The anti-war movement before WWII was not a communist plot, PC.
While it is true that the American Communists also didn't think America should go to war they were a very small part of that Isolationist movement.
Americans were really responding to the long held belief (started by the founding fathers, mostly) that the USA was better off not getting involved in Europeans wars.
So unless you think George Washington was a commie, you might want to read some real history to understand that sentiment
No, actually I don't.
Communists were they, according to you?
Interesting but not relevant to your original point. Your point, let me remind you was that the communist were behind the isolations sentiment pre WWII. Sheer blather that.
And were all those votes the votes of communists, you think?
Yeah, interesting, still not relevant to the point in contention
No? The following sure as hell sounded like that to me:
Of course you're jamming so many different issues together that it is easily misunderstood.
Yeah, I wouldn't argue that point.
The Communist Party of the USA were tools of Stalin.
Evidently you are incorrect in your statement "American Communists also didn't think America should go to war..." as they reversed their position after June 22, 1941.
No, I was right because I were talking about war sentiment before Hitler and Stalin went to war, and the discussion was limited to the communist influence as it regarded the isolationist movement.
The communist party of the USA was opposed to the war when Stalin and Hitler had a pact and then reversed that position when the Soviets were threatened.
That's because they were fucking Soviet quislings, the lot of them.
Nevertheless, the American communists were not remotely in charge of, or responsible for the isloationist sentiment that was a huge part of the scene at the time.
Americans, quite rightly were disgusted with Europeans, the treaty of Versailles, and they wanted nothing to do with fighting in Europe because they'd just done that in WWI and just look what a mess that Europe had made of things
again!
That and American isolationism was fairly common political sentiment in the USA since 1789.
It was a long held belief that Europe was corrupt, their roayl families immoral, and that the best thing America could do is stay out of their petty family conflicts.
Since I write with precision, it is incumbent upon you to read with the same level of precision.
From my original post of this thread: "...organized protests and marches in support of isolation and keeping the United States out of the war, ..."
Once you clean those coke-bottle thick horn-rims, you will, I am sure, agree that the operative phrase was "in support of.'
Support means to back: be behind; approve of.
Although I believe that the communists of the time were clearly isolationists, you will be hard pressed to find a definition of 'support' which means to lead, control, or be the sole initiator of. (sorry to end a sentence with a preposition)
" ...played a prominent role in the U.S. labor movement from the 1920s through the 1940s, founding most of the country's major industrial unions..."
You suggest the unions were not thoroughly infiltrated with same. Do you actully wish to defend that point?
Henry Wallace was well identified with the Soviets, and later in life wrote a letter of apology to the America public with reference to same. As for "...And were all those votes the votes of communists,...", an obfuscation beneath you.
The reason for my posts in this thread was to make the point that communists, true believers, were paid agents of a foreign power, paid in money or ideology. I made my point clearly and stongly, and I apprecitate your agreement with same ("Yeah, I wouldn't argue that point.")
As for your claim of rectitude, "No, I was right because I were talking about war sentiment before Hitler and Stalin went to war, and the discussion was limited to the communist influence as it regarded the isolationist movement," it is empty, flaccid and pointless, since the straw man argument that you claim to win was not the argument in question.
Again, your statement "the American communists were not remotely in charge of, or responsible for the isloationist sentiment" misses the point. Should you require further explanation as to why, see my reference to the word "support."
Nevertheless, it's been fun.
