75th Anniversary

[Mac-7]

That tired old story is banal speculation meant to avoid a difficult moral issue.

Not at all

an allied invasion of Japan would have resulted in massive loss of life

 

[Unkotare]

These psycho Leftist are trying to say America was immoral for nuking this kind of Leftist Evil?

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"Leftist"?

 

[Unkotare]

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The Nanking massacre alone. They could have surrendered ...

There were feelers out looking for a chance to negotiate a surrender, even before Okinawa. fdr had no interest in peace before testing his new toy. The lapdog truman filled out his master's final wish by incinerating hundreds of thousands of women, children, and the elderly.

How many thousands of women, children and elderly did the Jap[anese] murder during the war?
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Japanese civilians, or the Japanese military?

 

[Unkotare]

That tired old story is banal speculation meant to avoid a difficult moral issue.

Not at all

an allied invasion of Japan would have resulted in massive loss of life

That was not the only other option.

 

[Mac-7]

That was not the only other option.

I dont know what you have in mind but the bomb ended the war in the fastest and with the least loss of life

 

[westwall]

The atomic bomb saved a million lives, including both American and Japanese

That tired old story is banal speculation meant to avoid a difficult moral issue.

No, it is factual and supported by the experience on Saipan.

Look up pole bayonet. They were to be given to the civilians so they could tie them to poles and charge the US troops coming ashore.

That is a fact. The idea was to get under our firepower before to many got killed. It was madness. A madness that was only halted after Hirohito survived a coup attempt by those who wanted to fight to the end.

 

[Mac-7]

That is a fact. The idea was to get under our firepower before to many got killed. It was madness. A madness that was only halted after Hirohito survived a coup attempt by those who wanted to fight to the end.

True

Hirohito recorded his famous message to the japanese people and a group of army officers stormed the palace looking for the recording. They didnt find it and the coup failed

 

[Unkotare]

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The Nanking massacre alone. They could have surrendered ...

There were feelers out looking for a chance to negotiate a surrender, even before Okinawa. fdr had no interest in peace before testing his new toy. The lapdog truman filled out his master's final wish by incinerating hundreds of thousands of women, children, and the elderly.

That's a lie.....They wanted to end the war with their power intact.......

The conditions offered in peace overtures were the same ones that we ultimately accepted after incinerating hundreds of thousands of civilians.

Chicago Tribune History

Historical News and Comment Chicago Tribune History Michael A. Hoffman II Perhaps the most telling aspect of World War Two historical orthodoxy is its one-dimensional view of war criminals; by current definition these are the losers of a war. The winners decide the degree of the losers’...

www.ihr.org

 

[Unkotare]

That was not the only other option.

I dont [sic] know what you have in mind but the bomb ended the war in the fastest and with the least loss of life

More speculation.

 

[Mac-7]

More speculation.

that was the judgement of the military planners at the time

 

[BreezeWood]

75 years since a dark day in human history. Each year there are many ceremonies and visiting dignitaries who gather at the site to memorialize those who died that day, and to resolve to prevent any such actions by anyone in the future. This year, due to the Corona virus, only those remaining survivors and a few government officials were in attendance.

Hiroshima marks 75th A-bomb anniversary, urges unity amid pandemic

Hiroshima marks the 75th anniversary of its atomic bombing by the United States on Thursday, with its mayor urging the world to unite against grave threats to humanity -- be they nuclear weapons or the novel coronavirus pandemic -- by spurning nationalistic and isolationist policies.

english.kyodonews.net

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the bomb was doped when they first decided to build it ...

a war they were winning anyway.

 

[Unkotare]

The atomic bomb saved a million lives, including both American and Japanese

That tired old story is banal speculation meant to avoid a difficult moral issue.

No, it is factual and supported by the experience on Saipan.

Look up pole bayonet. They were to be given to the civilians so they could tie them to poles and charge the US troops coming ashore.

That is a fact. The idea was to get under our firepower before to many got killed. It was madness. A madness that was only halted after Hirohito survived a coup attempt by those who wanted to fight to the end.

Starving, demoralized women, children, and the elderly were not going to charge US Marines with sticks. You are swallowing 75 year old propaganda that was intended at the time to stir up civilian support, which had by then run just about out.

 

[Unkotare]

More speculation.

that was the judgement of the military planners at the time

Top military men at the time did not agree with the use of the atomic bomb on a defeated opponent's civilian population.

 

[Alexandre Fedorovski]

Originally posted by Theowl32
Yeah the Japanese reaped what they sowed.

And so did America.

Spot on! Muslims were so peaceful before that. We had to crush them in a world war to make them that peaceful. Which really wasn't all that peaceful, as you can see if you read about radical islam in the 1930s.

The one thing Democrats hate more then white people is Jews.

Is the House of Representatives (but black people) not TOTALLY Jewish???

 

[Mac-7]

Starving, demoralized women, children, and the elderly were not going to charge US Marines with sticks.

Do you want to bet?

15,000 civilians jumped off a cliff on Siapan

if they had been order to they would have just as readily charged enemy soldiers

 

[Mac-7]

Top military men at the time did not agree with the use of the atomic bomb on a defeated opponent's civilian population.

And others did agree with using the bomb

 

[Unkotare]

Starving, demoralized women, children, and the elderly were not going to charge US Marines with sticks.

Do you want to bet?

15,000 civilians jumped off a cliff on Siapan
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This is where your cultural ignorance comes into play.

 

[Unkotare]

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The Nanking massacre alone. They could have surrendered ...

There were feelers out looking for a chance to negotiate a surrender, even before Okinawa. fdr had no interest in peace before testing his new toy. The lapdog truman filled out his master's final wish by incinerating hundreds of thousands of women, children, and the elderly.

That's a lie.....They wanted to end the war with their power intact.....that wasn't going to happen.

archive.ph

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The atomic bomb saved a million lives, including both American and Japanese

That tired old story is banal speculation meant to avoid a difficult moral issue.

There is no moral issue. Japan started a war and lost. End of story.

 

[Unkotare]

The atomic bomb saved a million lives, including both American and Japanese

That tired old story is banal speculation meant to avoid a difficult moral issue.

There is no moral issue. Japan started a war and lost. End of story.

If you don't think that targeting and incinerating hundreds of thousands of civilians is a moral issue, you have a very serious moral issue.