25 Reason Trump won't pay a dime to E Carrol...

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Ahh, so the accuser and her two friends all say trump did it. Really?? You call that evidence?

Prove that Carroll ACTUALLY told those two witnesses when it happened? For all we know, she could have “laid out the plan” just before she decided to bring this case to trial.

Wait, so if trump could find 2 of his buddies to say that trump didn’t do it, then he’s off the hook, right?

That’s not “evidence”. Evidence is a video recording, dna tests, a police report or a hospital visit record.

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Sounds pretty accurate, all of this.

But the vapid leftist vermin have different definitions for everything, including "evidence".

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[Leo123]

Well, it's the truth. Trump lawyers made all of those accusations in court with Carroll under oath answering.... In front of the jury.

Oath means nothing to Carroll obviously.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Evidence is a video recording, dna tests, a police report or a hospital visit record.

Sorry my friend, what you believe is evidence and what actually is evidence are two different things.

WW

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Oath means nothing to Carroll obviously.

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Oh, hell no. Every word means whatever the vapid leftist vermin wants it to mean at any given moment.

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[ThisIsMe]

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Sorry my friend, what you believe is evidence and what actually is evidence are two different things.

WW

You really should read the very next sentence of you’re post..

 

[rightwinger]

Ahh, so the accuser and her two friends all say trump did it. Really?? You call that evidence?

Prove that Carroll ACTUALLY told those two witnesses when it happened? For all we know, she could have “laid out the plan” just before she decided to bring this case to trial.

Wait, so if trump could find 2 of his buddies to say that trump didn’t do it, then he’s off the hook, right?

That’s not “evidence”. Evidence is a video recording, dna tests, a police report or a hospital visit record.

The jury considered the evidence provided and the credibility of Carrol vs the credibility of Trump
Trump openly lied and was not found believable

 

[ThisIsMe]

The jury considered the evidence provided and the credibility of Carrol vs the credibility of Trump
Trump openly lied and was not found believable

What….evidence…?

The only “evidence” presented was the accuser and two of her friends saying “he did it”.

An accuser who can’t remember details of the incident…and who actually posted on her social media account “would you have sex with trump for $17,000”, some years after the alleged rape.

Look, I’m all about getting rapists punished, but, you need to have some evidence, ACTUAL evidence.

 

[Care4all]

Trump was a billionaire in the 1990s. Why didn't she bring charges then?

It wasn't for the money.... She's donating a lot of it to a fund supporting the other woman who allegedly have been sexually assaulted by Trump, for their legal costs... and well being.

She did not go after him for the sexual assault then or now....

this suit was for relentless defamation, for what Donald was saying about her and her story, that defamed her ....which was him in a nasty way....denying he assaulted her years back. In order for the jury to determine whether he defamed her or not, the jury was required to determine if she was telling the truth about being sexually assaulted...

 

[Care4all]

Ahh, so the accuser and her two friends all say trump did it. Really?? You call that evidence?

Prove that Carroll ACTUALLY told those two witnesses when it happened? For all we know, she could have “laid out the plan” just before she decided to bring this case to trial.

Wait, so if trump could find 2 of his buddies to say that trump didn’t do it, then he’s off the hook, right?

That’s not “evidence”. Evidence is a video recording, dna tests, a police report or a hospital visit record.

This wasn't a criminal case, where all of that would be necessary before a jury could find him guilty and put him in prison.

In civil cases it doesn't work that way.

 

[rightwinger]

What….evidence…?

The only “evidence” presented was the accuser and two of her friends saying “he did it”.

An accuser who can’t remember details of the incident…and who actually posted on her social media account “would you have sex with trump for $17,000”, some years after the alleged rape.

Look, I’m all about getting rapists punished, but, you need to have some evidence, ACTUAL evidence.

The jury considered the credibility of Trump vs Carrol and Trump lost Bigly

 

[Leo123]

This wasn't a criminal case, where all of that would be necessary before a jury could find him guilty and put him in prison.

In civil cases it doesn't work that way.

Carroll had no evidence either. Both her and Trump were under oath. Why do you believe her? Especially when she waited so long.....AND.......Of course, NY changing it's statute of limitations laws and expanding the time frame so this ***** could bring a lawsuit. This is NY State going after an innocent citizen, Trump with Soros funded DAs, etc. The judge in the case Kaplan, was a Clinton apointee. But you go ahead and believe your little fantasy story of 'ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!!!'

 

[rightwinger]

Carroll had no evidence either. Both her and Trump were under oath. Why do you believe her? Especially when she waited so long.....AND.......Of course, NY changing it's statute of limitations laws and expanding the time frame so this ***** could bring a lawsuit. This is NY State going after an innocent citizen, Trump with Soros funded DAs, etc. The judge in the case Kaplan, was a Clinton apointee. But you go ahead and believe your little fantasy story of 'ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!!!'

She had overwhelming evidence

The case was about defamation and Stupid Donnie couldn’t keep his mouth shut

 

[Chillicothe]

The jury considered the credibility of Trump vs Carrol

Considered......twice.
18 'peers' of Don Trump, if I recall.
9 on each jury.
Unanimous.
Months apart.
So, whatever evidence was produced to buttress her credibility....well, it was enough.
18 times enough.
So as poster 'rightwinger' perceptively observed the 'evidence' issue likely boiled down to 'credibility'......Donny's vs hers.
And Donny's "credibility" is......well, we all know. Trumpers know. NeverTrumpers know. Donny's got a problem there. In the courtroom. On the podium. On the job. As a boss. As a leader.
You know that. We all know that.

But you go ahead and believe your little fantasy story of 'ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!!!'

Ah, Leo, We don't need to believe her.
Neither do you.
Neither does Don T.
The two juries did that for all of us.

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The case was about defamation and Stupid Donnie couldn’t keep his mouth shut

You are hitting solids tonight, RW.
Donny's mouth is Donny's problem.
Everybody who can fog a mirror has long recognized that.
Even Trumpers, even MAGA's, even Republicans.....know that.
True that.

 

[Rigby5]

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Sorry my friend, what you believe is evidence and what actually is evidence are two different things.

WW

She said he said, is not evidence.
Testimony can be evidence, but only when it demonstrates that one was actually there, saw something, or has their statement corroborated in some way.
None of that was true with anything Jean Carroll said.
Nothing she said was "evidence".
Evidence is what reinforces claims as being factual.
Nothing she said has any means of being verified in any way, so is not evidence.

 

[Rigby5]

She had overwhelming evidence

The case was about defamation and Stupid Donnie couldn’t keep his mouth shut

Wrong.
She publicly claimed he raped her, which is the only actually defamation.
So then he has every right on the world to contradict her unsubstantiated claim.
The reality is she admits she agreed to model lingerie, and there is no way to do that without getting naked in the dressing room.

 

[Leo123]

She had overwhelming evidence

The case was about defamation and Stupid Donnie couldn’t keep his mouth shut

Bullshit, all she had was Leeds (a woman) saying that Trump who was seated next to her on a flight started grabbing her and trying to kiss her. Then there is
Stoynoff who allegedly was cornered by Trump at Mar-A-Logo she says she was saved by the butler. I mean, these stories are nothing but fantasy yet Kaplan allowed them in his courtroom. There is 0 physical evidence against Trump yet, the judge found for Carroll. Our justice system is corrupt.

 

[Faun]

Ahh, so the accuser and her two friends all say trump did it. Really?? You call that evidence?

Prove that Carroll ACTUALLY told those two witnesses when it happened? For all we know, she could have “laid out the plan” just before she decided to bring this case to trial.

Wait, so if trump could find 2 of his buddies to say that trump didn’t do it, then he’s off the hook, right?

That’s not “evidence”. Evidence is a video recording, dna tests, a police report or a hospital visit record.

On top of their testimony was Trump's revelation that celebrities can do to women what she claimed he did to her. And being in a civil court, she needed only to prove her claims beyond a preponderance of the evidence. She did that.

 

[Faun]

Carroll had no evidence either. Both her and Trump were under oath. Why do you believe her?

LOL

Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years

 

[Care4all]

Carroll had no evidence either. Both her and Trump were under oath. Why do you believe her?

Carroll testified under oath for hours, including cross examination from Trump's lawyers.

Trump refused to testify under oath before the jury, or subject himself to cross examination under oath in front of them.

Trump did get questioned in a deposition under oath prior to the trial which the jury got to see....and it was an absolutely disastrous deposition which showed his untruthfulness.


The jury, who had front row seats, believed Carroll and did not believe Trump.

 

[rightwinger]

Wrong.
She publicly claimed he raped her, which is the only actually defamation.
So then he has every right on the world to contradict her unsubstantiated claim.
The reality is she admits she agreed to model lingerie, and there is no way to do that without getting naked in the dressing room.

There you have it
Carrol agreed to model lingerie…..not be forcibly groped in a dressing room

Why would a jury believe her story?
Maybe because Trump bragged about how he enjoyed grabbing women by the *****