2012 NBA Playoffs

[sealybobo]

So on Friday and Sunday the Celtics are going to get away with everything while half the Miami team is in foul trouble all game, right?

Maybe its not cheating. Maybe its homecourt advantage. Sure the refs may have not called an obvious foul on Rondo and then called a phantom foul the other way, but thats only a 4 point swing. While that's not fair, its not 7. And if I'm not mistaken, the Celtics were up 7 at one point. And Battier still had to hit that 3. Did that not really happen either?

Celtic fans have to be honest with themselves. A great team would have put Lebron, Wade, the Refs and Sterns mouths on the sidewalk and stomped. If the league favors Lebron/Jordan, in order to be the man, you gotta beat "THE MAN". Don't you guys know that? Us Durant fans aren't crying that we're being cheated. We're just crying.

I'm just saying. I think the things fixed too, but not enough to convict. If the Celtics play like shit, you must acquit.

I'm just kidding!

 

[High_Gravity]

So on Friday and Sunday the Celtics are going to get away with everything while half the Miami team is in foul trouble all game, right?

Maybe its not cheating. Maybe its homecourt advantage. Sure the refs may have not called an obvious foul on Rondo and then called a phantom foul the other way, but thats only a 4 point swing. While that's not fair, its not 7. And if I'm not mistaken, the Celtics were up 7 at one point. And Battier still had to hit that 3. Did that not really happen either?

Celtic fans have to be honest with themselves. A great team would have put Lebron, Wade, the Refs and Sterns mouths on the sidewalk and stomped. If the league favors Lebron/Jordan, in order to be the man, you gotta beat "THE MAN". Don't you guys know that? Us Durant fans aren't crying that we're being cheated. We're just crying.

I'm just saying. I think the things fixed too, but not enough to convict. If the Celtics play like shit, you must acquit.

I'm just kidding!

It is what it is, Miami has the refs on their side and this won't change in Boston. I honestly just hope Miami can finish this in 4 so we can move on, all this waiting around is torture.

 

[sealybobo]

The series is over bro, the Celtics need to get their summer vacation plans in order.

I agree. The Celtics were behind the eight ball enough as is but since they can't sneeze anywhere near a Heat player without getting a call going against them they have no chance to pulling off the miracle.

Yeah with all the injuries they have its too much to ask to beat Miami with the refs on their side, Stern isn't taking any chances this year.

I disagree. Last night they were up or tied with only minutes left. Had Pierce or Ray Allen or anyone made one extra shot and if the Heat would have missed one, the Celtics would have won. Or the Heat would have at least started purposely putting them on the line. My point is they had that shit and let it slip away. They fucked up and gave the refs the opportunity to **** them. Yes I agree the refs exercised their will on the game, but only because the Celtics did not. They missed the big shots in the end. They let a big lead slip away. History is written. So now when I look back like I do any other playoff, I won't remember that the Celtics were cheated. I'll remember that the great Spurs beat the mighty Heat. NOT the mighty Celtics. Because the Celtics got knocked out in the Eastern Conference Finals. And who knows what might happen. A team can have it today and lose it tomorrow. Make the finals and anything can happen. Duncan could get hurt. Hell, we could hurt him.

A great team would go home and win 2 and then lose game 5, win game 6 and then ANYTHING can happen in game 7.

If I could tell the Celtics anything, it would be this. But they really blew it. They needed that game two. I am horrified too. I'm pulling for the Celtics. But if they lose, I'm not really a fan. Just rooting against Miami really.

 

[sealybobo]

So on Friday and Sunday the Celtics are going to get away with everything while half the Miami team is in foul trouble all game, right?

Maybe its not cheating. Maybe its homecourt advantage. Sure the refs may have not called an obvious foul on Rondo and then called a phantom foul the other way, but thats only a 4 point swing. While that's not fair, its not 7. And if I'm not mistaken, the Celtics were up 7 at one point. And Battier still had to hit that 3. Did that not really happen either?

Celtic fans have to be honest with themselves. A great team would have put Lebron, Wade, the Refs and Sterns mouths on the sidewalk and stomped. If the league favors Lebron/Jordan, in order to be the man, you gotta beat "THE MAN". Don't you guys know that? Us Durant fans aren't crying that we're being cheated. We're just crying.

I'm just saying. I think the things fixed too, but not enough to convict. If the Celtics play like shit, you must acquit.

I'm just kidding!

It is what it is, Miami has the refs on their side and this won't change in Boston. I honestly just hope Miami can finish this in 4 so we can move on, all this waiting around is torture.

Because even if Boston wins the next two, as they should, they still have to win one in Miami. That's impossible, right? *****!

I feel ya. It will be torture if it goes 7 and Miami wins. But don't you want them to have to play all those extra games? Or are you secretly a Miami fan and you want them to get their rest?

Will Bosh be back for the Finals? I hope so. I can't believe it but I want to see Miami's best go up against the Spurs best. No excuses. But I'll be praying it doesn't matter and the Spurs give the Heat a spanking.

 

[High_Gravity]

I agree. The Celtics were behind the eight ball enough as is but since they can't sneeze anywhere near a Heat player without getting a call going against them they have no chance to pulling off the miracle.

Yeah with all the injuries they have its too much to ask to beat Miami with the refs on their side, Stern isn't taking any chances this year.

I disagree. Last night they were up or tied with only minutes left. Had Pierce or Ray Allen or anyone made one extra shot and if the Heat would have missed one, the Celtics would have won. Or the Heat would have at least started purposely putting them on the line. My point is they had that shit and let it slip away. They fucked up and gave the refs the opportunity to **** them. Yes I agree the refs exercised their will on the game, but only because the Celtics did not. They missed the big shots in the end. They let a big lead slip away. History is written. So now when I look back like I do any other playoff, I won't remember that the Celtics were cheated. I'll remember that the great Spurs beat the mighty Heat. NOT the mighty Celtics. Because the Celtics got knocked out in the Eastern Conference Finals. And who knows what might happen. A team can have it today and lose it tomorrow. Make the finals and anything can happen. Duncan could get hurt. Hell, we could hurt him.

A great team would go home and win 2 and then lose game 5, win game 6 and then ANYTHING can happen in game 7.

If I could tell the Celtics anything, it would be this. But they really blew it. They needed that game two. I am horrified too. I'm pulling for the Celtics. But if they lose, I'm not really a fan. Just rooting against Miami really.

They gave it their best shot but the ref help was just too much, the game last night was absolutely pivotal we all know that and its pretty much over, Miami will sweep en route to the Finals and face the Spurs where Miami will get all kinds of crazy ref help.

 

[Article 15]

Maybe its not cheating. Maybe its homecourt advantage. Sure the refs may have not called an obvious foul on Rondo and then called a phantom foul the other way, but thats only a 4 point swing. While that's not fair, its not 7. And if I'm not mistaken, the Celtics were up 7 at one point. And Battier still had to hit that 3. Did that not really happen either?

Celtic fans have to be honest with themselves. A great team would have put Lebron, Wade, the Refs and Sterns mouths on the sidewalk and stomped. If the league favors Lebron/Jordan, in order to be the man, you gotta beat "THE MAN". Don't you guys know that? Us Durant fans aren't crying that we're being cheated. We're just crying.

I'm just saying. I think the things fixed too, but not enough to convict. If the Celtics play like shit, you must acquit.

I'm just kidding!

It is what it is, Miami has the refs on their side and this won't change in Boston. I honestly just hope Miami can finish this in 4 so we can move on, all this waiting around is torture.

Because even if Boston wins the next two, as they should, they still have to win one in Miami. That's impossible, right? *****!

I feel ya. It will be torture if it goes 7 and Miami wins. But don't you want them to have to play all those extra games? Or are you secretly a Miami fan and you want them to get their rest?

Will Bosh be back for the Finals? I hope so. I can't believe it but I want to see Miami's best go up against the Spurs best. No excuses. But I'll be praying it doesn't matter and the Spurs give the Heat a spanking.

The Celtics might take one at home and Miami wins in 5.

 

[High_Gravity]

Maybe its not cheating. Maybe its homecourt advantage. Sure the refs may have not called an obvious foul on Rondo and then called a phantom foul the other way, but thats only a 4 point swing. While that's not fair, its not 7. And if I'm not mistaken, the Celtics were up 7 at one point. And Battier still had to hit that 3. Did that not really happen either?

Celtic fans have to be honest with themselves. A great team would have put Lebron, Wade, the Refs and Sterns mouths on the sidewalk and stomped. If the league favors Lebron/Jordan, in order to be the man, you gotta beat "THE MAN". Don't you guys know that? Us Durant fans aren't crying that we're being cheated. We're just crying.

I'm just saying. I think the things fixed too, but not enough to convict. If the Celtics play like shit, you must acquit.

I'm just kidding!

It is what it is, Miami has the refs on their side and this won't change in Boston. I honestly just hope Miami can finish this in 4 so we can move on, all this waiting around is torture.

Because even if Boston wins the next two, as they should, they still have to win one in Miami. That's impossible, right? *****!

I feel ya. It will be torture if it goes 7 and Miami wins. But don't you want them to have to play all those extra games? Or are you secretly a Miami fan and you want them to get their rest?

Will Bosh be back for the Finals? I hope so. I can't believe it but I want to see Miami's best go up against the Spurs best. No excuses. But I'll be praying it doesn't matter and the Spurs give the Heat a spanking.

Bosh is irrelevant at this point, Bosh or no Bosh Stern needs his boys to start winning championships.

 

[High_Gravity]

It is what it is, Miami has the refs on their side and this won't change in Boston. I honestly just hope Miami can finish this in 4 so we can move on, all this waiting around is torture.

Because even if Boston wins the next two, as they should, they still have to win one in Miami. That's impossible, right? *****!

I feel ya. It will be torture if it goes 7 and Miami wins. But don't you want them to have to play all those extra games? Or are you secretly a Miami fan and you want them to get their rest?

Will Bosh be back for the Finals? I hope so. I can't believe it but I want to see Miami's best go up against the Spurs best. No excuses. But I'll be praying it doesn't matter and the Spurs give the Heat a spanking.

The Celtics might take one at home and Miami wins in 5.

If they win one its just torture, might as well get the sweep.

 

[High_Gravity]

I ain't no ******* Miami fan either, **** them.

 

[sealybobo]

By the NBA's own rules, the Wade take-down on Rondo should have been a flagrant 2 with him being kicked out of the game and automatically missing the next game; and even if the refs missed it at the time (so to speak) then it still should have been granted by the league office. It's a total double standard.

And look at this year. Game 5 Heat vs. Indy. Haslem basically punched Hansbrough in the face and he got a one game suspension. The no-name garbage time Pitman pushed Stephenson to the floor and he got a three game suspension. The league got to pretend they're hard asses against the Heat by suspending some no name ass clown for three games for the lesser foul.

OMG they just fouled Rondo and they refs didn't call it and instead Haslem scores on a fast break. 4 point swing. This is fixed.

Yup, told you.

Even if it is fixed, I still love the product. Sort of like a Big Time Wrestling fan. I don't bet on games or have any investment in the outcomes, so even if it were proven, I would still watch. And I would really come to respect the teams that win despite Stern. The Spurs come to mind. The Detroit Pistons in 2004. No way they were supposed to beat LA. Or the Bird Celtics beating Showtime.

So basically all those teams that went against Magic, Kobe or MJ or now Lebron were actually better teams if not for the refs? I'll have to go back and analyze this.

Indiana with Reggie Miller, Alan Iverson 76ers, Ewings Knicks, Utah's Stockton/Malone were they all victims too?

I don't blame the 2005 Spurs/Pistons loss on the refs. Chauncey threw those games. Maybe he figured **** it. If the refs were going to do it anyways, may as well bet the farm on a loss and go with the flow.

 

[High_Gravity]

OMG they just fouled Rondo and they refs didn't call it and instead Haslem scores on a fast break. 4 point swing. This is fixed.

Yup, told you.

Even if it is fixed, I still love the product. Sort of like a Big Time Wrestling fan. I don't bet on games or have any investment in the outcomes, so even if it were proven, I would still watch. And I would really come to respect the teams that win despite Stern. The Spurs come to mind. The Detroit Pistons in 2004. No way they were supposed to beat LA. Or the Bird Celtics beating Showtime.

So basically all those teams that went against Magic, Kobe or MJ or now Lebron were actually better teams if not for the refs? I'll have to go back and analyze this.

Indiana with Reggie Miller, Alan Iverson 76ers, Ewings Knicks, Utah's Stockton/Malone were they all victims too?

I don't blame the 2005 Spurs/Pistons loss on the refs. Chauncey threw those games. Maybe he figured **** it. If the refs were going to do it anyways, may as well bet the farm on a loss and go with the flow.

Well its a story line, thats exactly what Stern is looking for.

 

[sealybobo]

Yeah with all the injuries they have its too much to ask to beat Miami with the refs on their side, Stern isn't taking any chances this year.

I disagree. Last night they were up or tied with only minutes left. Had Pierce or Ray Allen or anyone made one extra shot and if the Heat would have missed one, the Celtics would have won. Or the Heat would have at least started purposely putting them on the line. My point is they had that shit and let it slip away. They fucked up and gave the refs the opportunity to **** them. Yes I agree the refs exercised their will on the game, but only because the Celtics did not. They missed the big shots in the end. They let a big lead slip away. History is written. So now when I look back like I do any other playoff, I won't remember that the Celtics were cheated. I'll remember that the great Spurs beat the mighty Heat. NOT the mighty Celtics. Because the Celtics got knocked out in the Eastern Conference Finals. And who knows what might happen. A team can have it today and lose it tomorrow. Make the finals and anything can happen. Duncan could get hurt. Hell, we could hurt him.

A great team would go home and win 2 and then lose game 5, win game 6 and then ANYTHING can happen in game 7.

If I could tell the Celtics anything, it would be this. But they really blew it. They needed that game two. I am horrified too. I'm pulling for the Celtics. But if they lose, I'm not really a fan. Just rooting against Miami really.

They gave it their best shot but the ref help was just too much, the game last night was absolutely pivotal we all know that and its pretty much over, Miami will sweep en route to the Finals and face the Spurs where Miami will get all kinds of crazy ref help.

In the basketball world, Stern is a very powerful man. Is he Jewish? Aren't their a lot of Jews in Miami?

And I think the Celtics will win both at home. All Miami did was what they were supposed to do. Win on their home court. NBA players are softer today than they were back in the day.

 

[High_Gravity]

I disagree. Last night they were up or tied with only minutes left. Had Pierce or Ray Allen or anyone made one extra shot and if the Heat would have missed one, the Celtics would have won. Or the Heat would have at least started purposely putting them on the line. My point is they had that shit and let it slip away. They fucked up and gave the refs the opportunity to **** them. Yes I agree the refs exercised their will on the game, but only because the Celtics did not. They missed the big shots in the end. They let a big lead slip away. History is written. So now when I look back like I do any other playoff, I won't remember that the Celtics were cheated. I'll remember that the great Spurs beat the mighty Heat. NOT the mighty Celtics. Because the Celtics got knocked out in the Eastern Conference Finals. And who knows what might happen. A team can have it today and lose it tomorrow. Make the finals and anything can happen. Duncan could get hurt. Hell, we could hurt him.

A great team would go home and win 2 and then lose game 5, win game 6 and then ANYTHING can happen in game 7.

If I could tell the Celtics anything, it would be this. But they really blew it. They needed that game two. I am horrified too. I'm pulling for the Celtics. But if they lose, I'm not really a fan. Just rooting against Miami really.

They gave it their best shot but the ref help was just too much, the game last night was absolutely pivotal we all know that and its pretty much over, Miami will sweep en route to the Finals and face the Spurs where Miami will get all kinds of crazy ref help.

In the basketball world, Stern is a very powerful man. Is he Jewish? Aren't their a lot of Jews in Miami?

And I think the Celtics will win both at home. All Miami did was what they were supposed to do. Win on their home court. NBA players are softer today than they were back in the day.

I don't see it, the Celtics gave it their best last night and are exhausted, they will be lucky to win one at home but theres not enough in the tank to win both.

 

[sealybobo]

They gave it their best shot but the ref help was just too much, the game last night was absolutely pivotal we all know that and its pretty much over, Miami will sweep en route to the Finals and face the Spurs where Miami will get all kinds of crazy ref help.

In the basketball world, Stern is a very powerful man. Is he Jewish? Aren't their a lot of Jews in Miami?

And I think the Celtics will win both at home. All Miami did was what they were supposed to do. Win on their home court. NBA players are softer today than they were back in the day.

I don't see it, the Celtics gave it their best last night and are exhausted, they will be lucky to win one at home but theres not enough in the tank to win both.

Probably right and if you are, may as well be done in 4. I agree. Is Bosh coming back? They will need him to beat the Spurs.

 

[High_Gravity]

In the basketball world, Stern is a very powerful man. Is he Jewish? Aren't their a lot of Jews in Miami?

And I think the Celtics will win both at home. All Miami did was what they were supposed to do. Win on their home court. NBA players are softer today than they were back in the day.

I don't see it, the Celtics gave it their best last night and are exhausted, they will be lucky to win one at home but theres not enough in the tank to win both.

Probably right and if you are, may as well be done in 4. I agree. Is Bosh coming back? They will need him to beat the Spurs.

The Heat still have a good chance without him.

 

[sealybobo]

They gave it their best shot but the ref help was just too much, the game last night was absolutely pivotal we all know that and its pretty much over, Miami will sweep en route to the Finals and face the Spurs where Miami will get all kinds of crazy ref help.

In the basketball world, Stern is a very powerful man. Is he Jewish? Aren't their a lot of Jews in Miami?

And I think the Celtics will win both at home. All Miami did was what they were supposed to do. Win on their home court. NBA players are softer today than they were back in the day.

I don't see it, the Celtics gave it their best last night and are exhausted, they will be lucky to win one at home but theres not enough in the tank to win both.

Boston; Los Angeles; 1969; NBA Finals

Los Angeles; San Francisco; 1969; Western Division Semifinals

Baltimore; New York; 1971; Eastern Conference Finals

Portland; Philadelphia; 1977; NBA Finals

Chicago; New York; 1993; Eastern Conference Finals

Houston; Phoenix; 1994; Western Conference Semifinals

Houston; Phoenix; 1995; Western Conference Semifinals

Lakers; San Antonio; 2004; Western Conference Semifinals

Dallas; Houston; 2005; Western Conference First Round

Washington; Chicago; 2005; Eastern Conference First Round

Miami; Dallas; 2006; NBA Finals

Utah; Houston; 2007; Western Conference First Round

Cleveland; Detroit; 2007; Eastern Conference Finals

San Antonio; New Orleans; 2008; Western Conference Semifinals

Read more: Down but not out: The 14 NBA teams to come back from an 0-2 series deficit | NewsOK.com

 

[High_Gravity]

In the basketball world, Stern is a very powerful man. Is he Jewish? Aren't their a lot of Jews in Miami?

And I think the Celtics will win both at home. All Miami did was what they were supposed to do. Win on their home court. NBA players are softer today than they were back in the day.

I don't see it, the Celtics gave it their best last night and are exhausted, they will be lucky to win one at home but theres not enough in the tank to win both.

Boston; Los Angeles; 1969; NBA Finals

Los Angeles; San Francisco; 1969; Western Division Semifinals

Baltimore; New York; 1971; Eastern Conference Finals

Portland; Philadelphia; 1977; NBA Finals

Chicago; New York; 1993; Eastern Conference Finals

Houston; Phoenix; 1994; Western Conference Semifinals

Houston; Phoenix; 1995; Western Conference Semifinals

Lakers; San Antonio; 2004; Western Conference Semifinals

Dallas; Houston; 2005; Western Conference First Round

Washington; Chicago; 2005; Eastern Conference First Round

Miami; Dallas; 2006; NBA Finals

Utah; Houston; 2007; Western Conference First Round

Cleveland; Detroit; 2007; Eastern Conference Finals

San Antonio; New Orleans; 2008; Western Conference Semifinals

Read more: Down but not out: The 14 NBA teams to come back from an 0-2 series deficit | NewsOK.com

Theres always that possibility but I don't see it, this Celtics team is not deep or healthy enough to make a run like that.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't see it, the Celtics gave it their best last night and are exhausted, they will be lucky to win one at home but theres not enough in the tank to win both.

Boston; Los Angeles; 1969; NBA Finals

Los Angeles; San Francisco; 1969; Western Division Semifinals

Baltimore; New York; 1971; Eastern Conference Finals

Portland; Philadelphia; 1977; NBA Finals

Chicago; New York; 1993; Eastern Conference Finals

Houston; Phoenix; 1994; Western Conference Semifinals

Houston; Phoenix; 1995; Western Conference Semifinals

Lakers; San Antonio; 2004; Western Conference Semifinals

Dallas; Houston; 2005; Western Conference First Round

Washington; Chicago; 2005; Eastern Conference First Round

Miami; Dallas; 2006; NBA Finals

Utah; Houston; 2007; Western Conference First Round

Cleveland; Detroit; 2007; Eastern Conference Finals

San Antonio; New Orleans; 2008; Western Conference Semifinals

Read more: Down but not out: The 14 NBA teams to come back from an 0-2 series deficit | NewsOK.com

Theres always that possibility but I don't see it, this Celtics team is not deep or healthy enough to make a run like that.

I wonder how the Pistons did tonight on the lottery.

OKC is doing what you are supposed to do when down 2 nothing. Come on Thunder! Up 19

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Game 2 FT discrepancy: Miami 47, Boston 29.

Free throws for Lebron: 24. The corporate media is spinning it that it's because of how much he drives but that's nonsense. The C's were not having an especially hard time staying between James and the hoop. In fact it's obvious that they game planned to stop Wade and James and let the role players beat them. But that's only going to be so effective when the refs are going to cheat like that.

The worst was the loose ball that was a loose ball foul call on Rondo. Even the announcers automatically assumed that the foul was on James and then they had to correct themselves. And at the time I was watching the back angle and I was like oh well maybe they though Rondo undercut James to make him fall on him. But then they showed the front angle (the angle of the official who made the call) and it clearly showed James pushing Rondo and then falling on top of him. Freaking rigged nonsense I tell you. And none of this even touches all the overtime nonsense we already discussed.

 

[sealybobo]

Game 2 FT discrepancy: Miami 47, Boston 29.

Free throws for Lebron: 24. The corporate media is spinning it that it's because of how much he drives but that's nonsense. The C's were not having an especially hard time staying between James and the hoop. In fact it's obvious that they game planned to stop Wade and James and let the role players beat them. But that's only going to be so effective when the refs are going to cheat like that.

The worst was the loose ball that was a loose ball foul call on Rondo. Even the announcers automatically assumed that the foul was on James and then they had to correct themselves. And at the time I was watching the back angle and I was like oh well maybe they though Rondo undercut James to make him fall on him. But then they showed the front angle (the angle of the official who made the call) and it clearly showed James pushing Rondo and then falling on top of him. Freaking rigged nonsense I tell you. And none of this even touches all the overtime nonsense we already discussed.

I even caught my co-worker talking to a buddy on the phone about it. He said the only way he can protest is by not watching the Heat games. He won't give them the ratings.

Oh, and I found a Heat fan. My 92 year old Grandmother in Ft. Lauderdale. She loves Duke too. Don't ask me why. One tome MSU was playing Duke and my dad told her that her son went to MSU and the family is from Sparta and her nephew played at MSU and so she should root for us and not Duke because of those reasons and she said, "ah, what do those things matter to me?". She loves her Duke and Coach K.

P.S. She is why the Heat won. My dad told her that the Heat were down 7 with 4 minutes to go and she told him she had to let him go so she could pray and the Heat won in OT. She must have been soooo excited. LOL.