400ppm

[SSDD]

CO2 does both, it is a feedback mechanism in most cases, because it generally only acts upon CO2 sources that are temporarily stored in the active carbon cycle of the Earth's environment.

Prove it.

 

[SSDD]

Please link to any journal published scientific paper or proposal of AGW that states that AGW will result in an unceasing, year to year increase of average global temperatures, which is what your assertion claims:

Please link to any journal published paper that describes how the hypothesis that additional CO2 in the atmosphere causes warming has been proven. Surely something that warrants having hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions of dollars spent on it has been proven via hard, observed, measured, repeatable experiment. Please link to that experiment, or real world observation that proves your claims according to the scientific method.

 

[SSDD]

There is no compelling evidence that there has ever been a "pause in warming," there are certainly warmer and cooler atmospheric temperature years even on a global average. This has to do with differentials in the way in which energy is distributed throughout the surface air, waters and land of our planet, but as CO2 levels rise, increasing amounts of energy are being retained by our atmosphere and distributed through our planet's surface environments.

There is no compelling evidence that CO2 causes warming. The temperature record itself is compelling evidence....no...proof that there has been a "pause" in the warming. Only the truely crazed continue to believe that the warming didn't stop nearly 2 decades ago. The only things still claiming warming are crazies and computer models.

 

[Old Rocks]

One has to wonder about the level of intelligence displayed here by people such as Westwall, SSDD, and others. We had a very strong El Nino in 1998. And the temperatures peaked. Since then we have had moderate El Nino's and strong La Nina's. Yet, twice, since 1998, we have matched that peak, 2005, and 2010, even though 2005 does not show on Dr. Spencer's chart.

What does show is that the running 13 month average since 1997, has been at about 0.2 on his chart, above all but the highest monthly readings prior to that time, and well above the running 13 month averages prior to 1997.

UAH Global Temperature Update for May 2013: +0.07 deg. C « Roy Spencer, PhD

 

[Old Rocks]

There is no compelling evidence that there has ever been a "pause in warming," there are certainly warmer and cooler atmospheric temperature years even on a global average. This has to do with differentials in the way in which energy is distributed throughout the surface air, waters and land of our planet, but as CO2 levels rise, increasing amounts of energy are being retained by our atmosphere and distributed through our planet's surface environments.

There is no compelling evidence that CO2 causes warming. The temperature record itself is compelling evidence....no...proof that there has been a "pause" in the warming. Only the truely crazed continue to believe that the warming didn't stop nearly 2 decades ago. The only things still claiming warming are crazies and computer models.

So you say. Yet the American Institute of Physics, the largest scientific society in the world, says just the opposite.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Oh, who to believe, an internet poster, or the people in the world's biggest organization of Physicists?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One has to wonder about the level of intelligence displayed here by people such as Westwall, SSDD, and others. We had a very strong El Nino in 1998. And the temperatures peaked. Since then we have had moderate El Nino's and strong La Nina's. Yet, twice, since 1998, we have matched that peak, 2005, and 2010, even though 2005 does not show on Dr. Spencer's chart.

What does show is that the running 13 month average since 1997, has been at about 0.2 on his chart, above all but the highest monthly readings prior to that time, and well above the running 13 month averages prior to 1997.

UAH Global Temperature Update for May 2013: +0.07 deg. C « Roy Spencer, PhD

Pay no attention to the data Dorothy, global warming is for real!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There is no compelling evidence that there has ever been a "pause in warming," there are certainly warmer and cooler atmospheric temperature years even on a global average. This has to do with differentials in the way in which energy is distributed throughout the surface air, waters and land of our planet, but as CO2 levels rise, increasing amounts of energy are being retained by our atmosphere and distributed through our planet's surface environments.

There is no compelling evidence that CO2 causes warming. The temperature record itself is compelling evidence....no...proof that there has been a "pause" in the warming. Only the truely crazed continue to believe that the warming didn't stop nearly 2 decades ago. The only things still claiming warming are crazies and computer models.

So you say. Yet the American Institute of Physics, the largest scientific society in the world, says just the opposite.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Oh, who to believe, an internet poster, or the people in the world's biggest organization of Physicists?

They can say anything they want, where's the experimental evidence?

 

[SSDD]

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Oh, who to believe, an internet poster, or the people in the world's biggest organization of Physicists?

Where is the hard evidence upon which that largest organization of physisists bases their claim? If they all believe it, as opposed to just the political head as I believe, surely there is hard evidence somewhere that proves that an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere results in an increase of temperature. Where is it? Show me.

Once again, which part of the information in that link, or any of the links it contains provides proof of the claim that additional CO2 causes increased temperatures. I have read all of it and there is nothing there insofar as proof or even measured observation. There are plenty of claims, and assumptions, and mights and maybes, but nothing that could be construed as rising to the level of proof.

If it's there, tell me where it is.

 

[Trakar]

CO2 does both, it is a feedback mechanism in most cases, because it generally only acts upon CO2 sources that are temporarily stored in the active carbon cycle of the Earth's environment.

Prove it.

"Proofs" are for syllogisms, they have nothing to do with the real world. Science relies upon the accumulation of supportive evidences and consistency within the body of relevant understandings. Links to those have already been provided.

 

[SSDD]

CO2 does both, it is a feedback mechanism in most cases, because it generally only acts upon CO2 sources that are temporarily stored in the active carbon cycle of the Earth's environment.

Prove it.

"Proofs" are for syllogisms, they have nothing to do with the real world. Science relies upon the accumulation of supportive evidences and consistency within the body of relevant understandings. Links to those have already been provided.

Perhaps in your world.....and I agree that proof is completely foriegn to climate science. There isn't even an accumulation of compelling evidence of AGW. No one is arguing that the climate changes...it does it constantly....the argument is whether man is responsible. To date, neither you, nor any other warmer can point to a single thing going on in the climate today that is either unprecedented, or even closely approaching the limits of natural variability.

If you are going to claim that man is causing the climate to change, and want billions if not trillions of dollars to do something about it, you have a responsiblilty to at least be able to point to a definitive human fingerprint on the changing climate. That means something that hasn't happened over and over in the past. A fingerprint of man would have to be something outside of the realm of natural variabilty otherwise the claim that man is causing it is just so much showmanship.

 

[Trakar]

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Oh, who to believe, an internet poster, or the people in the world's biggest organization of Physicists?

Where is the hard evidence upon which that largest organization of physisists bases their claim? If they all believe it, as opposed to just the political head as I believe, surely there is hard evidence somewhere that proves that an increase of CO2 in the atmosphere results in an increase of temperature. Where is it? Show me.

Once again, which part of the information in that link, or any of the links it contains provides proof of the claim that additional CO2 causes increased temperatures. I have read all of it and there is nothing there insofar as proof or even measured observation. There are plenty of claims, and assumptions, and mights and maybes, but nothing that could be construed as rising to the level of proof.

If it's there, tell me where it is.

Compelling support for the scientific understanding has been amply provided. Perhaps you should take a few higher education courses in the topic, as there seem to be numerous gaping holes in both your general science education and understandings that are making it seemingly impossible for you to grasp even relatively simple science concepts. This is compounding your confusions when it comes to more involved understandings in areas such as climate science.

 

[Trakar]

There is no compelling evidence that CO2 causes warming. The temperature record itself is compelling evidence....no...proof that there has been a "pause" in the warming. Only the truely crazed continue to believe that the warming didn't stop nearly 2 decades ago. The only things still claiming warming are crazies and computer models.

So you say. Yet the American Institute of Physics, the largest scientific society in the world, says just the opposite.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Oh, who to believe, an internet poster, or the people in the world's biggest organization of Physicists?

They can say anything they want, where's the experimental evidence?

Already provided.

 

[KissMy]

Poor land management practices by government & private sector is the largest man made environmental destroyer.

Singapore shrouded in Man Made Fire, Smoke, CO2 & Smog

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[Trakar]

One has to wonder about the level of intelligence displayed here by people such as Westwall, SSDD, and others. We had a very strong El Nino in 1998. And the temperatures peaked. Since then we have had moderate El Nino's and strong La Nina's. Yet, twice, since 1998, we have matched that peak, 2005, and 2010, even though 2005 does not show on Dr. Spencer's chart.

What does show is that the running 13 month average since 1997, has been at about 0.2 on his chart, above all but the highest monthly readings prior to that time, and well above the running 13 month averages prior to 1997.

UAH Global Temperature Update for May 2013: +0.07 deg. C « Roy Spencer, PhD

Pay no attention to the data Dorothy, global warming is for real!

Ah yes, back to the unreliable and unaccountable blogosphere,...to summarize and paraphrase a common media commercial: "Bon Jour."

 

[SSDD]

Already provided.

Don't lie. Of course if you have, then it shoud be no problem for you to re post it or at least provide a link.....not that I expect you to be able to do more than claim that you have provided it....don'tcha know.

 

[Trakar]

Already provided.

Don't lie.

Your accusation is incorrect and improper.

Of course if you have, then it shoud be no problem for you to re post it or at least provide a link.....not that I expect you to be able to do more than claim that you have provided it....don'tcha know.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/295832-400ppm.html#post7419239

http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~ed/home/hawkins_jones_2013_Callendar.pdf

Or if you prefer additional provisions from other threads that you participate on:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/295829-tyndall-lecture-2.html#post7420265

http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/295829-tyndall-lecture-2.html#post7419208

more available upon request.

 

[Dot Com]

the deniers seem to think that you can just flip a switch when we get to the tipping-point & everything will be OK

 

[SSDD]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/295832-400ppm.html#post7419239

http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~ed/home/hawkins_jones_2013_Callendar.pdf

Or if you prefer additional provisions from other threads that you participate on:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/295829-tyndall-lecture-2.html#post7420265

http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/295829-tyndall-lecture-2.html#post7419208

more available upon request.

So you did lie. There is nothing there...in any of those links that approaches the level of proof that man is responsible for the changing global climate.

Don't worry, I really didn't expect any when I asked. It does never fail to suprise me, however, what passes for proof among warmists.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

CO2 does both, it is a feedback mechanism in most cases, because it generally only acts upon CO2 sources that are temporarily stored in the active carbon cycle of the Earth's environment.

Prove it.

"Proofs" are for syllogisms, they have nothing to do with the real world. Science relies upon the accumulation of supportive evidences and consistency within the body of relevant understandings. Links to those have already been provided.

Really? So we have Global Warming during the 1930's and supposedly today, so we can say that Progressive Democrat Administrations cause Global Warming

Can I get an Amen? (Peer review)