73% of murders are concentrated in just 5% US counties...

[Failzero]

must be 1990s old, per google. Good deal. I find well maintained old trucks to be very cool.

69 ?

 

[MarathonMike]

murderers come in every color.

Denial of reality is a dangerous symptom.

 

[MarathonMike]

Cities in blue states are significantly safer.

Cities in blue states are significantly safer than what? Yemen? Haiti? Jeez Looeez even if you can't believe that horse shit.

 

[Missourian]

So what you do is, you make sure the user is safe, trained, and suitable to drive/use a vehicle on a public highway. The car is a car, anyone can crash it accidentally, on purpose, or steal it. But you have the system in place to try and make vehicle use safe.

Why not make a constitutional amendment that gives anyone the right to drive whatever they want, as fast as they want, and irrelevant if you have a dangerous police record and corning medical issues? What do you think would happen?

(It's like sitting down explaining to a 5 year old)

GET OFF MY CAR, COME TRY AND TAKE MY CAR, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DRIVE MY CAR

I don't have to do any of that to own a car.

I only have to do those things if I want to drive on government owned roads.

I can drive a car on private property and never have to do a single one of those things.

You get that, right?

 

[Missourian]

Yes we are truly terrible.

Finally some honesty.

 

[Captain Caveman]

I don't have to do any of that to own a car.

I only have to do those things if I want to drive on government owned roads.

I can drive a car on private property and never have to do a single one of those things.

You get that, right?

But you're American, a binary thinker. All cars, no cars. All take aways, no takeaways. All guns, no guns.

The common sense is out there, how do you kill common sense, "Mouth froth mouth froth, 2nd amendment, rights, mouth froth, limey, mouth froth, come take my guns, mouth froth, we kicked your ass, mouth froth, bow to your king, mouth growth mouth froth", (add extra cliché shit on).

You pick any aspect of your life where you are subjected to laws and regulations. Try to get beyond the age of 5 and grow up.

 

[Failzero]

Comparing Camden NJ to Twin Falls Idaho =

 

[Missourian]

But you're American, a binary thinker. All cars, no cars. All take aways, no takeaways. All guns, no guns.

The common sense is out there, how do you kill common sense, "Mouth froth mouth froth, 2nd amendment, rights, mouth froth, limey, mouth froth, come take my guns, mouth froth, we kicked your ass, mouth froth, bow to your king, mouth growth mouth froth", (add extra cliché shit on).

You pick any aspect of your life where you are subjected to laws and regulations. Try to get beyond the age of 5 and grow up.

It's not my fault your analogy sucks.

When I petitioning the government to allow me to shoot my firearms on government property...I get a hunting licence...which I have...and a requirement of the hunting license today is the completion of a hunters and firearm safety course...which I complied with even though I am as a veteran, exempt.

But simply to own a firearm is like simply owning a car...there is no requirement for license or insurance or training or the myriad of other dumb shit gun grabbers wish to tie to firearm ownership.

The answer is NO.

Why you ask?

Because we don't trust you.

It's as simple as that.

 

[Captain Caveman]

It's not my fault your analogy sucks.

When I petitioning the government to allow me to shoot my firearms on government property...I get a hunting licence...which I have...and a requirement of the hunting license today is the completion of a hunters and firearm safety course...which I complied with even though I am as a veteran, exempt.

But simply to own a firearm is like simply owning a car...there is no requirement for license or insurance or training or the myriad of other dumb shit gun grabbers wish to tie to firearm ownership.

The answer is NO.

Why you ask?

Because we don't trust you.

It's as simple as that.

Yes, have a licence. Get your police record checked, get your medical history checked, get your gun storage cabinet checked, get your driving history (if you have one) checked, get your references checked, and you have a good valid reason (hunting on your land and hunting on government land), and if everything checks out ok then away you go with a gun, just like in the UK.

If your reason is, "Well, I might need to shoot a burglar or one of my many enemies", then in the UK you would denied a gun. No one in the UK grabs a gun off you, it's up to you and you alone to be of good suitable character. If you get denied a gun, it's your own fault.

It's not all guns or no guns here, it's not binary, it's middle ground. Don't worry, I know you won't be able to comprehend that. You personally need a gun like an alcoholic needs beer, our culture doesn't give a stuff about firearms.

Just before you default to knives, deaths in the UK per 100 people is 0.08. In the USA it's 0.6. The UK is at the bottom of the stats with 4 other countries.

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[Missourian]

Yes, have a licence. Get your police record checked, get your medical history checked, get your gun storage cabinet checked, get your driving history (if you have one) checked, get your references checked, and you have a good valid reason (hunting on your land and hunting on government land), and if everything checks out ok then away you go with a gun, just like in the UK.

If your reason is, "Well, I might need to shoot a burglar or one of my many enemies", then in the UK you would denied a gun. No one in the UK grabs a gun off you, it's up to you and you alone to be of good suitable character. If you get denied a gun, it's your own fault.

It's not all guns or no guns here, it's not binary, it's middle ground. Don't worry, I know you won't be able to comprehend that. You personally need a gun like an alcoholic needs beer, our culture doesn't give a stuff about firearms.

Just before you default to knives, deaths in the UK per 100 people is 0.08. In the USA it's 0.6. The UK is at the bottom of the stats with 4 other countries.

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

The difference between being a subject and a citizen.

You have subject mentality.

"I must que up and get permission from the Crown to exercise my God given rights. Please pat me on the head Your Highness and tell me I'm a good chap."

You'll never understand what freedom really means.

 

[westwall]

But you're American, a binary thinker. All cars, no cars. All take aways, no takeaways. All guns, no guns.

The common sense is out there, how do you kill common sense, "Mouth froth mouth froth, 2nd amendment, rights, mouth froth, limey, mouth froth, come take my guns, mouth froth, we kicked your ass, mouth froth, bow to your king, mouth growth mouth froth", (add extra cliché shit on).

You pick any aspect of your life where you are subjected to laws and regulations. Try to get beyond the age of 5 and grow up.

Better than you, a unitary thinker.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Passing you on the street every day. These are called, "police officers".

Test it. Drive a car missing its windshield. Drive a car missing its seat belt. Drive a car missing a door, or a tire. Report back.

I'm not sure doors are a requirement. Jeeps drive all the time with doors removed. Spare tires aren't a requirement and other than Gama Goats, I can't think of a vehicle than can be driven with an operational wheel missing.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yes, have a licence. Get your police record checked, get your medical history checked, get your gun storage cabinet checked, get your driving history (if you have one) checked, get your references checked, and you have a good valid reason (hunting on your land and hunting on government land), and if everything checks out ok then away you go with a gun, just like in the UK.

If your reason is, "Well, I might need to shoot a burglar or one of my many enemies", then in the UK you would denied a gun. No one in the UK grabs a gun off you, it's up to you and you alone to be of good suitable character. If you get denied a gun, it's your own fault.

It's not all guns or no guns here, it's not binary, it's middle ground. Don't worry, I know you won't be able to comprehend that. You personally need a gun like an alcoholic needs beer, our culture doesn't give a stuff about firearms.

Just before you default to knives, deaths in the UK per 100 people is 0.08. In the USA it's 0.6. The UK is at the bottom of the stats with 4 other countries.

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

The key thing that you don't recognize as a problem is that THE GOVERNMENT gets to decide if you are both eligible and have a need for a gun of any sort. Even if it deigns to admit that you should have the privilege, you can only own a gun from a very short list of ones, that again, THE GOVEWRNMENT, finds acceptable for you. I realize that always having been a subject of the Crown, you don't find this an imposition, but here in the USA, the government is designed to work FOR us, not dictate TO us.

 

[Failzero]

The key thing that you don't recognize as a problem is that THE GOVERNMENT gets to decide if you are both eligible and have a need for a gun of any sort. Even if it deigns to admit that you should have the privilege, you can only own a gun from a very short list of ones, that again, THE GOVEWRNMENT, finds acceptable for you. I realize that always having been a subject of the Crown, you don't find this an imposition, but here in the USA, the government is designed to work FOR us, not dictate TO us.

The Feds are targeting Carry Permits on a National Level

 

[Captain Caveman]

The key thing that you don't recognize as a problem is that THE GOVERNMENT gets to decide if you are both eligible and have a need for a gun of any sort. Even if it deigns to admit that you should have the privilege, you can only own a gun from a very short list of ones, that again, THE GOVEWRNMENT, finds acceptable for you. I realize that always having been a subject of the Crown, you don't find this an imposition, but here in the USA, the government is designed to work FOR us, not dictate TO us.

The government doesn't, yet another inept American fool. Let me educate another retard. You do not apply to the government, your application is scrutinized by your local police department. They must find a reason why you can't, and as I've said before, that was up to you with your police and medical etc.. record. If everything checks out, then away you go with a gun.

And that is why Americans are thick as fuck with guns, because they just give every idiot a gun. And you sound like a prime candidate.

Laws don't and will not stop incidents, they reduce. That's why you retards will top the gun charts for centuries to come, you can't fix stoopid, and America is totally off the stoopid scale.

 

[AZrailwhale]

The government doesn't, yet another inept American fool. Let me educate another retard. You do not apply to the government, your application is scrutinized by your local police department. They must find a reason why you can't, and as I've said before, that was up to you with your police and medical etc.. record. If everything checks out, then away you go with a gun.

And that is why Americans are thick as fuck with guns, because they just give every idiot a gun. And you sound like a prime candidate.

Laws don't and will not stop incidents, they reduce. That's why you retards will top the gun charts for centuries to come, you can't fix stoopid, and America is totally off the stoopid scale.

Your local police department is part of the government you idiot.

Criminals don't obey laws, that's why they are criminals. Laws don't affect the actions of criminals at all.

 

[Failzero]

Your local police department is part of the government you idiot.

Criminals don't obey laws, that's why they are criminals. Laws don't affect the actions of criminals at all.

Shasta County Sheriff is less so than the Redding Police Chief

 

[Captain Caveman]

Your local police department is part of the government you idiot.

Criminals don't obey laws, that's why they are criminals. Laws don't affect the actions of criminals at all.

You utter utter utter utter fucking retard. You utter utter utter utter fucking retard.

Do you think your local police department rings Biden? You utter utter utter utter fucking retard.

Put your fucking parents on, can't debate with fucking retards

 

[2aguy]

But you're American, a binary thinker. All cars, no cars. All take aways, no takeaways. All guns, no guns.

The common sense is out there, how do you kill common sense, "Mouth froth mouth froth, 2nd amendment, rights, mouth froth, limey, mouth froth, come take my guns, mouth froth, we kicked your ass, mouth froth, bow to your king, mouth growth mouth froth", (add extra cliché shit on).

You pick any aspect of your life where you are subjected to laws and regulations. Try to get beyond the age of 5 and grow up.

We have thousands of gun laws....you know this. You are simply a thick British clod.

Our problem isn't law abiding gun owners.

Our problem, soon to be your problem, is leftists/democrats, who refuse to lock up repeat, violent gun offenders.

 

[2aguy]

The government doesn't, yet another inept American fool. Let me educate another retard. You do not apply to the government, your application is scrutinized by your local police department. They must find a reason why you can't, and as I've said before, that was up to you with your police and medical etc.. record. If everything checks out, then away you go with a gun.

And that is why Americans are thick as fuck with guns, because they just give every idiot a gun. And you sound like a prime candidate.

Laws don't and will not stop incidents, they reduce. That's why you retards will top the gun charts for centuries to come, you can't fix stoopid, and America is totally off the stoopid scale.

We don't top Europe......

Europe...

In the 1920s, they began the process of registering guns....to make their people safer. That was the lie. by the mid 1930s, the socialists in Germany began the process of banning and confiscating guns, and the same for the countries they defeated......using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....

By 1939, the German socialists began to murder 15 million - 20 million people....in 6 years.....men, women and over 1 million children.

6 years, 15 million- 20 million murdered citizens..not war dead, innocent people rounded up and murdered in camps and forests....

15 million in 6 years.

In the United States, gun murder for our entire 247 year history?

Around 2,470,000

Europe.... 15-20 million in 6 years.

U.S..... 2,470,000 in 247 years.

Now the math part...get out your pencil....

How many hundreds of years will it take the U.S. to catch up with the number of Europeans murdered by their governments.....

Lives saved....based on research? By law abiding gun owners using guns to stop criminals?

Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct

There are roughly 100,000 people shot in the United States yearly, and something over 30,000 die. If this 1/3 vs. 2/3 ratio of deaths to injuries in actual shootings pertains in these DGUs, that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—less some attackers who lost their lives to defenders. This enormous benefit dwarfs, both in human and economic terms, the losses trumpeted by hoplophobes who only choose to see the risk side of the equation.