260,000 Veterans Have Lost Their Gun Rights Since December

[ogibillm]

kind of bringing things back to the op - this isn't a new thing. the mental incompetence rule has been in place since 1968. the va is recognized, legally, as being able to make that determination.

why would anyone want the mentally incompetent to have greater access to guns?

Well except for the LEGAL requirement that before one LOSE a protected right ONE MUST BE so adjudged by competent authority which MEANS a JUDGE not a bureaucracy.

And the fight's coming...
VA and FBI Blocking Veterans From Owning Guns

The Obama administration

which is what this 'controversy' is really about - attacking obama.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

It's happening now while it didn't before under this administration. How does obama get a pass? And you pretty much ignored the whole conversation to cling to your idol.

It's a 1968 law. you really think it didn't happen in the past?

 

[jon_berzerk]

And the fight's coming...
VA and FBI Blocking Veterans From Owning Guns

The Obama administration

which is what this 'controversy' is really about - attacking obama.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

due process part of the constitution the prezbo likes to overlook the constitution

again, this has fuckall to do with the president.

they have due process. if they want to challenge the va's finding they can.

the **** it dont asshole

the prezbo is responsible for the success or failure of the va

plus the prezbo pledges over a bible

that he will uphold the Constitution

removing ones rights without due process is stunningly obvious violation of the Constitution

they have due process

liar

due process fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement.

 

[ogibillm]

which is what this 'controversy' is really about - attacking obama.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

due process part of the constitution the prezbo likes to overlook the constitution

again, this has fuckall to do with the president.

they have due process. if they want to challenge the va's finding they can.

the **** it dont asshole

the prezbo is responsible for the success or failure of the va

plus the prezbo pledges over a bible

that he will uphold the Constitution

removing ones rights without due process is stunningly obvious violation of the Constitution

they have due process

liar

due process fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement.

and they have it

 

[Iceweasel]

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

If you repeat it 50,000 more times it becomes a fact. Well, you're down to 49,900 anyway.

 

[Obiwan]

kind of bringing things back to the op - this isn't a new thing. the mental incompetence rule has been in place since 1968. the va is recognized, legally, as being able to make that determination.

why would anyone want the mentally incompetent to have greater access to guns?

Well except for the LEGAL requirement that before one LOSE a protected right ONE MUST BE so adjudged by competent authority which MEANS a JUDGE not a bureaucracy.

And the fight's coming...
VA and FBI Blocking Veterans From Owning Guns

The Obama administration

which is what this is really about.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

Sorry, Jackass, but you're WAY off base. Someone with serious MENTAL HEALTH issues can be dangerous (and shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm if that can be proven), but the fact that someone has problems balancing their checkbook doesn't make them dangerous.

so change the law

So the question is, will the VA agree to go by the law

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

The VA is exceeding their authority by listing someone that merely needs help with their finances as being potentially DANGEROUS...

The VA already has a reputation for providing substandard care, but their actions in this case make me question if they are even capable of providing care to a stray cat....

 

[jon_berzerk]

due process part of the constitution the prezbo likes to overlook the constitution

again, this has fuckall to do with the president.

they have due process. if they want to challenge the va's finding they can.

the **** it dont asshole

the prezbo is responsible for the success or failure of the va

plus the prezbo pledges over a bible

that he will uphold the Constitution

removing ones rights without due process is stunningly obvious violation of the Constitution

they have due process

liar

due process fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement.

and they have it

once again you are a liar

 

[Iceweasel]

kind of bringing things back to the op - this isn't a new thing. the mental incompetence rule has been in place since 1968. the va is recognized, legally, as being able to make that determination.

why would anyone want the mentally incompetent to have greater access to guns?

Well except for the LEGAL requirement that before one LOSE a protected right ONE MUST BE so adjudged by competent authority which MEANS a JUDGE not a bureaucracy.

And the fight's coming...
VA and FBI Blocking Veterans From Owning Guns

The Obama administration

which is what this 'controversy' is really about - attacking obama.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

It's happening now while it didn't before under this administration. How does obama get a pass? And you pretty much ignored the whole conversation to cling to your idol.

It's a 1968 law. you really think it didn't happen in the past?

Which veterans lost gun rights for PTSD and financial management assistance?

 

[ogibillm]

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

If you repeat it 50,000 more times it becomes a fact. Well, you're down to 49,900 anyway.

I've quoted the law, shown the definitions.

losing your ability to make your own decisions means it's illegal to sell that person a gun or ammunition

 

[Iceweasel]

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

If you repeat it 50,000 more times it becomes a fact. Well, you're down to 49,900 anyway.

I've quoted the law, shown the definitions.

losing your ability to make your own decisions means it's illegal to sell that person a gun or ammunition

Quoting a law and misapplying doesn't make your case.

 

[ogibillm]

Well except for the LEGAL requirement that before one LOSE a protected right ONE MUST BE so adjudged by competent authority which MEANS a JUDGE not a bureaucracy.

And the fight's coming...
VA and FBI Blocking Veterans From Owning Guns

The Obama administration

which is what this is really about.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

Sorry, Jackass, but you're WAY off base. Someone with serious MENTAL HEALTH issues can be dangerous (and shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm if that can be proven), but the fact that someone has problems balancing their checkbook doesn't make them dangerous.

so change the law

So the question is, will the VA agree to go by the law

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

The VA is exceeding their authority by listing someone that merely needs help with their finances as being potentially DANGEROUS.

the va doesn't label them as potentially dangerous

 

[Obiwan]

And the fight's coming...
VA and FBI Blocking Veterans From Owning Guns

The Obama administration

which is what this 'controversy' is really about - attacking obama.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

due process part of the constitution the prezbo likes to overlook the constitution

again, this has fuckall to do with the president.

they have due process. if they want to challenge the va's finding they can.

the **** it dont asshole

the prezbo is responsible for the success or failure of the va

plus the prezbo pledges over a bible

that he will uphold the Constitution

removing ones rights without due process is stunningly obvious violation of the Constitution

they have due process

You want to claim they have "due process"???

They have to spend money they can't afford to protect their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS (which they put their LIVES on the line to defend )!!!

And you Libs cry about "voting rights" if some lazy **** won't get up off the couch to go get a FREE ID????

 

[ogibillm]

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

If you repeat it 50,000 more times it becomes a fact. Well, you're down to 49,900 anyway.

I've quoted the law, shown the definitions.

losing your ability to make your own decisions means it's illegal to sell that person a gun or ammunition

Quoting a law and misapplying doesn't make your case.

and if you think I've done that show me how I've misapplied it

 

[Obiwan]

And the fight's coming...
VA and FBI Blocking Veterans From Owning Guns

The Obama administration

which is what this is really about.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

Sorry, Jackass, but you're WAY off base. Someone with serious MENTAL HEALTH issues can be dangerous (and shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm if that can be proven), but the fact that someone has problems balancing their checkbook doesn't make them dangerous.

so change the law

So the question is, will the VA agree to go by the law

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

The VA is exceeding their authority by listing someone that merely needs help with their finances as being potentially DANGEROUS.

the va doesn't label them as potentially dangerous

Then there is no valid reason to deny them their RIGHT to own a firearm, Dumbass!!!

 

[Iceweasel]

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

If you repeat it 50,000 more times it becomes a fact. Well, you're down to 49,900 anyway.

I've quoted the law, shown the definitions.

losing your ability to make your own decisions means it's illegal to sell that person a gun or ammunition

Quoting a law and misapplying doesn't make your case.

and if you think I've done that show me how I've misapplied it

I'm not going to retype the thread for you. You can't wear people down with your stupidity.

 

[ogibillm]

which is what this is really about.
the law says the mentally incompetent cant own or be sold guns, and the law says if you can't be trusted to make your own decisions you aren't mentally competent.

this isn't new, it's been happening since 1968. you guys just want to blame obama

Sorry, Jackass, but you're WAY off base. Someone with serious MENTAL HEALTH issues can be dangerous (and shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm if that can be proven), but the fact that someone has problems balancing their checkbook doesn't make them dangerous.

so change the law

So the question is, will the VA agree to go by the law

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

The VA is exceeding their authority by listing someone that merely needs help with their finances as being potentially DANGEROUS.

the va doesn't label them as potentially dangerous

Then there is no valid reason to deny them their RIGHT to own a firearm, Dumbass!!!

except the law.

if you disagree with the law, work to change it. don't blame the va for following it

 

[ogibillm]

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

If you repeat it 50,000 more times it becomes a fact. Well, you're down to 49,900 anyway.

I've quoted the law, shown the definitions.

losing your ability to make your own decisions means it's illegal to sell that person a gun or ammunition

Quoting a law and misapplying doesn't make your case.

and if you think I've done that show me how I've misapplied it

I'm not going to retype the thread for you. You can't wear people down with your stupidity.

you cant do it.
the only person that has cited the law is me. the rest of you are operating on your feelings alone

are you going to give me some more emotionally charged rhetoric or do you have any facts to make your claim with?

 

[paulitician]

Most in the military despise Hussein. He's treated our soldiers and Vets miserably. Our Vets are dying waiting for treatment, while their 'Commander in Chief' rolls out the red carpet benefits for Illegals. So this doesn't surprise me. It's a fuckin shame.

The only thing traitor politicians fear, is the possibility of the military turning on em someday. That's why Hussein has been purging it since taking office. But it's not just him, i'm sure others will also be moving to disarm as many Vets as possible in the future. They're the only ones who could seriously mount an effective uprising. A well-armed experienced Veteran fighting force, wouldn't be so easily put down.

 

[Obiwan]

Sorry, Jackass, but you're WAY off base. Someone with serious MENTAL HEALTH issues can be dangerous (and shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm if that can be proven), but the fact that someone has problems balancing their checkbook doesn't make them dangerous.

so change the law

So the question is, will the VA agree to go by the law

the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

The VA is exceeding their authority by listing someone that merely needs help with their finances as being potentially DANGEROUS.

the va doesn't label them as potentially dangerous

Then there is no valid reason to deny them their RIGHT to own a firearm, Dumbass!!!

except the law.

if you disagree with the law, work to change it. don't blame the va for following it

You know, that just might happen when the VA's budget comes up before the Senate, and the Senate has their hearings...

Hopefully the Senate will stop the VA and the Libs from ever pulling this shit again (if the people running the VA ever want to see another paycheck)

 

[ogibillm]

so change the law
the va is going by the law. the senators are pushing for them to ignore it

The VA is exceeding their authority by listing someone that merely needs help with their finances as being potentially DANGEROUS.

the va doesn't label them as potentially dangerous

Then there is no valid reason to deny them their RIGHT to own a firearm, Dumbass!!!

except the law.

if you disagree with the law, work to change it. don't blame the va for following it

You know, that just might happen when the VA's budget comes up before the Senate, and the Senate has their hearings...

Hopefully the Senate will stop the VA and the Libs from ever pulling this shit again (if the people running the VA ever want to see another paycheck)

the senate has the power to start change on this. they could amend the law the va is following

 

[Obiwan]

The VA is exceeding their authority by listing someone that merely needs help with their finances as being potentially DANGEROUS.

the va doesn't label them as potentially dangerous

Then there is no valid reason to deny them their RIGHT to own a firearm, Dumbass!!!

except the law.

if you disagree with the law, work to change it. don't blame the va for following it

You know, that just might happen when the VA's budget comes up before the Senate, and the Senate has their hearings...

Hopefully the Senate will stop the VA and the Libs from ever pulling this shit again (if the people running the VA ever want to see another paycheck)

the senate has the power to start change on this. they could amend the law the va is following

I have a feeling they will do that, where this won't happen again...

And if your Magic Negro vetoes the bill, you can bet they will keep the Democrats' hatred of our vets in front of the public right up through the election....