0th anniversary of VJ Day: Thank the atomic bomb for saving millions of lives

[AZrailwhale]

Out in the bay? No.

Yes the overpressure and thermal flash would destroy nearby dwellings. Remember, at that time most Japanese dwellings were wood and rice paper.

 

[AZrailwhale]

"During World War II, some members of the United States military mutilated dead Japanese service personnel in the Pacific theater. The mutilation of Japanese service personnel included the taking of body parts as "war souvenirs" and "war trophies". Teeth and skulls were the most commonly taken "trophies", although other body parts were also collected.

The phenomenon of "trophy-taking" was widespread enough that discussion of it featured prominently in magazines and newspapers....The behavior was officially prohibited by the U.S. military, which issued additional guidance as early as 1942 condemning it specifically...."

Americans had zero sympathy for the Japanese after Pearl Harbor. At least the GIs only mutilated dead Japanese, the Japanese mutilated live POWs and civilians. The American chain of command turned a blind eye to the mutilation of Japanese corpses, the Japanese chain of command openly encouraged atrocities, rape and mutilation by its troops.

 

[Unkotare]

Naval blockade that starves millions of Japanese civilians and ALL the allied POWs in Japan. .....

The people who were already starving?

 

[Unkotare]

..... What little food there would be would go to the military. ....

Like it already was?

 

[Unkotare]

... Demonstration nuke strikes would still kill thousands of civilians. ....

OUT over the bay. You know, away from the shore?

 

[AZrailwhale]

OUT over the bay. You know, away from the shore?

Thermal pulse goes for miles, blast weakens over distance, but it doesn’t take much to destroy a traditional Japanese house, anyone within seeing distance would suffer either temporary or permanent blindness. All of your alternatives are worse than what we did in the real world,

 

[Unkotare]

Naval blockade that starves millions of Japanese civilians and ALL the allied POWs in Japan. What little food there would be would go to the military. Demonstration nuke strikes would still kill thousands of civilians. Not to mention causing blindness and radiological poisoning on hundreds of thousands down wind from the blast. Japan was and is a densely populated country. Those options are worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki where damage was limited by the topography.

The Atomic Bomb’s First Victims Were in New Mexico | HISTORY

The Manhattan Project’s Trinity test—the first atomic bomb detonation—led to infant deaths, cancer and decades of health problems.

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[Unkotare]

... Japan was and is a densely populated country. .....

Japanese cities are densely populated. The country itself is almost 70% forestland.

 

[Unkotare]

Americans had zero sympathy for the Japanese after Pearl Harbor. At least the GIs only mutilated dead Japanese, the Japanese mutilated live POWs and civilians. The American chain of command turned a blind eye to the mutilation of Japanese corpses, the Japanese chain of command openly encouraged atrocities, rape and mutilation by its troops.

AGAIN holding America to the lowest possible standard?

 

[Unkotare]

Thermal pulse goes for miles, blast weakens over distance,...

More or less than deliberately targeting civilian population centers?

 

[AZrailwhale]

AGAIN holding America to the lowest possible standard?

Nope, but in war reciprocity always governs actions. It may be unofficial, but it happens. The simple truth is that in The forties NO ONE cared what happened to the Japanese. They openly violated every covenant of international law. You name the war crime or prohibited action and they not only committed it, but didn’t even try to hide their actions.

 

[Unkotare]

Nope, but ...

AGAIN holding America to the lowest possible standard?

 

[AZrailwhale]

More or less than deliberately targeting civilian population centers?

Everyone was deliberately targeting civilian population centers in WWII. At least the US tried to hit industrial targets, the Germans, Japanese, Soviets and British didn’t even try. The Japanese used small mom and pop shops interspersed in residential neighborhoods rather than dedicated industrial areas. In effect they were using their own civilians as human shields unintentionally.

 

[Unkotare]

Everyone was deliberately targeting civilian population centers in WWII. ......

That's not an answer. Which I guess is a pretty obvious answer.

 

[AZrailwhale]

AGAIN holding America to the lowest possible standard?

You don’t hold America’s enemies to ANY standard. They can do anything to us and you want us to grin and bear it. I prefer the old Roman belief “let them hate, as long as they fear”, and “ if you desire peace, prepare for war”.

 

[Unkotare]

You don’t hold America’s enemies to ANY standard. They can do anything to us and you want us to grin and bear it......

Your lies only prove your failure, straw man.

 

[AZrailwhale]

That's not an answer. Which I guess is a pretty obvious answer.

It is an answer. War is horror, death and destruction. To quote the Iron Duke, “the only thing worse than a battle won is a battle lost”.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Your lies only prove your failure, straw man.

Nothing I have posted is a lie.

 

[Unkotare]

More or less than deliberately targeting civilian population centers?

Let's try this again.

 

[Unkotare]

Nothing I have posted is a lie.

Do you know what a straw man is?