2013: The Year The Progressive Narrative Collided With Reality

[kiwiman127]

What year will the conservative narrative collide with reality?

Conservatism is rooted in reality. It collided in 1776 and created the greatest empire the world has ever seen. Sadly, the rise of liberalism/progressivism has done significant damage to that empire.

Conservatives may have been rooted in reality but that's not to say certain fringes of conservatism are in denial of reality.

 

[Dutch]

17 trillion in debt.

Two unpaid for wars costing trillions.

Huge tax cuts that redistributed the wealth of the nation to the top 1% costing trillions.

A deregulated and ruined economy costing trillions more.

Tens of thousands of young Americans maimed for life from Iraq costing trillions more into the future.

A "votes for drugs" bill costing another trillion

Rebuilding Iraq costing another trillion.

And it's all the fault of Democrats. Republicans had nothing to do with any of it.

One thing is for certain - it is all the fault of massive, unconstitutional government. And since that is what you Dumbocrats support, and us conservatives oppose, yes - it really is "all of the fault of Dumbocrats".

If the federal government adhered to their 18 enumerated powers, we wouldn't be $17 trillion in debt. Hell, we wouldn't be $17 in debt. All of the programs that are bankrupting this nation were forced through by Dumbocrats, against the warnings of Republicans:

Social Security (Dumbocrats - 1931)

Medicaid (Dumbocrats - 1967)

Medicaid (Dumbocrats - 1967)

Obamacare (Dumbocrats - 2010)

Then, by all means have your politicians run on eliminating the above programs.

 

[Nyvin]

Conservatism is rooted in reality. It collided in 1776 and created the greatest empire the world has ever seen. Sadly, the rise of liberalism/progressivism has done significant damage to that empire.

Conservatives in 1776 would have been those who wanted to stay loyal to the King.

Progressives were bravely fighting to oust the old guard and the monarchy and start a new nation. Progress.

No, those were the real liberals.

The progressives didn't come along until the end of the 19th century, seeking to progressively turn the republic, created a century prior, into a Marxist mob rule state.

Women and Black people voting is "mob rule" I take it

 

[P@triot]

"let them die" is cheaper? You sure?

Andrew Wilkow has a great question which he poses all the time: "why do Democrats frame the argument as central planning or nihilism as if there is no other option"?

You're claiming that if the federal government doesn't do it, everyone dies. That's an absurd position that even you don't believe. There are tens of thousands of charities doing amazing work every day in this country and attempting to create the false narrative of central planning or nihilism only is not only disingenuous - it's a slap in the face to the selfless actions of all of those organizations and the people who donate to them.

Why do Republicans believe the elderly eating cat food were the "good old days"?

You didn't answer the question. Pretending like people will die if the federal government doesn't do everything for them is completely disingenuous and you know it.

Furthermore, the elderly eating cat food is exponentially better than communism where the elderly are executed because they serve no purpose to society (20 million Russians executed under Joseph Stalin alone because he could figure out a way for communism to provide for everyone).

Further still, the elderly eating cat food is exponentially better than collapsing the United States. We're $17 trillion in debt. That is so far beyond unacceptable that an adjective doesn't even exist in the English language to adequately cover it.

Dumbocrats need to grow the fuck up. Life is hard. Get over it. Your utopia is not coming. And history has proven that communism doesn't create a utopia, it creates misery, poverty, and mass murder. There is a reality Dumbocrats need to realize...

"Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality, the costs become prohibitive" - William F. Buckley Jr.

 

[P@triot]

Conservatives in 1776 would have been those who wanted to stay loyal to the King.

Progressives were bravely fighting to oust the old guard and the monarchy and start a new nation. Progress.

No, those were the real liberals.

The progressives didn't come along until the end of the 19th century, seeking to progressively turn the republic, created a century prior, into a Marxist mob rule state.

Women and Black people voting is "mob rule" I take it

 

[healthmyths]

17 trillion in debt.

Two unpaid for wars costing trillions.

Huge tax cuts that redistributed the wealth of the nation to the top 1% costing trillions.

A deregulated and ruined economy costing trillions more.

Tens of thousands of young Americans maimed for life from Iraq costing trillions more into the future.

A "votes for drugs" bill costing another trillion

Rebuilding Iraq costing another trillion.

And it's all the fault of Democrats. Republicans had nothing to do with any of it.

28 million Iraqis are free from a drill/plier wielding dictator
2.7 million children have not starved as they would have if the dictator continued building palaces with food for oil program!
5 million more Americans working at the end of 2008 then beginning 2001!
4 major cataclysmic events occurred that have never occurred in any other president's terms.

The "votes for Drugs" bill also saved trillions in Medicare operating costs one fact that idiots don't seem to realize regarding the
Medicare Modernization Act of 2003... 300 plus contractors now down to less then 30 saving Medicare trillions!


And remember these Democrats called for the "1991 Cease Fire" agreement to be upheld and encouraged the liberation of Iraq!

So after these 32 democrat comments ENCOURAGING Bush to take action...

"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.


Come on... tell me these democrats weren't in favor of freeing 28 million and saving 2.7 million children from starving as obviously you don't give a rat's ass about these people!

 

[The Rabbi]

Progressives have been wrong on every issue for the last, oh, 100 years. They have never taken responsibility for their failures, only blamed them on others.

This year will be no different. Failures of Obamacare are already being blamed on Republicans, hillariously. We've seen posts like that here. The mantra is "The Democrats had to pass Obamacare because the GOP wouldn.t" Yeah, seriously people think that. Even Siberlius blames the GOP in Congress, saying "we're not getting a lot of support on the other side of the aisle." WTF? You control the white house and the senate. You have a virtual unlimited checking account to do this and you've had 3 years plus as many presidential get out of Obamacare free cards as you need. And you still can't make this turd fly?

Iran is a mess, that will get worse. This will be blamed on Bush. Like everything else. Obama is like a stranger to his own administration.

 

[Whig_Out]

No, those were the real liberals.

The progressives didn't come along until the end of the 19th century, seeking to progressively turn the republic, created a century prior, into a Marxist mob rule state.

Women and Black people voting is "mob rule" I take it

Don't mind my friend everyone. His father left him for a black woman which is why he is a racist. It's okay frand.

 

[Nyvin]

No, those were the real liberals.

The progressives didn't come along until the end of the 19th century, seeking to progressively turn the republic, created a century prior, into a Marxist mob rule state.

Women and Black people voting is "mob rule" I take it

At least read over what I said....there is nothing claiming anything is racists.