2 men attacked by a group of teens/men and stabbed in San Fran….no guns were involved...

[PaintMyHouse]

the sign is lying btw

when it says robbers usually dont hurt people

Nope. That is absolutely true. The policy is based on math, not your love of deadly toys and dreams of playing the hero.

bs they come with the threat of bodily harm

the law justifies shooting them

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over? Or, do they know what you don't, trying to fight back is quick way to get very, very, dead...

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over?

yes

they put their employees at even more risk if they claim it is a gun free zone

obviously a robber is willing to shoot a clerk if they have a firearm on them

No one can help someone as irrational as you. Luckily, for their employees, they also, unlike you, use math and logic when setting corporate policy.

 

[2aguy]

the sign is lying btw

when it says robbers usually dont hurt people

Nope. That is absolutely true. The policy is based on math, not your love of deadly toys and dreams of playing the hero.

ask the two from T-Mobile yesterday how that contract worked for them. hahahahahahahahahaa jack monkey

Ask the guy who shot his own kid yesterday (because he thought he was a burglar), or the guy who was shot after being car-jacked and then the CC asshole who shot him picked up his brass and ran away before the cops arrived. Works both ways, hero.

Yes....and in total...all accidental gun deaths in 2013 from the CDC.... 505. All of them. IN a country at the time with over 320 million guns in private hands and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for self defense.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

the sign is lying btw

when it says robbers usually dont hurt people

Nope. That is absolutely true. The policy is based on math, not your love of deadly toys and dreams of playing the hero.

bs they come with the threat of bodily harm

the law justifies shooting them

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over? Or, do they know what you don't, trying to fight back is quick way to get very, very, dead...

Most of the time that will work. Until the times that it doesn't. We had a 7-11 clerk. She was robbed at gun point, he took her in the back room and raped her......then we had the Brown's chicken massacre....they got the money, the took the entire shift into the cooler and exectuted them...

In a robbery situation you have to make that decision yourself....but if you don't have a gun, you don't have a decision to make....you can only hope...

one does not know the intent of the bad guy in a situation like that

You don't have to know the specific robber, we know the odds on robberies.

 

[Godboy]

Money is never worth killing someone over, ever.

Some things are worth it just for the amusement factor. Shooting criminals is fun.

Another Pro-Lifer.

No, I support abortion enthusiastically. I'm an atheist, remember?

 

[2aguy]

the sign is lying btw

when it says robbers usually dont hurt people

Nope. That is absolutely true. The policy is based on math, not your love of deadly toys and dreams of playing the hero.

bs they come with the threat of bodily harm

the law justifies shooting them

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over? Or, do they know what you don't, trying to fight back is quick way to get very, very, dead...

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over?

yes

they put their employees at even more risk if they claim it is a gun free zone

obviously a robber is willing to shoot a clerk if they have a firearm on them

No one can help someone as irrational as you. Luckily, for their employees, they also, unlike you, use math and logic when setting corporate policy.

Except the criminals might not follow your math or your logic and use street logic....no witnesses, no witnesses testifying.......

 

[PaintMyHouse]

the sign is lying btw

when it says robbers usually dont hurt people

Nope. That is absolutely true. The policy is based on math, not your love of deadly toys and dreams of playing the hero.

ask the two from T-Mobile yesterday how that contract worked for them. hahahahahahahahahaa jack monkey

Ask the guy who shot his own kid yesterday (because he thought he was a burglar), or the guy who was shot after being car-jacked and then the CC asshole who shot him picked up his brass and ran away before the cops arrived. Works both ways, hero.

Yes....and in total...all accidental gun deaths in 2013 from the CDC.... 505. All of them. IN a country at the time with over 320 million guns in private hands and over 11.1 million people carrying guns for self defense.

505 too many.

 

[MikeK]

Yes….the immediate solution to a violent attack by a criminal is a gun……and in general as more people carry guns…the crime rate goes down.

Quite right.

One very prominent reason for that is the relatively unknown factor of predator instinct, which functions in all animal predators -- including the human animal. Predators of all species are acutely capable of sensing either fear or self-confidence.

Before I retired, and while living in New York, I had a CCW permit and I often carried either a .38 Colt Cobra or a .22 magnum derringer. There were a number of occasions when I was being eyeballed by individuals whom I had no doubt were predatory. But rather than fear, I was concentrating on the report I would need to write about why I had to use my gun.

I am certain each of these individuals sensed the absence of fear and my self-confidence, which caused them to keep moving. And I have no doubt the same type of situations take place many times, day after day, with armed citizens, plainclothes and off-duty cops, etc.

 

[jon_berzerk]

the sign is lying btw

when it says robbers usually dont hurt people

Nope. That is absolutely true. The policy is based on math, not your love of deadly toys and dreams of playing the hero.

bs they come with the threat of bodily harm

the law justifies shooting them

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over? Or, do they know what you don't, trying to fight back is quick way to get very, very, dead...

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over?

yes

they put their employees at even more risk if they claim it is a gun free zone

obviously a robber is willing to shoot a clerk if they have a firearm on them

No one can help someone as irrational as you. Luckily, for their employees, they also, unlike you, use math and logic when setting corporate policy.

coming from a certified kook as yourself --LOL

it is you that has the flawed logic

 

[2aguy]

Wrong…if you studied actual self defense with guns you would know you are wrong. Guns give the weak an equal chance at causing harm to the strong….the attacker then has to make the decision on wether to press the attack and risk death or injury or go and find another, unarmed democrat to rob.

Guns give you a decent chance kill those without guns, nothing more. If everyone in the fight has a gun, the odds are no longer in your favor.

If given the chance to be stabbed versus shot, go with the knife. You are much more likely to live.

And here, just today you are proven wrong…


T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

"I think concealed carry is a great opportunity for managers, workers, employees to protect themselves in these cases. And our employee did a great job to protect themselves and the other employee," said Neil Tadros, store manager.

He says two men entered the store and acted like they were shopping for phones for a few minutes, then pulled out guns.

One employee ran to the back to call for help while the other pulled out his own gun and fired at the two suspects. He hit one of them in the groin and the arm, and the other in the abdomen and the arm.

The men ran from the store with the employee chasing them, on the phone giving a description to police.

The suspects then drove to a nearby hospital where police took them into custody.

Neighbors say the cell phone store has been robbed several times in the last month. Ed Brown was working in the salon next door.

Money is never worth killing someone over, ever.

I could not agree with you more...sadly, when two thugs put a gun in your face you do not know if they share the same sentiment as you do...do you?

Nope, but like 7-11 and the banks, I know the odds. Hand it over and most likely, nearly without exception, you live.

Except...for the exceptions........when they rape or murder the clerks........

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Nope. That is absolutely true. The policy is based on math, not your love of deadly toys and dreams of playing the hero.

bs they come with the threat of bodily harm

the law justifies shooting them

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over? Or, do they know what you don't, trying to fight back is quick way to get very, very, dead...

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over?

yes

they put their employees at even more risk if they claim it is a gun free zone

obviously a robber is willing to shoot a clerk if they have a firearm on them

No one can help someone as irrational as you. Luckily, for their employees, they also, unlike you, use math and logic when setting corporate policy.

coming from a certified kook as yourself --LOL

it is you that has the flawed logic

If my logic is flawed then so is the logic of all banks and national chains. Do tell...

 

[jon_berzerk]

Guns give you a decent chance kill those without guns, nothing more. If everyone in the fight has a gun, the odds are no longer in your favor.

If given the chance to be stabbed versus shot, go with the knife. You are much more likely to live.

And here, just today you are proven wrong…


T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

"I think concealed carry is a great opportunity for managers, workers, employees to protect themselves in these cases. And our employee did a great job to protect themselves and the other employee," said Neil Tadros, store manager.

He says two men entered the store and acted like they were shopping for phones for a few minutes, then pulled out guns.

One employee ran to the back to call for help while the other pulled out his own gun and fired at the two suspects. He hit one of them in the groin and the arm, and the other in the abdomen and the arm.

The men ran from the store with the employee chasing them, on the phone giving a description to police.

The suspects then drove to a nearby hospital where police took them into custody.

Neighbors say the cell phone store has been robbed several times in the last month. Ed Brown was working in the salon next door.

Money is never worth killing someone over, ever.

I could not agree with you more...sadly, when two thugs put a gun in your face you do not know if they share the same sentiment as you do...do you?

Nope, but like 7-11 and the banks, I know the odds. Hand it over and most likely, nearly without exception, you live.

Except...for the exceptions........when they rape or murder the clerks........

the kook seems to under the impression that the bad guys

will do the right thing

--LOL

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Guns give you a decent chance kill those without guns, nothing more. If everyone in the fight has a gun, the odds are no longer in your favor.

If given the chance to be stabbed versus shot, go with the knife. You are much more likely to live.

And here, just today you are proven wrong…


T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

"I think concealed carry is a great opportunity for managers, workers, employees to protect themselves in these cases. And our employee did a great job to protect themselves and the other employee," said Neil Tadros, store manager.

He says two men entered the store and acted like they were shopping for phones for a few minutes, then pulled out guns.

One employee ran to the back to call for help while the other pulled out his own gun and fired at the two suspects. He hit one of them in the groin and the arm, and the other in the abdomen and the arm.

The men ran from the store with the employee chasing them, on the phone giving a description to police.

The suspects then drove to a nearby hospital where police took them into custody.

Neighbors say the cell phone store has been robbed several times in the last month. Ed Brown was working in the salon next door.

Money is never worth killing someone over, ever.

I could not agree with you more...sadly, when two thugs put a gun in your face you do not know if they share the same sentiment as you do...do you?

Nope, but like 7-11 and the banks, I know the odds. Hand it over and most likely, nearly without exception, you live.

Except...for the exceptions........when they rape or murder the clerks........

Yep, it happens, just not in the vast majority of cases.

 

[westwall]

Yes…if you made all guns disappear then the weak and the outnumbered would simply become the victims of the strong and the more numerous…….just like in gun controlled San Francisco…

Mob in S.F. stabs 2 men at Mission District bus stop

A crew of 10 young assailants viciously stabbed two men at a Mission District bus stop, sending the victims to the hospital, where one man was clinging to life Wednesday, police said.
The attack happened around 8:30 p.m. Tuesday when the attackers, described as between the ages of 18 and 20, approached two men sitting at a bus stop at 18th and Mission streets, San Francisco police officials said.
A fight soon broke out, and one of the suspects repeatedly stabbed one of the victims, a 34-year-old man, in the back. At the same time, another attacker went after the other victim, a 41-year-old man, cutting up his back, police said.

I am small and weak and vulnerable-----an assailant would have no problem grabbing
a gun from my hand

I am old, have a heart condition, and if a bad guy were to try and take my gun away from me, he would be very, very dead.

 

[jon_berzerk]

bs they come with the threat of bodily harm

the law justifies shooting them

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over? Or, do they know what you don't, trying to fight back is quick way to get very, very, dead...

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over?

yes

they put their employees at even more risk if they claim it is a gun free zone

obviously a robber is willing to shoot a clerk if they have a firearm on them

No one can help someone as irrational as you. Luckily, for their employees, they also, unlike you, use math and logic when setting corporate policy.

coming from a certified kook as yourself --LOL

it is you that has the flawed logic

If my logic is flawed then so is the logic of all banks and national chains. Do tell...

my banker is armed you idiot

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And here, just today you are proven wrong…


T-Mobile store employee shoots 2 armed robbery suspects near 95th, Jeffrey

The T-Mobile store in the 2000-block of East 95th St. was left riddled with bullet holes. If not for the employee carrying a weapon with a concealed carry license, the manager of the store says he might be telling a different story.

"I think concealed carry is a great opportunity for managers, workers, employees to protect themselves in these cases. And our employee did a great job to protect themselves and the other employee," said Neil Tadros, store manager.

He says two men entered the store and acted like they were shopping for phones for a few minutes, then pulled out guns.

One employee ran to the back to call for help while the other pulled out his own gun and fired at the two suspects. He hit one of them in the groin and the arm, and the other in the abdomen and the arm.

The men ran from the store with the employee chasing them, on the phone giving a description to police.

The suspects then drove to a nearby hospital where police took them into custody.

Neighbors say the cell phone store has been robbed several times in the last month. Ed Brown was working in the salon next door.

Money is never worth killing someone over, ever.

I could not agree with you more...sadly, when two thugs put a gun in your face you do not know if they share the same sentiment as you do...do you?

Nope, but like 7-11 and the banks, I know the odds. Hand it over and most likely, nearly without exception, you live.

Except...for the exceptions........when they rape or murder the clerks........

the kook seems to under the impression that the bad guys

will do the right thing

--LOL

As in not killing the person they are robbing? Yep, they usually do not so therefore they do do the right thing.

 

[irosie91]

Yes…if you made all guns disappear then the weak and the outnumbered would simply become the victims of the strong and the more numerous…….just like in gun controlled San Francisco…

Mob in S.F. stabs 2 men at Mission District bus stop

A crew of 10 young assailants viciously stabbed two men at a Mission District bus stop, sending the victims to the hospital, where one man was clinging to life Wednesday, police said.
The attack happened around 8:30 p.m. Tuesday when the attackers, described as between the ages of 18 and 20, approached two men sitting at a bus stop at 18th and Mission streets, San Francisco police officials said.
A fight soon broke out, and one of the suspects repeatedly stabbed one of the victims, a 34-year-old man, in the back. At the same time, another attacker went after the other victim, a 41-year-old man, cutting up his back, police said.

I am small and weak and vulnerable-----an assailant would have no problem grabbing
a gun from my hand

I am old, have a heart condition and if a bad guy were to try and take my gun away from me he would be very, very dead.

gee----thanks WALL.......not only am I very small-------I have a really tiny hand.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Money is never worth killing someone over, ever.

I could not agree with you more...sadly, when two thugs put a gun in your face you do not know if they share the same sentiment as you do...do you?

Nope, but like 7-11 and the banks, I know the odds. Hand it over and most likely, nearly without exception, you live.

Except...for the exceptions........when they rape or murder the clerks........

the kook seems to under the impression that the bad guys

will do the right thing

--LOL

As in not killing the person they are robbing? Yep, they usually do not so therefore they do do the right thing.

now you have been reduced to rambling

--LOL

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over? Or, do they know what you don't, trying to fight back is quick way to get very, very, dead...

Do you think that 7-11, banks, all major retail chains put their employees at risk by saying do as the robber says and hand it over?

yes

they put their employees at even more risk if they claim it is a gun free zone

obviously a robber is willing to shoot a clerk if they have a firearm on them

No one can help someone as irrational as you. Luckily, for their employees, they also, unlike you, use math and logic when setting corporate policy.

coming from a certified kook as yourself --LOL

it is you that has the flawed logic

If my logic is flawed then so is the logic of all banks and national chains. Do tell...

my banker is armed you idiot

Great. Tell me, what are his tellers trained to do in the case of a robbery? And, is the money in the bank worth his life?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I could not agree with you more...sadly, when two thugs put a gun in your face you do not know if they share the same sentiment as you do...do you?

Nope, but like 7-11 and the banks, I know the odds. Hand it over and most likely, nearly without exception, you live.

Except...for the exceptions........when they rape or murder the clerks........

the kook seems to under the impression that the bad guys

will do the right thing

--LOL

As in not killing the person they are robbing? Yep, they usually do not so therefore they do do the right thing.

now you have been reduced to rambling

--LOL

Nope. Since most robbers never kill anyone you haven't a leg to stand on. It's math, you won't get it.

 

[westwall]

Yes…if you made all guns disappear then the weak and the outnumbered would simply become the victims of the strong and the more numerous…….just like in gun controlled San Francisco…

Mob in S.F. stabs 2 men at Mission District bus stop

A crew of 10 young assailants viciously stabbed two men at a Mission District bus stop, sending the victims to the hospital, where one man was clinging to life Wednesday, police said.
The attack happened around 8:30 p.m. Tuesday when the attackers, described as between the ages of 18 and 20, approached two men sitting at a bus stop at 18th and Mission streets, San Francisco police officials said.
A fight soon broke out, and one of the suspects repeatedly stabbed one of the victims, a 34-year-old man, in the back. At the same time, another attacker went after the other victim, a 41-year-old man, cutting up his back, police said.

I am small and weak and vulnerable-----an assailant would have no problem grabbing
a gun from my hand

I am old, have a heart condition and if a bad guy were to try and take my gun away from me he would be very, very dead.

gee----thanks WALL.......not only am I very small-------I have a really tiny hand.

So what. They make guns for small hands. My hands are average size and due to the meds I have to take my grip is not nearly as strong as it once was. Doesn't matter. I carry a weapon that I can control, and I practice with it.