5 things to know about the latest Minneapolis shooting

I can’t believe how quickly the Trump administration reacts with lies and misinformation. No attempt to gather facts before blaming the victim

Immediately they
Called Pretti a Domestic Terrorist
Said he was brandishing a gun
Attacked his second amendment rights to carry
I believe Trump is at a crossroads on this in that if he relents, he will be attacked as TACO for months until the election. Send the illegals home. So, we survive a little longer. Jerry brown had all the answers as antiwar and gaining power in the late 1960's. So, he was governor for 8 years and mayor of Oakland for 8 years and the state is worse off. Oakland isa worse ghetto. They cannot even afford to procure money into a new stadium for their teams. They had NFL, Major League baseball, NHL, and National basketball Association there. And they are all gone. They got a ghetto mayor now. They settled at that level and stayed there. Yeah, Jerry brown had all the answers. And now morning in America in some areas is sunsetting. Minneapolis is a city that is heading there. Its sister city doing the same it seems.
 
"Free speech" doesn't include impeding and obstructing LE, assclown.

I repeat: GFY.
Law enforcement does not include murdering peaceful protesters
 
There is tons of corruption on both sides of the fence. And had Pretti been aggressive towards the shooter then I may see things differently. But last time I checked, our Constitution gives us the right to speak, assemble, and carry guns. Whether we like Pretti or not ... he's an American citizen who's protected by the Constitution. He had been disarmed then murdered. Simple as that.
That goes without saying and all over the country. But this just popped a couple weeks ago. He was in every newspaper and news broadcast..

Weird that ICE are operating in dozens of states, but it only gets violent in the one where we just uncovered multi billion dollar fraud ring with probable links to the governor.

The constitution only matters to the lefties when they can wrap the selves in it and the flag .. .All you libertarians can and carry on about it all you want.

Every other day it's old and meaningless to them
 
Law enforcement does not include murdering peaceful protesters


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That goes without saying and all over the country. But this just popped a couple weeks ago. He was in every newspaper and news broadcast..

Weird that ICE are operating in dozens of states, but it only gets violent in the one where we just uncovered multi billion dollar fraud ring with probable links to the governor.

The constitution only matters to the lefties when they can wrap the selves in it and the flag .. .All you libertarians can and carry on about it all you want.

Every other day it's old and meaningless to them
Some truth to that. I'm all for deporting anyone and everyone who's here illegally. I'm all for arresting politicians (State or Federal) who are involved in fraudulent activity. I'm all for shooting someone in self defense when they're threatening your life.

I'm opposed to shooting unarmed Americans who exercise their Constitutional rights to free speech; freedom to assemble; freedom to film and document government activities; and who exercise their 2nd Amendment, God-given right to carry.
 
Some truth to that. I'm all for deporting anyone and everyone who's here illegally. I'm all for arresting politicians (State or Federal) who are involved in fraudulent activity. I'm all for shooting someone in self defense when they're threatening your life.

I'm opposed to shooting unarmed Americans who exercise their Constitutional rights to free speech; freedom to assemble; freedom to film and document government activities; and who exercise their 2nd Amendment, God-given right to carry.
Riddle me this. Do you support the right to IMPEDE or OBSTRUCT LEOs who are moving to arrest an illegal?
 
Riddle me this. Do you support the right to IMPEDE or OBSTRUCT LEOs who are moving to arrest an illegal?
No. I don't. But the man was across the street filming events with his cell phone. That's not "obstruction." And trying to protect a woman who is NOT an illegal alien is called "chivalry." It used to be part of a man's moral code way, way back in the day. You likely haven't heard of it.
 
No. I don't. But the man was across the street filming events with his cell phone. That's not "obstruction." And trying to protect a woman who is NOT an illegal alien is called "chivalry." It used to be part of a man's moral code way, way back in the day. You likely haven't heard of it.
What were these women doing im the road? What was their purpose?
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Why was Pretti there at all?
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Yoh got to love how his friends say he was a calm guy that loved people and only came to protest because of his love for people

When my parents protested the demklan back in the 60s they showed up with signs…the klan showed up with pistols like this guy
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Law enforcement does not include murdering peaceful protesters
Peaceful protesters keep a respectful distance from agents, not actively interfering with them.
It is not murder when engaging Federal agents while armed.
 
Peaceful protesters keep a respectful distance from agents, not actively interfering with them.
It is not murder when engaging Federal agents while armed.
Read the second amendment

I can’t believe how Republicans are now opposing the right to carry because Trump tells them to
 
I think it is stupid to attend a protest while armed
But the NRA keeps reminding us of our second amendment rights
At no time did Pretti remove or brandish a firearm

Was he struggling?
Yes he was
But that is the reaction when you have been pepper sprayed and are fighting to clear it from your eyes

If they pepper spray you and you decide to fight about it, that would be a fair indication of exactly what is about to happen to you, and that my friend is "situation awareness", or actually being aware of the situation you are in.

I am an avid firearms owner and supporter of the Second Amendment and will never give the NRA a dime.
Being responsible with a firearm does not include simply yourself and what you desire to do.

In the post you quoted I talked about situation awareness which is the ability to understand the situation you are in and the consequences you may suffer for doing something carless or stupid simply because it crosses your mind and seems like it might be okay.

Law enforcement officers are most certainly conscious of losing their own firearm during a struggle with a noncompliant subject.
If the subject is armed and noncompliant, it doesn't take much to understand how that is going to be treated.

I am not making excuses but understanding the situation, and how little my desires may have to do with what is going to happen, and that is situation awareness and pertinent when carrying a firearm.

Firearms are not toys.
They have serious consequences involved, and if you ever lose a grip on that reality, tragedy will most likely occur.
I just wish that whatever ******* game these people are playing, they could understand that they give up a lot of ground when they start doing some seriously stupid shit, and get the equally stupid idea that they are important enough the entire world will stop long enough for them to get their ass back on the right page with everyone else in it.

In every circumstance that ends in tragedy something could have been handled differently, but it wasn't and dead is dead no matter what someone's opinion may be, and I will not absolutely ignore the culpability of every damn person involved because all US Citizens have rights, and not just stupid motherfuckers that think the world revolves around them and their desires.

These are all things people should know when they decide to carry a firearm, because you are deciding to add dynamite into the mix (figuratively speaking) and you had better know what the **** you are doing and what it means to everyone involved (not just yourself).

Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six, and way more productive at accomplishing something worthwhile that may actually address your desires without endangering yourself or others.
 
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Read the second amendment

I can’t believe how Republicans are now opposing the right to carry because Trump tells them to
You can carry legally, just not around Federal agents arresting criminals.
If Pretti kept a respectful distance he'd still be alive.
 
I can’t believe how quickly the Trump administration reacts with lies and misinformation. No attempt to gather facts before blaming the victim

Immediately they
Called Pretti a Domestic Terrorist
Said he was brandishing a gun
Attacked his second amendment rights to carry
This is typical of authoritarian regimes. It may have worked in Hungary and Russia. But trump is gonna have to pay off a lot of people for it to work here. And that is not happening.
 
You can carry legally, just not around Federal agents arresting criminals.
If Pretti kept a respectful distance he'd still be alive.

Show where that is against the law with a gun in its holster

The video shows differently
He was helping a woman ICE had shoved to the ground and had his back to ICE
ICE jumped him, pepper sprayed him and three agents threw him to the ground

The visuals are disturbing
 
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