14K migrants hoping to enter US turn back, UN finds

[Frankenstein]

14K migrants hoping to enter US turn back, UN finds

A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the U.S. have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's border enforcement policies.

www.foxnews.com

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A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the United States have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's hardline border enforcement policies.

The new phenomenon, referred to as "reverse flow" migration, has mainly impacted migrants fleeing the economic and political turmoil in Venezuela and who had been moving north through Central America toward the U.S.

Since 2017, around 8 million people have fled the political crisis in Venezuela.

 

[1srelluc]

Meh, those 8-million should be there kicking Maduro's ass out.

 

[1srelluc]

I can't hardly fathom 14K people that are so fuckin' stupid that they didn't know when they left that Trump had shut the border down.

Add to that they didn't even figure it out along the way.

 

[Foxfyre]

14K migrants hoping to enter US turn back, UN finds

A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the U.S. have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's border enforcement policies.

www.foxnews.com

Winning feels good

A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the United States have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's hardline border enforcement policies.

The new phenomenon, referred to as "reverse flow" migration, has mainly impacted migrants fleeing the economic and political turmoil in Venezuela and who had been moving north through Central America toward the U.S.

Since 2017, around 8 million people have fled the political crisis in Venezuela.

What the bleeding heart left does not understand is that the USA does not have unlimited resources. If we continued taking in migrants from other countries as the Biden administration did, all of the world's poor capable of travel will be headed for the USA as well as they mercenaries and others with hidden agendas.

They will sooner, rather than later, overwhelm us with their needs and that doesn't even include the small but real criminal numbers among them. If even 1% of a million migrants allowed into the country are dangerous criminal types--and that is almost certainly a ridiculously low number--that would be 10,000 dangerous criminal types turned loose on an undeserving American people. The Biden administration brought in, encouraged, allowed, promoted 10s of millions of migrants.

But when our resources are stretched to the limit and exceeded, then we are reduced to a country as needy as the ones they come from. We are unable to take care of our own, plus the hordes of migrants that arrive here.

A strong, free, prosperous America that puts America first will do much good for all the countries of the world that become our trading partners. A weak, impoverished, needy America will help nobody.

 

[Lisa558]

I can't hardly fathom 14K people that are so fuckin' stupid that they didn't know when they left that Trump had shut the border down.

Add to that they didn't even figure it out along the way.

That shows you the intelligence level of the people who have streamed in illegally.

 

[whitehall]

Why is the U.N. involved? Don't they have more important issues to address like Ukraine and Gaza?

 

[toobfreak]

14K migrants hoping to enter US turn back​

The new phenomenon, referred to as "reverse flow" migration, has mainly impacted migrants fleeing the economic and political turmoil in Venezuela and who had been moving north through Central America toward the U.S.

I should move to the border and set up shop there offering Trump paraphernalia to the migrants as they turn around to head home after their long trip, compliments of President Trump.

 

[Independent thinker]

14K migrants hoping to enter US turn back, UN finds

A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the U.S. have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's border enforcement policies.

www.foxnews.com

Winning feels good

A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the United States have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's hardline border enforcement policies.

The new phenomenon, referred to as "reverse flow" migration, has mainly impacted migrants fleeing the economic and political turmoil in Venezuela and who had been moving north through Central America toward the U.S.

Since 2017, around 8 million people have fled the political crisis in Venezuela.

You know what? I actually feel sorry for these people who legitimately want to come to the US for a better life. But we have limits on immigration for a reason and the US is not the daddy to every human on the planet, especially when we already owe 38 trillion dollars.

And, the US shouldn't have to be paying for these people to have a better life in this country, and that includes welfare to their children. Most all of these people would actually like to have a better life right where they are, so I say let's bring the US to them, taking over these countries and taking over their resources and providing economic opportunity to them right there where they're at.

 

[Kondor3]

A drop in the bucket but at least it's 14,000 fewer useless mouths to feed and to undercut American trade jobs.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Good, the word is out. Don't do it

 

[Missouri_Mike]

14K migrants hoping to enter US turn back, UN finds

A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the U.S. have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's border enforcement policies.

www.foxnews.com

Winning feels good

A new report reveals that more than 14,000 migrants who had hoped to cross into the United States have turned back and reversed course due to the Trump administration's hardline border enforcement policies.

The new phenomenon, referred to as "reverse flow" migration, has mainly impacted migrants fleeing the economic and political turmoil in Venezuela and who had been moving north through Central America toward the U.S.

Since 2017, around 8 million people have fled the political crisis in Venezuela.

I have a few thoughts.

First is how did 14k engineers, doctors, lawyers etc not stay at home and fix their own country?

Second, did they vote for the shit that’s happening there? Why would they want to leave the socialist paradise they voted for?

Third, walking is good for you. They should be in military shape when they get back home and can fight to make their country better.

 

[The Duke]

What the bleeding heart left does not understand is that the USA does not have unlimited resources. If we continued taking in migrants from other countries as the Biden administration did, all of the world's poor capable of travel will be headed for the USA as well as they mercenaries and others with hidden agendas.

They will sooner, rather than later, overwhelm us with their needs and that doesn't even include the small but real criminal numbers among them. If even 1% of a million migrants allowed into the country are dangerous criminal types--and that is almost certainly a ridiculously low number--that would be 10,000 dangerous criminal types turned loose on an undeserving American people. The Biden administration brought in, encouraged, allowed, promoted 10s of millions of migrants.

But when our resources are stretched to the limit and exceeded, then we are reduced to a country as needy as the ones they come from. We are unable to take care of our own, plus the hordes of migrants that arrive here.

A strong, free, prosperous America that puts America first will do much good for all the countries of the world that become our trading partners. A weak, impoverished, needy America will help nobody.

It's a Cloward-Piven strategy in the 1st place. It's happening all across Europe.
Only instead of largely Western Hemisphere people, they have muslims, which is multiples worse.

 

[The Duke]

 

[Missouri_Mike]

It's a Cloward-Piven strategy in the 1st place. It's happening all across Europe.
Only instead of largely Western Hemisphere people, they have muslims, which is multiples worse.

I think that’s going to be changing soon. The people there have had enough, the question is have they allowed too many third world pigs into their country to out vote them.

 

[CowboyTed]

You know what? I actually feel sorry for these people who legitimately want to come to the US for a better life. But we have limits on immigration for a reason and the US is not the daddy to every human on the planet, especially when we already owe 38 trillion dollars.

And, the US shouldn't have to be paying for these people to have a better life in this country, and that includes welfare to their children. Most all of these people would actually like to have a better life right where they are, so I say let's bring the US to them, taking over these countries and taking over their resources and providing economic opportunity to them right there where they're at.

You know the simplest way to stop them coming:

Stop buying drugs from their criminals
Stop sending arms to their criminals

The US backed (by drug money and very lax gun laws) have destabilised their countries and made them dangerous...

If the CIA planned to destabilise societies they couldn't do it better than the US and then act surprised when people flee to the US...

Supporting a militia with money and arms : Check
Cut help to their security forces : Check
Start a trade war : Check
Threaten to invade : Check

There is more but I am afraid to give you any more ideas...

But be clear, people flee areas of danger and war... US policy south of the border just creates more refugees...

Help make those countries stable by just stop financing the worst in their society and it will do far more than any boarder walls or ICE...
I would point out if you did that, US would loose their cheap workforce who are the backbone of industries like Agriculture, Construction, Hospitality, Care workers,....

This is one of the huge drivers of the US economy... Where are US going to get 1.5 million Construction workers...
Conservatively that is 16% of the US Construction and 55% of Agriculture workers...
US has <4% unemployment....

Do the math... House prices will increase significantly and there would be food shortages... Houses will also increase because Canadian lumber tariffs as well....
This would have a impact on inflation, won't happen over night but slowly and surely...

Look at Brexit, there was not big bang but in years since the vote UK has slowly started to decline... Just goto UK towns and you can see that local councils have been gutted and the usually well maintained UK is slowly unraveling...

 

[The Duke]

You know the simplest way to stop them coming:

Stop buying drugs from their criminals
Stop sending arms to their criminals

The US backed (by drug money and very lax gun laws) have destabilised their countries and made them dangerous...

If the CIA planned to destabilise societies they couldn't do it better than the US and then act surprised when people flee to the US...

Supporting a militia with money and arms : Check
Cut help to their security forces : Check
Start a trade war : Check
Threaten to invade : Check

There is more but I am afraid to give you any more ideas...

But be clear, people flee areas of danger and war... US policy south of the border just creates more refugees...

Help make those countries stable by just stop financing the worst in their society and it will do far more than any boarder walls or ICE...
I would point out if you did that, US would loose their cheap workforce who are the backbone of industries like Agriculture, Construction, Hospitality, Care workers,....

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This is one of the huge drivers of the US economy... Where are US going to get 1.5 million Construction workers...
Conservatively that is 16% of the US Construction and 55% of Agriculture workers...
US has <4% unemployment....

Do the math... House prices will increase significantly and there would be food shortages... Houses will also increase because Canadian lumber tariffs as well....
This would have a impact on inflation, won't happen over night but slowly and surely...

Look at Brexit, there was not big bang but in years since the vote UK has slowly started to decline... Just goto UK towns and you can see that local councils have been gutted and the usually well maintained UK is slowly unraveling...

You have it all kinds of wrong, mebucko.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

You know the simplest way to stop them coming:

Stop buying drugs from their criminals
Stop sending arms to their criminals

The US backed (by drug money and very lax gun laws) have destabilised their countries and made them dangerous...

If the CIA planned to destabilise societies they couldn't do it better than the US and then act surprised when people flee to the US...

Supporting a militia with money and arms : Check
Cut help to their security forces : Check
Start a trade war : Check
Threaten to invade : Check

There is more but I am afraid to give you any more ideas...

But be clear, people flee areas of danger and war... US policy south of the border just creates more refugees...

Help make those countries stable by just stop financing the worst in their society and it will do far more than any boarder walls or ICE...
I would point out if you did that, US would loose their cheap workforce who are the backbone of industries like Agriculture, Construction, Hospitality, Care workers,....

View attachment 1157694
This is one of the huge drivers of the US economy... Where are US going to get 1.5 million Construction workers...
Conservatively that is 16% of the US Construction and 55% of Agriculture workers...
US has <4% unemployment....

Do the math... House prices will increase significantly and there would be food shortages... Houses will also increase because Canadian lumber tariffs as well....
This would have a impact on inflation, won't happen over night but slowly and surely...

Look at Brexit, there was not big bang but in years since the vote UK has slowly started to decline... Just goto UK towns and you can see that local councils have been gutted and the usually well maintained UK is slowly unraveling...

What a load of horse shit. We didn’t make these countries economies drug based, they did that for the easy money instead of making their peoples lives better.

We don’t need your laborers here sucking up welfare. **** off, the only difference is you have to pay US citizens up front and not through government welfare. The cost should be on the builder, not the general tax payer.

Brexit failed because their politicians don’t have any balls. Look at what they’re doing to their own people with immigration and arresting them for complaining. The EU is on the verge of a civil war. And the first thing each of those countries needs to do is leave the EU, deport the immigrants and become an independent country again.

 

[CowboyTed]

You have it all kinds of wrong, mebucko.

That maybe your opinion but I used evidence. You are showing us nothing, so are you using ignorance as an arguing point...

 

[Independent thinker]

You know the simplest way to stop them coming:

Stop buying drugs from their criminals
Stop sending arms to their criminals

The US backed (by drug money and very lax gun laws) have destabilised their countries and made them dangerous...

If the CIA planned to destabilise societies they couldn't do it better than the US and then act surprised when people flee to the US...

Supporting a militia with money and arms : Check
Cut help to their security forces : Check
Start a trade war : Check
Threaten to invade : Check

There is more but I am afraid to give you any more ideas...

But be clear, people flee areas of danger and war... US policy south of the border just creates more refugees...

Help make those countries stable by just stop financing the worst in their society and it will do far more than any boarder walls or ICE...
I would point out if you did that, US would loose their cheap workforce who are the backbone of industries like Agriculture, Construction, Hospitality, Care workers,....

View attachment 1157694
This is one of the huge drivers of the US economy... Where are US going to get 1.5 million Construction workers...
Conservatively that is 16% of the US Construction and 55% of Agriculture workers...
US has <4% unemployment....

Do the math... House prices will increase significantly and there would be food shortages... Houses will also increase because Canadian lumber tariffs as well....
This would have a impact on inflation, won't happen over night but slowly and surely...

Look at Brexit, there was not big bang but in years since the vote UK has slowly started to decline... Just goto UK towns and you can see that local councils have been gutted and the usually well maintained UK is slowly unraveling...

We are fine with legal immigrants.

 

[CowboyTed]

What a load of horse shit. We didn’t make these countries economies drug based, they did that for the easy money instead of making their peoples lives better.

Actually US did... Sometimes directly by propping up Dictators who were importing drugs into US...

But generally it was US failure to deal effectively with the US huge illegal drug demand... Having idiotic reactionary failed policies like putting more in prison rather than actually treating addicts... US failure hurt these countries way more than US.

US illegal money flooded these countries and was held by Criminal Militia... Colombia 's largest export to the US was Cocaine and it wasn't like they were paying tax on profits...

US is the Consumer base, it neglects their responsibility in the demand they placed on drugs globally.

We don’t need your laborers here sucking up welfare. **** off, the only difference is you have to pay US citizens up front and not through government welfare. The cost should be on the builder, not the general tax payer.

The cost would be on the consumer... Where do you get the magic tree that the builder can afford to pay and not charge one.... Same with Farmers, but in farmers case they will have let the crops rot in the ground, unable to milk cows or tend to animals...

Undocumented Workers are a net benefit to the us economy.. https://www.fwd.us/wp-content/uploa...ive-Impact-of-Immigration-2020-Fact-Sheet.pdf

Sorry but think about it... You have a workforce that can't draw from social security, have to work, have way less rights and work for less... They are workers which allow US have cheaper houses, food...
They are an economic secret of US, in the EU you can't have workers work over 48 hours a week, you have to give them rights, Zero hour contracts are banned.... That costs EU businesses money which they charge customers... EU Citizens know this and support it. US looks at a low wage worker and sees a sponger, EU looks at a low wage worker with potential and a future consumer..

Brexit failed because their politicians don’t have any balls. Look at what they’re doing to their own people with immigration and arresting them for complaining. The EU is on the verge of a civil war. And the first thing each of those countries needs to do is leave the EU, deport the immigrants and become an independent country again.

Brexit failed because it was built on lies in the first place... UK has had full access to refuse anyone and then they discovered that they had lost all there hard working Polish and Balkan workers... They quickly discovered that there Truck Drivershad gone home or to another EU country.
EU is grand, Brexit really brought us together. Even the Right wing leader of Italy supports EU much like Maggie Thatcher supported EU... Yes, they want somethings different but everyone understands it is a club and we are better together... You give and take.
Orban (Hungary) is the exception and would have got Hungary kicked out of EU with his pro corruption and pro Russian views... Hungary are one of the largest takers of EU funds, EU is paying the bill while Orban & Co are making themselves rich... But there is an election next year and hopefully Orban gets the boot. There will be an investigate and Orban will be running to hide in Russia..
You are pretty clueless how EU works and how much it has increased the quality of life in Europe... Compare that to the quality of life in US especially the south, US used to be way ahead... But GOP/MAGA policies see them slowly descend, Red States constantly taking more and more of the Fed Money while Blue states have to pay to keep the whole thing afloat...
Yes, maybe the Blue States will say that they can't stay competitive with Red states financial drain around their neck... Blue states keep paying and Red States keep using it for tax cuts and don't invest in Education, Health, Infrastructure...

Even look at the present set up...
Manufacturing jobs are not good jobs, they are low wage and uncompetitive in a Global Market... There are many countries that can manufacture goods at fractions of what US can...
That is why EU wants service jobs, that isn't being a waiter... We are talking, R&D, Marketing, Sales, IT, Maintenance, Legal..... Those are the ones that pay... The World is looking at MAGA getting pissed at the world why they can't get a job which competitively pays less than minimum wage...