6th Circuit Federal Appeals Court Gives Thumb's Up to States' Choice on Gay Marriage

[PaintMyHouse]

Mr. Paint............

I have read polls that America wants all men to wear Panty hose............

Disprove me.............I have read the polls and you are obligated to disprove my information.......If you fail to do so then I obviously am right.

I know the polling. Your turn.

Negative.........that discussion is over. Polls are not laws..............and they can be biased based on the site...........and you have provided nothing to even do math on.

I'm done discussing imaginary polls with you...............

They aren't imaginary, you just reject what they say, since it's reality and it disagrees with you.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That depends very much on what is being decided. It's a not a blanket policy.

That applies to a very narrow band of issues. This isnt one of them.

Oh but it is, which is why gay marriage is now legal in most of the country. Soon enough, all of the country.

The 6th Circuit seems to disagree.

Yes, I noticed that, but they are wrong and that will be fixed soon enough.

Because you, great legal scholar, says so.
LOL!

No scholarship is required. It's simple human decency, which is why you don't understand it.

 

[The Rabbi]

Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.

Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.

No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.

The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.

The only polls that count are the actual referenda. And gay marriage has largely been a loser.

Not anymore. If that's your criteria then you've lost in all recent cases.

What an absurdity.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.

No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.

The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.

I din't bring in math equations to this discussion...............You did..............and the burden of proof is on you to prove math equations...........

Yet I'm supposed to do research to legitimize your side of the equation to challenge numbers you never posted.

Don't think so.

If you wish to try as disprove what I said, that the majority of Americans now support gay marriage, then do so. It will do you good to read the polls and realize that this dog no longer hunts.

You have not pushed forward anything to disprove..............and since when are polls the defining act in law.

I could start a poll on this board and only ask people I want to vote and justify that people here think you are a loser..................In other words a polled 10 people that think Paint is a loon and they agreed that he is a loon and therefore it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Paint is a lunatic......................

The polls say so.........

and why should I place so much confidence in polls that are usually skewed to the sector applying them.

Your full-on rejection of reality is noted.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.

No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.

The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.

The only polls that count are the actual referenda. And gay marriage has largely been a loser.

Not anymore. If that's your criteria then you've lost in all recent cases.

What an absurdity.

You picked the criteria. Next time be more careful.

 

[The Rabbi]

That applies to a very narrow band of issues. This isnt one of them.

Oh but it is, which is why gay marriage is now legal in most of the country. Soon enough, all of the country.

The 6th Circuit seems to disagree.

Yes, I noticed that, but they are wrong and that will be fixed soon enough.

Because you, great legal scholar, says so.
LOL!

No scholarship is required. It's simple human decency, which is why you don't understand it.

Yes you are the party of simple human decency.
I am the party of democracy.
Guess which one wins.

 

[The Rabbi]

No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.

The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.

The only polls that count are the actual referenda. And gay marriage has largely been a loser.

Not anymore. If that's your criteria then you've lost in all recent cases.

What an absurdity.

You picked the criteria. Next time be more careful.

No need. I won that round. You cannot cherry pick results to suit you.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Oh but it is, which is why gay marriage is now legal in most of the country. Soon enough, all of the country.

The 6th Circuit seems to disagree.

Yes, I noticed that, but they are wrong and that will be fixed soon enough.

Because you, great legal scholar, says so.
LOL!

No scholarship is required. It's simple human decency, which is why you don't understand it.

Yes you are the party of simple human decency.
I am the party of democracy.
Guess which one wins.

We don't have a Democracy, and in this case my side wins.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.

The only polls that count are the actual referenda. And gay marriage has largely been a loser.

Not anymore. If that's your criteria then you've lost in all recent cases.

What an absurdity.

You picked the criteria. Next time be more careful.

No need. I won that round. You cannot cherry pick results to suit you.

I had no need to cherry-pick, you've lost all recent votes. As I said, next time be more careful.

 

[eagle1462010]

The only polls that count are the actual referenda. And gay marriage has largely been a loser.

Not anymore. If that's your criteria then you've lost in all recent cases.

What an absurdity.

You picked the criteria. Next time be more careful.

No need. I won that round. You cannot cherry pick results to suit you.

I had no need to cherry-pick, you've lost all recent votes. As I said, next time be more careful.

States have passed bans on gay marriage................

Period.....................

That's not a poll but a FACT...............

Your argument is lost.

 

[eagle1462010]

Current U.S. state constitutional amendments banning legal recognition of same-sex unions, by type
Constitutional amendment bans same-sex marriage, civil unions, and any marriage-like contract between unmarried persons
Constitutional amendment bans same-sex marriage and civil unions
Constitutional amendment bans same-sex marriage
No state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of same-sex unions currently being enforced

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Not anymore. If that's your criteria then you've lost in all recent cases.

What an absurdity.

You picked the criteria. Next time be more careful.

No need. I won that round. You cannot cherry pick results to suit you.

I had no need to cherry-pick, you've lost all recent votes. As I said, next time be more careful.

States have passed bans on gay marriage................

Period.....................

That's not a poll but a FACT...............

Your argument is lost.

They did pass bans, but now they don't, and most of those bans have been tossed by the courts, and most of the country now has legal gay marriage. Who's losing again?

 

[eagle1462010]

Proposition 8
Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment
Results Yes or no Votes Percentage Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Invalid or blank votes 340,611 2.48% Total votes 13,743,177 100.00% Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 [TBODY] [/TBODY]

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[PaintMyHouse]

Current U.S. state constitutional amendments banning legal recognition of same-sex unions, by type
Constitutional amendment bans same-sex marriage, civil unions, and any marriage-like contract between unmarried persons
Constitutional amendment bans same-sex marriage and civil unions
Constitutional amendment bans same-sex marriage
No state constitutional amendment banning legal recognition of same-sex unions currently being enforced

A very nice map, but can you tell me why it doesn't matter?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Proposition 8
Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment
Results Yes or no Votes Percentage Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Invalid or blank votes 340,611 2.48% Total votes 13,743,177 100.00% Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Wonderful, the results of a vote the courts decided was Unconstitutional.

 

[eagle1462010]

What an absurdity.

You picked the criteria. Next time be more careful.

No need. I won that round. You cannot cherry pick results to suit you.

I had no need to cherry-pick, you've lost all recent votes. As I said, next time be more careful.

States have passed bans on gay marriage................

Period.....................

That's not a poll but a FACT...............

Your argument is lost.

They did pass bans, but now they don't, and most of those bans have been tossed by the courts, and most of the country now has legal gay marriage. Who's losing again?

And a Court has held these bans are legal.....................

So, given your illogical conclusion..............I must accept the courts that said same sex bans are illegal.................

Nah, I will choose the new ruling........................and discard the old rulings............................

Is that how it works in your fairy tale world.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Proposition 8
Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment
Results Yes or no Votes Percentage Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Invalid or blank votes 340,611 2.48% Total votes 13,743,177 100.00% Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Wonderful, the results of a vote the courts decided was Unconstitutional.

And doesn't include any vote since then either.

 

[eagle1462010]

Proposition 8
Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment
Results Yes or no Votes Percentage Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Invalid or blank votes 340,611 2.48% Total votes 13,743,177 100.00% Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Wonderful, the results of a vote the courts decided was Unconstitutional.

and again another Federal Court disagreed with this court....................

Which is exactly why the SCOTUS has to make a final ruling...........Dumb ass................

Which part of that equation don't you understand.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You picked the criteria. Next time be more careful.

No need. I won that round. You cannot cherry pick results to suit you.

I had no need to cherry-pick, you've lost all recent votes. As I said, next time be more careful.

States have passed bans on gay marriage................

Period.....................

That's not a poll but a FACT...............

Your argument is lost.

They did pass bans, but now they don't, and most of those bans have been tossed by the courts, and most of the country now has legal gay marriage. Who's losing again?

And a Court has held these bans are legal.....................

So, given your illogical conclusion..............I must accept the courts that said same sex bans are illegal.................

Nah, I will choose the new ruling........................and discard the old rulings............................

Is that how it works in your fairy tale world.

Fairytale is believing that gay marriage isn't coming to all of the US, very soon.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Proposition 8
Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment
Results Yes or no Votes Percentage Yes 7,001,084 52.24% No 6,401,482 47.76% Valid votes 13,402,566 97.52% Invalid or blank votes 340,611 2.48% Total votes 13,743,177 100.00% Voter turnout 79.42% Electorate 17,304,428 [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Wonderful, the results of a vote the courts decided was Unconstitutional.

And doesn't include any vote since then either.

Nope, but according to the polling if the vote was held today, you'd lose.