3rd & 4th bathrooms plumbed, rocked and mudded.

[toobfreak]

I've had copper pipes freeze and burst 5 times over the years.

Well, you're not supposed to let pipes freeze! Is every pipe in your house on an outside wall? Frozen water expands and will hydraulically break anything. These plastic pipes are no better except that the plastic has a little "give" to it but in giving, that also could leave the tube wall weakened. That and the PVC has lower thermal conductivity so it may slightly delay the onset of freezing.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Well, you're not supposed to let pipes freeze! Is every pipe in your house on an outside wall? Frozen water expands and will hydraulically break anything. These plastic pipes are no better except that the plastic has a little "give" to it but in giving, that also could leave the tube wall weakened. That and the PVC has lower thermal conductivity so it may slightly delay the onset of freezing.

It's not like you have a choice.
When it gets cold as **** your copper pipes are going to burst.

 

[toobfreak]

It's not like you have a choice.
When it gets cold as **** your copper pipes are going to burst.

Why? I've never had anything but copper and I've never had one bust, and I've had weather down to -20°F many times. My ex-wife had a couple break on her but the idiot who built the house put pipes on an unheated outside wall near a place where outside air could get in and she left the house unheated and never put thermal tape on any of the pipes.

If a pipe really hard freezes, it is going to break no matter if even it is made out of titanium.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Well, you're not supposed to let pipes freeze! Is every pipe in your house on an outside wall? Frozen water expands and will hydraulically break anything. These plastic pipes are no better except that the plastic has a little "give" to it but in giving, that also could leave the tube wall weakened. That and the PVC has lower thermal conductivity so it may slightly delay the onset of freezing.

Ya gotta remember I live in Texas so the building codes are far different than up north.
All of the pipes are in the attic and they run down the walls where needed. All of the ones that burst were in the attic.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why? I've never had anything but copper and I've never had one bust, and I've had weather down to -20°F many times. My ex-wife had a couple break on her but the idiot who built the house put pipes on an unheated outside wall near a place where outside air could get in and she left the house unheated and never put thermal tape on any of the pipes.

If a pipe really hard freezes, it is going to break no matter if even it is made out of titanium.

You must live up north.

 

[toobfreak]

Ya gotta remember I live in Texas so the building codes are far different than up north.
All of the pipes are in the attic and they run down the walls where needed. All of the ones that burst were in the attic.

Wow. What a crazy deal. You could never get away with that here. No wonder they broke. Maybe they shouldn't be doing it down there either.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Wow. What a crazy deal. You could never get away with that here. No wonder they broke. Maybe they shouldn't be doing it down there either.

It rarely happens since the average winter temps in Houston dont get below the mid forties.

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