is due to your inability to think, not to any lack of ability on my part.

So no, I have not watched your videos.

That was my point. That is why you make no sense. You are just blowing smoke out your ass.

No I am not. The fact you are too fucking stupid to understand my points is not my fault. If you wish to make a point from your videos, make it. Don't demand everyone waste their time watching stupid videos that didn't accomplish a damn thing.

Now, do you have a point to make or not?

Sure, you won't look at it. You would rather blow smoke out your ass.

 

[Patriot911]

That was my point. That is why you make no sense. You are just blowing smoke out your ass.

No I am not. The fact you are too fucking stupid to understand my points is not my fault. If you wish to make a point from your videos, make it. Don't demand everyone waste their time watching stupid videos that didn't accomplish a damn thing.

Now, do you have a point to make or not?

Sure, you won't look at it. You would rather blow smoke out your ass.

OK, let the record show you would rather sit there and fling insults than discuss the topic YOU made a thread of. What a fucking pussy! I knew you wouldn't actually tell us what you really think. That's what happens when one lets videos do their thinking for them.

 

[P F Tinmore]

No I am not. The fact you are too fucking stupid to understand my points is not my fault. If you wish to make a point from your videos, make it. Don't demand everyone waste their time watching stupid videos that didn't accomplish a damn thing.

Now, do you have a point to make or not?

Sure, you won't look at it. You would rather blow smoke out your ass.

OK, let the record show you would rather sit there and fling insults than discuss the topic YOU made a thread of. What a fucking pussy! I knew you wouldn't actually tell us what you really think. That's what happens when one lets videos do their thinking for them.

OK, Dick Cheney was involved in 9/11. The last video I posted presented evidence of that.

I am willing to discuss that point.

 

[Mr. Jones]

So, you have been criticizing my posts without ever looking to see what it is that you are criticizing.

No wonder you make no sense.

I've watched hour after hour of truther video. None of them have ever come up with anything new or any real evidence. These are more of the same.

I am not surprised you would cut and run instead of stating what you believe. Most truthers do that because to state what you actually believe means you're stuck with a set of claims that can be debunked. Truthers rely on being able to jump from theory to theory.

So no, I have not watched your videos. They were created six years ago and didn't amount to squat, so how good could they possibly be? They obviously didn't come up with any new evidence or we would have heard about it by now. If they make a specific claim you want to address, make that claim, but don't ask everyone to watch hours of bullshit in the hopes that they might fall for the truthtard lies as you have.

As for me "not making any sense", that is due to your inability to think, not to any lack of ability on my part.

So no, I have not watched your videos.

That was my point. That is why you make no sense. You are just blowing smoke out your ass.

LOL, that is the kind of asshole you're dealing with PF. He posts shit that is going to take days to filter through, yet he admits he is not interested, nor reads any of your links.
But then in the same breath says he "watched hours after hour" of truther videos!
It just goes to show you this asshole is only here to blow smoke up everybody's ass including his own. He's not convincing anyone that the "official" version is truthful, we on the other hand have presented much evidence of reasonable doubt, which he ignores.
Even the evidence against the suspect requires the downloading of videos and files a person has to watch and read..oh look a picture of OBL!!
Oh no lookout--"Group photo of Ayman Al Zawahiri, Usama Bin Laden & Abu Hafs"
Wow I can't wait to see and read the rest of the "evidence" on someone that alarm bells were raised on but info and investigations were kicked to the curb!
Shit, there are holes and discrepancies in the so called evidence I assure you this, and as soon as I filter and wade through the BS I'll be glad to chime in on this one
Parrot 9-11 is just another mentally ill troubled little troll, who wouldn't have the balls to talk to people the way he does with the protection of cyberspace at his disposal. I can absolutely guarantee you this
Furthermore, people who want to know the truth about 9-11 are at a huge disadvantage of having the lying entity as the defendant who happens to be the one in charge of everything from the 'official" investigations, to the ability to squash real witnesses and testimony, and hide behind the"state secrets" excuse, and fucks like him are the worst kinds of cowards as they have the benefit of being able to hide under the skirt of the government who has the power to do whatever it is they feel they need to do in order to cover up anything they want to.
It takes more courage to be a truther and a real Patriot then it is to hide inside the ass of the government like this treasonous fuck does.

And BTW, OBL stated in an interview a few weeks after the attack that he was not responsible for 9-11 and much reasonable doubt has been presented over the events, but you continue to play the fruit loop game and pretend no one ever mentions it. Your credibility has been blown to shit countless times, I'll be happy to repost your BS at anyones request to prove it too.

 

[Patriot911]

Sure, you won't look at it. You would rather blow smoke out your ass.

OK, let the record show you would rather sit there and fling insults than discuss the topic YOU made a thread of. What a fucking pussy! I knew you wouldn't actually tell us what you really think. That's what happens when one lets videos do their thinking for them.

OK, Dick Cheney was involved in 9/11. The last video I posted presented evidence of that.

I am willing to discuss that point.

OK. Once again you FORCE people to watch your fucking retarded videos because you are incapable of actually thinking for yourself and presenting your case. So noted.

So let's break it down.

We're listening to a retard named Michael Ruppert who is shamelessly hawking his books to the gullible sheep. Two minutes in and all he's doing is selling his book. This is your source?

BTW, his book was a huge failure. I've read the book. It is retarded to a degree only a first grader would find it credible and then only if the first grader was trying to make a bad joke.

To sum up, Crossing the rubicon aledges that Cheney was personally responsible for 9/11 and, with the help of Israel and Saudi Arabia (no I'm not kidding), used remote controls to bring in the planes into the towers, a missile into the Pentagon while flight 77 was landed elsewhere, and Flight 93 was landed elsewhere and the Shanksville site was made up. In other words, every major conspiratard theory out there.

I would like to note that at the 3:05 mark, Ruppert actually admits he is ignoring all physical evidence. Isn't this what I always say truthtards do? Ignore all evidence that they don't like?

His reasons? First he claims the photographic evidence is inadmissible in a court of law because of no chain of posession. What.... he thinks all the investigators are completely incompetent and don't know how to gather evidence that would be admissible in court? Considering all the photographs that WERE admitted as evidence in a court of law and went through the proper examinations, one can correctly deduce that Ruppert is using this as an excuse. He knows the physical evidence makes a mockery of his OPINIONS that Cheney was behind 9/11.

His second reason for ignoring all the evidence? Because it is subject to interpretation. What a fucking whiner! Again, his claims are PROVEN false as the same evidence he ignores WAS introduced and vetted in a court of law.

Still hawking and bragging about his book at the 4 minute mark, he pretends his work of fiction is admissible in court as evidence as it isn't open for interpretation. What a fucking RETARD!!!! His OPINION is not evidence. It is OPINION. He has no hard evidence to back up his claims and when he freely admits he is IGNORING evidence in order to make his fantasy seem real, one has to seriously wonder who would be so fucking stupid as to believe this guy.

OK. Five minutes in and he FINALLY gets to the motive. Peak oil. Except peak oil is a myth. Not only that, but the myth that 9/11 was about oil is proven now that we have a decade of history behind us. What did the oil companies get out of 9/11? Iraq? Nope. Very little of the oil production went to US companies and the Iraqi government is firmly in control of the Iraq oil fields. The Afghan pipeline? Still being discussed, but no hard plans. So peak oil as a reason has been proven bullshit.

So let's discuss. Starting at the 5 minute mark, Ruppert makes the following claim

The attacks of September 11th were a pretext for the American, and to a lesser extent, British and Israeli "empires" to begin seizing by force those energy supplies needed to sustain their power, hegemony whether regional or global, and their teetering economies. Both governments were involved well before the attacks occured. The attacks of 9/11 were accomplished through an amazing orchestration of logistics and personnel.

Ten years later. What oil fields has ANYONE taken over? Come on. This is his whole argument for why 9/11 took place, yet HIS PREDICTIONS DIDN'T HAPPEN. Not even a little bit. Seriously. When someone is THIS FAR off base, don't you have to question the story as a whole?

He then goes on to refute Clark's claim that there would be too many people involved. Ruppert points to the Manhattan project as proof it can be kept secret, except this too is an extremely retarded position. The Manhattan project was a secret because they kept people sequestered so they couldn't talk, and after the atom bomb was released, the secret was out. There was no way they could have kept the Manhattan project a secret indefinitely as Ruppert would have you believe.

At 6:30, Ruppert, in his ignorance, pretends the war games being conducted at the time of 9/11 are the smoking gun evidence of government involvement of 9/11. Never mind that the war games are conducted every year. Never mind that the war games made no impact on the events of 9/11. Never mind that it took approximately five seconds for someone to ask if this was real world or an excercise to understand it WASN'T part of the war games. Never mind that the war games did not take away one iota of what America had in terms of defense. Never mind the truth. Ruppert thinks the war games are the evidence. He was found wrong by every account. ATC, FAA, NTSB, NORAD, NEADS, and Air National Guard accountings show beyond any doubt that the war games had ZERO IMPACT to the events of 9/11.

Even better, shit for brains Ruppert claims at 6:45 that Cheney was in charge of the war games!!!! What a hoot! You do realize that Cheney was put in charge of overseeing the creation of a group to oversee the wargames, right? I mean, this is really old news. Cheney had as much to do with the war games as you or I do. The office he was put in charge of creating WASN'T EVEN IN PLACE on 9/11! Yet this fucker is lying his ass off to you trying to pretend Cheney was in charge. If Cheney was in charge, why is it not ONE COMMAND from Cheney to the people running the war games was ever found?

At 7 minutes he makes a blatant lie. He claims that ALL the wargames but two were all centered around hijackings from within the United States and in the NEADS area. This is simply not true. ONE of the wargames had PART of it dealing with hijackings from overseas. And again, it took all of five seconds for NEADS to ask and get confirmation that what the FAA was dealing with was NOT part of the excercise.

Do you HONESTLY believe the military wouldn't have a contingency plan if a REAL attack happened at the same time excercises were going on? Because as idiotic as not having a way of telling reality from exercise is, that is EXACTLY what Ruppert is demanding you do in order for his fantasy to hold water.

Ruppert then goes on to pretend that the exercises directly involved the planes that were on standby for a real attack. This is proven untrue as those planes were both ready to be launched and WERE launched when NEADS ordered it.

THEN Ruppert goes on to pretend that Northern Vigilance pulled all the aircraft to the north, preventing any kind of response. Again, the events of 9/11 showed that aircraft were present, but not prepared, nor were they SUPPOSE to be prepared.

The FACT of the matter is there were only four aircraft on ready status for the North Eastern United States. This was by design and had not changed in decades. No amount of pretending by Ruppert changes this fact. I suppose this is just another piece of hard evidence he conveniently ignored in order to sell his books to mindless sheep.

THEN Ruppert pretends that the military was flying around remote controlled aircraft to simulate the hijacked aircraft for the military. Except NOTHING backs up his bullshit claim. NOTHING in six years shows the military was using or even had the capability then to use remote controlled aircraft to simulate hijacked aircraft. And why would they? Hijacked aircraft were to be escorted to a safe place to land, not be shot down. Why would anyone risk an unproven technology for no gain?

At 9:45, Ruppert again makes the claims the war games effectively paralized our response. HOW? NEADS asked and was informed that this was real world and launched fighters as it was suppose to upon request from the FAA. For someone who claims to have investigated this, this is an oversight that cannot and should not be excused by ANYONE.

At 13:30, Ruppert claims the radar injects were continued after the attack was known and that the FAA was having to deal with 22 hijackings at once. Yet this claim is not backed up by ANYONE other than him.

At 18:15 Ruppert starts going off on pretending that the Whitehouse should have been in contact by Giulliani. He then bases his whole argument on a lie. He pretends the only fighters launched towards NYC were from Otis. This is a lie you can easily verify for yourself. The fighters launched from Langley BEFORE the Pentagon was struck were heading for NYC due to the FAA believing Flight 11 was still in the air and heading south from the NYC area. How is it this gasbag doesn't know this? Oh right. Because otherwise he has nothing. The rest of the video is him pretending the Whitehouse HAD to be talking about Otis and thus nothing adds up. Well, yeah. If you start with a lie, it is VERY hard to get things to add up. When you work with the truth, it is very EASY to get things to add up.

OK, Tinmore. I watched your video. As predicted, it didn't bring to light one new or even remotely new item that hasn't been gone over a thousand times before. All it did was reconfirm to me that Ruppert is out to milk you stupid sheep for all you are worth by lying his ass off to anyone who will buy his books.

 

[Patriot911]

Ahhh. Fucktard Jones is going to open his piehole and prove to the world what a fucking liar he is.

LOL, that is the kind of asshole you're dealing with PF. He posts shit that is going to take days to filter through, yet he admits he is not interested, nor reads any of your links.

And there is your first lie from this piece of shit liar named Jones! Where did I say I was not interested? I said I didn't want to watch videos that all regurgitate the same bullshit. I was proven right yet again. I also read links as has been proven time and time again as I repeatedly kicked your ass by reading your links and pointing out your claims were directly refuted by your links. Once again fucktard Jones goes down in more flames than a gay pride parade in San Francisco!

But then in the same breath says he "watched hours after hour" of truther videos!

Which is true. Why is this so hard for your dishonest peabrain to comprehend? After the first dozen or so never say anything new, one starts to notice a pattern.

It just goes to show you this asshole is only here to blow smoke up everybody's ass including his own.

Really? My response shows you're lying about this as well.

He's not convincing anyone that the "official" version is truthful, we on the other hand have presented much evidence of reasonable doubt, which he ignores.

Yet every time I ask you to present the evidence you constantly claim you have, you ignore the request. Why? Because we BOTH know you don't have any real evidence. Opinions are NOT evidence.

Even the evidence against the suspect requires the downloading of videos and files a person has to watch and read..oh look a picture of OBL!!
Oh no lookout--"Group photo of Ayman Al Zawahiri, Usama Bin Laden & Abu Hafs"
Wow I can't wait to see and read the rest of the "evidence" on someone that alarm bells were raised on but info and investigations were kicked to the curb!

I think you need to up the meds, ya fucking loon! You're not making any sense!

Shit, there are holes and discrepancies in the so called evidence I assure you this, and as soon as I filter and wade through the BS I'll be glad to chime in on this one

Yet Jones is FAR to big a pussy to actually debate the subject. Anytime someone hands him his ass he pretends to put them on ignore and runs away like the little bitch that he is.

Parrot 9-11 is just another mentally ill troubled little troll, who wouldn't have the balls to talk to people the way he does with the protection of cyberspace at his disposal. I can absolutely guarantee you this

And there again you prove you lie your ass off on a regular basis. I've debated truthtards in real life and have won every time. Want to know why? Because the lies can't stand exposure to the truth! You stupid fucks PRETEND you know what is going on, but you don't. You prove that every time you post. In the mean time, I do know what happened and can refute each and every one of the myriad theories you stupid fucks come up with.

BTW, why is it no two truthtards can actually AGREE on who did it, when they did it, why they did it, how they did it, or even what really happened? And you expect people to believe you lying fucks? That's a good one!

Furthermore, people who want to know the truth about 9-11 are at a huge disadvantage of having the lying entity as the defendant who happens to be the one in charge of everything from the 'official" investigations, to the ability to squash real witnesses and testimony, and hide behind the"state secrets" excuse, and fucks like him are the worst kinds of cowards as they have the benefit of being able to hide under the skirt of the government who has the power to do whatever it is they feel they need to do in order to cover up anything they want to.

Damn, Jones! Take a breath before you stroke out on us! Have you ever actually GONE to school? Ever hear of a runon sentence? What a fucking asshole Jones is! All that to pretend like he knows what is going on. Didn't work.

It takes more courage to be a truther and a real Patriot then it is to hide inside the ass of the government like this treasonous fuck does.

I'll admit it takes more courage to stand there and lie your ass off and use the deaths of 3000 Americans to push your bullshit anti-government agenda. Defending the truth doesn't take courage. Just the willingness to stand up to smug little piece of shit liars like you who pretend they are men, but are nothing but silly little bitches running around screaming like little girls and making as much sense.

And BTW, OBL stated in an interview a few weeks after the attack that he was not responsible for 9-11 and much reasonable doubt has been presented over the events, but you continue to play the fruit loop game and pretend no one ever mentions it.

Wrong yet again you lying fuck. It has been discussed at great length. OBL at the time was in the hands of the Taliban who had already claimed they would hand him over if there were evidence he was involved. Like he would really claim he was guilty and force the Taliban to hand him over! Funny how you then go on to ignore the numerous other videos released by OBL and other high ranking members of Al Qaeda that claim Al Qaeda was responsible for 9/11. Pretty big fucking pair of blinders you have on there!

Your credibility has been blown to shit countless times, I'll be happy to repost your BS at anyones request to prove it too.

Go for it. You've been smacked down more times than low man on the totem poll at the WWF. I'll be happy to smack you down some more.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Ahhh. Fucktard Jones is going to open his piehole and prove to the world what a fucking liar he is.

LOL, that is the kind of asshole you're dealing with PF. He posts shit that is going to take days to filter through, yet he admits he is not interested, nor reads any of your links.

And there is your first lie from this piece of shit liar named Jones! Where did I say I was not interested? I said I didn't want to watch videos that all regurgitate the same bullshit. I was proven right yet again. I also read links as has been proven time and time again as I repeatedly kicked your ass by reading your links and pointing out your claims were directly refuted by your links. Once again fucktard Jones goes down in more flames than a gay pride parade in San Francisco!

But then in the same breath says he "watched hours after hour" of truther videos!

Which is true. Why is this so hard for your dishonest peabrain to comprehend? After the first dozen or so never say anything new, one starts to notice a pattern.


Really? My response shows you're lying about this as well.


Yet every time I ask you to present the evidence you constantly claim you have, you ignore the request. Why? Because we BOTH know you don't have any real evidence. Opinions are NOT evidence.


I think you need to up the meds, ya fucking loon! You're not making any sense!


Yet Jones is FAR to big a pussy to actually debate the subject. Anytime someone hands him his ass he pretends to put them on ignore and runs away like the little bitch that he is.


And there again you prove you lie your ass off on a regular basis. I've debated truthtards in real life and have won every time. Want to know why? Because the lies can't stand exposure to the truth! You stupid fucks PRETEND you know what is going on, but you don't. You prove that every time you post. In the mean time, I do know what happened and can refute each and every one of the myriad theories you stupid fucks come up with.

BTW, why is it no two truthtards can actually AGREE on who did it, when they did it, why they did it, how they did it, or even what really happened? And you expect people to believe you lying fucks? That's a good one!


Damn, Jones! Take a breath before you stroke out on us! Have you ever actually GONE to school? Ever hear of a runon sentence? What a fucking asshole Jones is! All that to pretend like he knows what is going on. Didn't work.


I'll admit it takes more courage to stand there and lie your ass off and use the deaths of 3000 Americans to push your bullshit anti-government agenda. Defending the truth doesn't take courage. Just the willingness to stand up to smug little piece of shit liars like you who pretend they are men, but are nothing but silly little bitches running around screaming like little girls and making as much sense.

And BTW, OBL stated in an interview a few weeks after the attack that he was not responsible for 9-11 and much reasonable doubt has been presented over the events, but you continue to play the fruit loop game and pretend no one ever mentions it.

Wrong yet again you lying fuck. It has been discussed at great length. OBL at the time was in the hands of the Taliban who had already claimed they would hand him over if there were evidence he was involved. Like he would really claim he was guilty and force the Taliban to hand him over! Funny how you then go on to ignore the numerous other videos released by OBL and other high ranking members of Al Qaeda that claim Al Qaeda was responsible for 9/11. Pretty big fucking pair of blinders you have on there!

Your credibility has been blown to shit countless times, I'll be happy to repost your BS at anyones request to prove it too.

Go for it. You've been smacked down more times than low man on the totem poll at the WWF. I'll be happy to smack you down some more.

Ah just as I suspected and responded to you on another thread,
to quote your statement above--
" Once again fucktard Jones goes down in more flames than a gay pride parade in San Francisco!"
Why is it you and your boyfriend Candycorn always refer to homo shit like this? I gues what I wrote about you 2 is true lol!!

Look you aren't kidding anybody, you were punked like the POS that you are on many occasions on here ever since your dumbass signed up here, I saved all your posts that show what garbage you really are. You constantly whine about proof this and that and we show you link you, post videos for your stupid ass, and you deny it exists. I have frustrated you to the point you had to be made to apologize to me for personal attacks on 2 fucking occasions.
You are a worthless mentally fucked in the head troll, and if anybody wants to know why all they got to do is read your history that is full of troll tactics, disinformation and outright lies and straight up BS.
You crave attention because you are a misfit mental case with homo tendencies, who has no meaningful life.
You are not worth my time or anyone else s, and I have spent countless hours and days knocking your ass kissing government apologists shit down, and when you were cornered and got all frustrated, you came at me with your pussy personal attacks
and you went on my ignore list, where you will promptly go again after this post.
I say again, that I guarantee your punk ass would never have the balls to come at anyone with your tough guy act, and the only thing saving you is the anonymity of the net and your keyboard, punk.
Now go try your lame tactics on someone else, because I've kicked your ass and had my way with you already too many times.
Now you run along and check up on your Pole Ho candy and spend some quality time together learning about how to fix your mental defects.

 

[candycorn]

Ahhh. Fucktard Jones is going to open his piehole and prove to the world what a fucking liar he is.

LOL, that is the kind of asshole you're dealing with PF. He posts shit that is going to take days to filter through, yet he admits he is not interested, nor reads any of your links.

And there is your first lie from this piece of shit liar named Jones! Where did I say I was not interested? I said I didn't want to watch videos that all regurgitate the same bullshit. I was proven right yet again. I also read links as has been proven time and time again as I repeatedly kicked your ass by reading your links and pointing out your claims were directly refuted by your links. Once again fucktard Jones goes down in more flames than a gay pride parade in San Francisco!


Which is true. Why is this so hard for your dishonest peabrain to comprehend? After the first dozen or so never say anything new, one starts to notice a pattern.


Really? My response shows you're lying about this as well.


Yet every time I ask you to present the evidence you constantly claim you have, you ignore the request. Why? Because we BOTH know you don't have any real evidence. Opinions are NOT evidence.


I think you need to up the meds, ya fucking loon! You're not making any sense!


Yet Jones is FAR to big a pussy to actually debate the subject. Anytime someone hands him his ass he pretends to put them on ignore and runs away like the little bitch that he is.


And there again you prove you lie your ass off on a regular basis. I've debated truthtards in real life and have won every time. Want to know why? Because the lies can't stand exposure to the truth! You stupid fucks PRETEND you know what is going on, but you don't. You prove that every time you post. In the mean time, I do know what happened and can refute each and every one of the myriad theories you stupid fucks come up with.

BTW, why is it no two truthtards can actually AGREE on who did it, when they did it, why they did it, how they did it, or even what really happened? And you expect people to believe you lying fucks? That's a good one!


Damn, Jones! Take a breath before you stroke out on us! Have you ever actually GONE to school? Ever hear of a runon sentence? What a fucking asshole Jones is! All that to pretend like he knows what is going on. Didn't work.


I'll admit it takes more courage to stand there and lie your ass off and use the deaths of 3000 Americans to push your bullshit anti-government agenda. Defending the truth doesn't take courage. Just the willingness to stand up to smug little piece of shit liars like you who pretend they are men, but are nothing but silly little bitches running around screaming like little girls and making as much sense.


Wrong yet again you lying fuck. It has been discussed at great length. OBL at the time was in the hands of the Taliban who had already claimed they would hand him over if there were evidence he was involved. Like he would really claim he was guilty and force the Taliban to hand him over! Funny how you then go on to ignore the numerous other videos released by OBL and other high ranking members of Al Qaeda that claim Al Qaeda was responsible for 9/11. Pretty big fucking pair of blinders you have on there!

Your credibility has been blown to shit countless times, I'll be happy to repost your BS at anyones request to prove it too.

Go for it. You've been smacked down more times than low man on the totem poll at the WWF. I'll be happy to smack you down some more.

Ah just as I suspected and responded to you on another thread,
to quote your statement above--
" Once again fucktard Jones goes down in more flames than a gay pride parade in San Francisco!"
Why is it you and your boyfriend Candycorn always refer to homo shit like this? I gues what I wrote about you 2 is true lol!!

Look you aren't kidding anybody, you were punked like the POS that you are on many occasions on here ever since your dumbass signed up here, I saved all your posts that show what garbage you really are. You constantly whine about proof this and that and we show you link you, post videos for your stupid ass, and you deny it exists. I have frustrated you to the point you had to be made to apologize to me for personal attacks on 2 fucking occasions.
You are a worthless mentally fucked in the head troll, and if anybody wants to know why all they got to do is read your history that is full of troll tactics, disinformation and outright lies and straight up BS.
You crave attention because you are a misfit mental case with homo tendencies, who has no meaningful life.
You are not worth my time or anyone else s, and I have spent countless hours and days knocking your ass kissing government apologists shit down, and when you were cornered and got all frustrated, you came at me with your pussy personal attacks
and you went on my ignore list, where you will promptly go again after this post.
I say again, that I guarantee your punk ass would never have the balls to come at anyone with your tough guy act, and the only thing saving you is the anonymity of the net and your keyboard, punk.
Now go try your lame tactics on someone else, because I've kicked your ass and had my way with you already too many times.
Now you run along and check up on your Pole Ho candy and spend some quality time together learning about how to fix your mental defects.

Poor little bitch...nobody has ever cared what you thought. Nine years and nothing to show for it. He he he... Oh brother.

The personal attack is all you have left. Not that you had an expansive toolbox to start with.

Lets review;

Not one major inaccuracy in the 9/11 Commission Report...so you can't pound it except to your equally baked whackjobs you call friends.

Absolutely zero evidence of any sort of inside job from credible sources. So you can't point to any evidence to prop up your sad opinions.

You just ain't got shit except for the lump between your ears.

I'm sure there will be more personal attacks, more crazy assed whining, more baseless claims, and of course, more denial of your true being...a grotesque bitch without a life. Otherwise you would have realized that you are irrelevant and would have moved on to something else;

Nine years...and you ain't got shit to show for it.

Pathetic barely begins to describe you. And you know it; as we all do. Your not acknowledging it does not change the fact; it just makes you looks worse. Hence Ollie, Soup, P911 all picking up on your sad little tantrums. Ever wonder why nobody is rushing to your defense? They can't stand you either; you're hated by all; just like in real life.

Rimjob will give you a Lewinsky whenever she shows up but she does that to all the guys...just like Sword on the other board. That always made me laugh. he he he

 

[P F Tinmore]

OK, let the record show you would rather sit there and fling insults than discuss the topic YOU made a thread of. What a fucking pussy! I knew you wouldn't actually tell us what you really think. That's what happens when one lets videos do their thinking for them.

OK, Dick Cheney was involved in 9/11. The last video I posted presented evidence of that.

I am willing to discuss that point.

OK. Once again you FORCE people to watch your fucking retarded videos because you are incapable of actually thinking for yourself and presenting your case. So noted.

So let's break it down.

We're listening to a retard named Michael Ruppert who is shamelessly hawking his books to the gullible sheep. Two minutes in and all he's doing is selling his book. This is your source?

BTW, his book was a huge failure. I've read the book. It is retarded to a degree only a first grader would find it credible and then only if the first grader was trying to make a bad joke.

To sum up, Crossing the rubicon aledges that Cheney was personally responsible for 9/11 and, with the help of Israel and Saudi Arabia (no I'm not kidding), used remote controls to bring in the planes into the towers, a missile into the Pentagon while flight 77 was landed elsewhere, and Flight 93 was landed elsewhere and the Shanksville site was made up. In other words, every major conspiratard theory out there.

I would like to note that at the 3:05 mark, Ruppert actually admits he is ignoring all physical evidence. Isn't this what I always say truthtards do? Ignore all evidence that they don't like?

His reasons? First he claims the photographic evidence is inadmissible in a court of law because of no chain of posession. What.... he thinks all the investigators are completely incompetent and don't know how to gather evidence that would be admissible in court? Considering all the photographs that WERE admitted as evidence in a court of law and went through the proper examinations, one can correctly deduce that Ruppert is using this as an excuse. He knows the physical evidence makes a mockery of his OPINIONS that Cheney was behind 9/11.

His second reason for ignoring all the evidence? Because it is subject to interpretation. What a fucking whiner! Again, his claims are PROVEN false as the same evidence he ignores WAS introduced and vetted in a court of law.

Still hawking and bragging about his book at the 4 minute mark, he pretends his work of fiction is admissible in court as evidence as it isn't open for interpretation. What a fucking RETARD!!!! His OPINION is not evidence. It is OPINION. He has no hard evidence to back up his claims and when he freely admits he is IGNORING evidence in order to make his fantasy seem real, one has to seriously wonder who would be so fucking stupid as to believe this guy.

OK. Five minutes in and he FINALLY gets to the motive. Peak oil. Except peak oil is a myth. Not only that, but the myth that 9/11 was about oil is proven now that we have a decade of history behind us. What did the oil companies get out of 9/11? Iraq? Nope. Very little of the oil production went to US companies and the Iraqi government is firmly in control of the Iraq oil fields. The Afghan pipeline? Still being discussed, but no hard plans. So peak oil as a reason has been proven bullshit.

So let's discuss. Starting at the 5 minute mark, Ruppert makes the following claim

The attacks of September 11th were a pretext for the American, and to a lesser extent, British and Israeli "empires" to begin seizing by force those energy supplies needed to sustain their power, hegemony whether regional or global, and their teetering economies. Both governments were involved well before the attacks occured. The attacks of 9/11 were accomplished through an amazing orchestration of logistics and personnel.

Ten years later. What oil fields has ANYONE taken over? Come on. This is his whole argument for why 9/11 took place, yet HIS PREDICTIONS DIDN'T HAPPEN. Not even a little bit. Seriously. When someone is THIS FAR off base, don't you have to question the story as a whole?

He then goes on to refute Clark's claim that there would be too many people involved. Ruppert points to the Manhattan project as proof it can be kept secret, except this too is an extremely retarded position. The Manhattan project was a secret because they kept people sequestered so they couldn't talk, and after the atom bomb was released, the secret was out. There was no way they could have kept the Manhattan project a secret indefinitely as Ruppert would have you believe.

At 6:30, Ruppert, in his ignorance, pretends the war games being conducted at the time of 9/11 are the smoking gun evidence of government involvement of 9/11. Never mind that the war games are conducted every year. Never mind that the war games made no impact on the events of 9/11. Never mind that it took approximately five seconds for someone to ask if this was real world or an excercise to understand it WASN'T part of the war games. Never mind that the war games did not take away one iota of what America had in terms of defense. Never mind the truth. Ruppert thinks the war games are the evidence. He was found wrong by every account. ATC, FAA, NTSB, NORAD, NEADS, and Air National Guard accountings show beyond any doubt that the war games had ZERO IMPACT to the events of 9/11.

Even better, shit for brains Ruppert claims at 6:45 that Cheney was in charge of the war games!!!! What a hoot! You do realize that Cheney was put in charge of overseeing the creation of a group to oversee the wargames, right? I mean, this is really old news. Cheney had as much to do with the war games as you or I do. The office he was put in charge of creating WASN'T EVEN IN PLACE on 9/11! Yet this fucker is lying his ass off to you trying to pretend Cheney was in charge. If Cheney was in charge, why is it not ONE COMMAND from Cheney to the people running the war games was ever found?

At 7 minutes he makes a blatant lie. He claims that ALL the wargames but two were all centered around hijackings from within the United States and in the NEADS area. This is simply not true. ONE of the wargames had PART of it dealing with hijackings from overseas. And again, it took all of five seconds for NEADS to ask and get confirmation that what the FAA was dealing with was NOT part of the excercise.

Do you HONESTLY believe the military wouldn't have a contingency plan if a REAL attack happened at the same time excercises were going on? Because as idiotic as not having a way of telling reality from exercise is, that is EXACTLY what Ruppert is demanding you do in order for his fantasy to hold water.

Ruppert then goes on to pretend that the exercises directly involved the planes that were on standby for a real attack. This is proven untrue as those planes were both ready to be launched and WERE launched when NEADS ordered it.

THEN Ruppert goes on to pretend that Northern Vigilance pulled all the aircraft to the north, preventing any kind of response. Again, the events of 9/11 showed that aircraft were present, but not prepared, nor were they SUPPOSE to be prepared.

The FACT of the matter is there were only four aircraft on ready status for the North Eastern United States. This was by design and had not changed in decades. No amount of pretending by Ruppert changes this fact. I suppose this is just another piece of hard evidence he conveniently ignored in order to sell his books to mindless sheep.

THEN Ruppert pretends that the military was flying around remote controlled aircraft to simulate the hijacked aircraft for the military. Except NOTHING backs up his bullshit claim. NOTHING in six years shows the military was using or even had the capability then to use remote controlled aircraft to simulate hijacked aircraft. And why would they? Hijacked aircraft were to be escorted to a safe place to land, not be shot down. Why would anyone risk an unproven technology for no gain?

At 9:45, Ruppert again makes the claims the war games effectively paralized our response. HOW? NEADS asked and was informed that this was real world and launched fighters as it was suppose to upon request from the FAA. For someone who claims to have investigated this, this is an oversight that cannot and should not be excused by ANYONE.

At 13:30, Ruppert claims the radar injects were continued after the attack was known and that the FAA was having to deal with 22 hijackings at once. Yet this claim is not backed up by ANYONE other than him.

At 18:15 Ruppert starts going off on pretending that the Whitehouse should have been in contact by Giulliani. He then bases his whole argument on a lie. He pretends the only fighters launched towards NYC were from Otis. This is a lie you can easily verify for yourself. The fighters launched from Langley BEFORE the Pentagon was struck were heading for NYC due to the FAA believing Flight 11 was still in the air and heading south from the NYC area. How is it this gasbag doesn't know this? Oh right. Because otherwise he has nothing. The rest of the video is him pretending the Whitehouse HAD to be talking about Otis and thus nothing adds up. Well, yeah. If you start with a lie, it is VERY hard to get things to add up. When you work with the truth, it is very EASY to get things to add up.

OK, Tinmore. I watched your video. As predicted, it didn't bring to light one new or even remotely new item that hasn't been gone over a thousand times before. All it did was reconfirm to me that Ruppert is out to milk you stupid sheep for all you are worth by lying his ass off to anyone who will buy his books.

So, you are saying that Rupert made all this stuff up so he could sell books?

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZNsaajKQ9E&feature=related]YouTube - 9/11 Omission Hearings - Commissioners Review Evidence - 9/9/2004[/ame]

 

[Patriot911]

So, you are saying that Rupert made all this stuff up so he could sell books?

Yeah, I figured you would come back with a one line response. Did Ruppert make it ALL up? No. Did he do it to sell books? Yes. That is how he makes his living..... fleecing sheep like you.

So no other response to any of the blatant, easily verifiable lies Ruppert made? Or are you just going to ignore everything and continue on pretending Ruppert is right and Cheney was behind it all even though Ruppert didn't actually have any evidence and what he pretended was evidence was based on a lie?

 

[Patriot911]

Ah just as I suspected and responded to you on another thread,
to quote your statement above--
" Once again fucktard Jones goes down in more flames than a gay pride parade in San Francisco!"
Why is it you and your boyfriend Candycorn always refer to homo shit like this? I gues what I wrote about you 2 is true lol!!

Look you aren't kidding anybody, you were punked like the POS that you are on many occasions on here ever since your dumbass signed up here, I saved all your posts that show what garbage you really are. You constantly whine about proof this and that and we show you link you, post videos for your stupid ass, and you deny it exists. I have frustrated you to the point you had to be made to apologize to me for personal attacks on 2 fucking occasions.
You are a worthless mentally fucked in the head troll, and if anybody wants to know why all they got to do is read your history that is full of troll tactics, disinformation and outright lies and straight up BS.
You crave attention because you are a misfit mental case with homo tendencies, who has no meaningful life.
You are not worth my time or anyone else s, and I have spent countless hours and days knocking your ass kissing government apologists shit down, and when you were cornered and got all frustrated, you came at me with your pussy personal attacks
and you went on my ignore list, where you will promptly go again after this post.
I say again, that I guarantee your punk ass would never have the balls to come at anyone with your tough guy act, and the only thing saving you is the anonymity of the net and your keyboard, punk.
Now go try your lame tactics on someone else, because I've kicked your ass and had my way with you already too many times.
Now you run along and check up on your Pole Ho candy and spend some quality time together learning about how to fix your mental defects.

:lo: All you have left is insults, Jones. You got your ass kicked last time you tried to actually debate, so you pretend to ignore people until you've got enough insults built up. Think everyone else doesn't notice when I rip apart your bullshit? Like your bullshit about Northwoods proving 9/11 because the government "planned" something evil. Except it was planned by people in the government decades ago and never enacted. Anyone can be evil. Pretending the fact that evil people have been in government and have done evil things in the past is somehow proof that the government did it this time is so lame only a truly fucked up retard like you could pretend it is relevant.

 

[P F Tinmore]

So, you are saying that Rupert made all this stuff up so he could sell books?

Yeah, I figured you would come back with a one line response. Did Ruppert make it ALL up? No. Did he do it to sell books? Yes. That is how he makes his living..... fleecing sheep like you.

So no other response to any of the blatant, easily verifiable lies Ruppert made? Or are you just going to ignore everything and continue on pretending Ruppert is right and Cheney was behind it all even though Ruppert didn't actually have any evidence and what he pretended was evidence was based on a lie?

I am not saying that 9/11 was an inside job. There is still much to be learned. I post information to add other streams of thought to the issue. Of course others can do the same.

I do think, however, that there has been misinformation, secrecy, and cover ups that lead people to believe that something is not like they have been told.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83c4UIBC790]YouTube - UNGAGGED - Sibel Edmonds Talks 4/5[/ame]

 

[Patriot911]

So, you are saying that Rupert made all this stuff up so he could sell books?

Yeah, I figured you would come back with a one line response. Did Ruppert make it ALL up? No. Did he do it to sell books? Yes. That is how he makes his living..... fleecing sheep like you.

So no other response to any of the blatant, easily verifiable lies Ruppert made? Or are you just going to ignore everything and continue on pretending Ruppert is right and Cheney was behind it all even though Ruppert didn't actually have any evidence and what he pretended was evidence was based on a lie?

I am not saying that 9/11 was an inside job. There is still much to be learned. I post information to add other streams of thought to the issue. Of course others can do the same.

I do think, however, that there has been misinformation, secrecy, and cover ups that lead people to believe that something is not like they have been told.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83c4UIBC790]YouTube - UNGAGGED - Sibel Edmonds Talks 4/5[/ame]

In other words, you're here to spam, not discuss. And given your other posts, if you don't think 9/11 was an inside job, what DO you believe?

 

[Gamolon]

I am not saying that 9/11 was an inside job.

There is still much to be learned. I post information to add other streams of thought to the issue. Of course others can do the same.

And you show no signs of learning anything. You post your evidence and claims, we refute it, then you change he subject. You never debate anything.

Case in point. You post bullshit about the columns being cut in the twin towers. Evidence was posted to show you that they were cut by torches during cleanup. You ignore that and move on to another claim.

Yet you tag me as someone who "doesn't want to learn".

What a joke.

 

[Gamolon]

Yeah, I figured you would come back with a one line response. Did Ruppert make it ALL up? No. Did he do it to sell books? Yes. That is how he makes his living..... fleecing sheep like you.

So no other response to any of the blatant, easily verifiable lies Ruppert made? Or are you just going to ignore everything and continue on pretending Ruppert is right and Cheney was behind it all even though Ruppert didn't actually have any evidence and what he pretended was evidence was based on a lie?

I am not saying that 9/11 was an inside job. There is still much to be learned. I post information to add other streams of thought to the issue. Of course others can do the same.

I do think, however, that there has been misinformation, secrecy, and cover ups that lead people to believe that something is not like they have been told.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83c4UIBC790]YouTube - UNGAGGED - Sibel Edmonds Talks 4/5[/ame]

In other words, you're here to spam, not discuss. And given your other posts, if you don't think 9/11 was an inside job, what DO you believe?

Funny, I just posted the same thing.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I am not saying that 9/11 was an inside job.

There is still much to be learned. I post information to add other streams of thought to the issue. Of course others can do the same.

And you show no signs of learning anything. You post your evidence and claims, we refute it, then you change he subject. You never debate anything.

Case in point. You post bullshit about the columns being cut in the twin towers. Evidence was posted to show you that they were cut by torches during cleanup. You ignore that and move on to another claim.

Yet you tag me as someone who "doesn't want to learn".

What a joke.

Anyone familiar with cutting torches knows that the side of the torch is clean and the side away from the torch has all the slag. If you look at the center beam in this picture you will see slag on the outside. That would mean that the person with the torch would have to be inside the beam. I find that highly unlikely.

Also. for the building to fall straight down all the beams would have to fail at the exact same time otherwise it would fall over to one side. The chances that all the beams experienced the same heat for the same amount of time and have the same damage to their insulation is zero. You can try to spin that any way you want but it cannot happen.