Your rights have been taken away as of today

[Truthmatters]

It is in the bill.

do you deny it is?

 

[Truthmatters]

1031
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(e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

why do ONLY the words you want to talk about in the bill matter yet the ones which prove your stupid theory about the bill wrong dont matter?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

1031
3

(e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.

why do ONLY the words you want to talk about in the bill matter yet the ones which prove your stupid theory about the bill wrong dont matter?

you won it's all a lie go back to sleep, but while you sleep dream of days when you had a right to due process. Obama has already taken out one citizen no matter for what reason, he did it and gave the order. No wonder you refuse to see America for what it use to be a Constitutional Republic, nor is it a democracy

 

[Truthmatters]

The right has too many people who are incapable of admitting they are wrong when they are obviously proven wrong.

This is why your ideas all end up being historically failed ideas.


Denying cold hard facts out of personal charactor flaws gives you bad facts which you then build your ideas on.

The ideas can be NOTHING but failed ideas because of your charactor flaws.

 

[Truthmatters]

1031
3

(e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.




These words are in the bill and are backed by the constitution itself.

to pretend that this line and the constitution woud be overridden by the other vauge ideas you say the bill contains about stripping citizenss rights is completely insane.

Pretend on Im sure your ideas will continue to be just as failed

 

[bigrebnc1775]

1031
3

(e) Authorities- Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities, relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.




These words are in the bill and are backed by the constitution itself.

to pretend that this line and the constitution woud be overridden by the other vauge ideas you say the bill contains about stripping citizenss rights is completely insane.

Pretend on Im sure your ideas will continue to be just as failed

I have nothing else better to do then come here and start a lie. so many more people have pointed out that you are wrong, but as I said go back to sleep you have busted yet another lie in your mind.

 

[The T]

Let's hope this gets vetoed. Both parties have gotten completely power-hungry...this vote just highlights that.

DC is in dire need of an enema.

 

[Truthmatters]

your more people are wrong in the face of that line out of the bill itself.

That one line is as much a part of the bill as the parts you claim would override the very constitution.

Now every person who knows anything about this country knows the constitution is paramount when it come to any laws written.

This bill restates that.

That means this bill does NOT say what you claim it says.

Now go get all those people who say Im wrong and I will point that out to them also.

Have you noticed your the only one left claiming this crap since I posted the words right out of the bill?

 

[Truthmatters]

Let's hope this gets vetoed. Both parties have gotten completely power-hungry...this vote just highlights that.

DC is in dire need of an enema.

The OP lied about what was in the bill

 

[Truthmatters]

You were wrong and how do you react?

by insulting the person who gave you the real facts.

This is why your party is dying

(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined--

(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and

(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.

(3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR- For purposes of this subsection, the disposition of a person under the law of war has the meaning given in section 1031(c), except that no transfer otherwise described in paragraph (4) of that section shall be made unless consistent with the requirements of section 1033.

TM forget about who was right or wrong and just listen to what people are telling you and read what they are showing you. The language in the law is not specific enough to protect citizens even with the part that you made huge....since the other parts will override that such as what bigreb is showing you.

Everything isn't about politics, this is about EVERYONE'S liberty.

How in the fuck can this bill over ride the consstitution when the bill states its self that it can not be construted to override the constitution?

BTW no bill can override the constitution anyway.

The day the scotus allows a bill to override the constitution is when you will have to worry about this shit.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

(2) COVERED PERSONS- The requirement in paragraph (1) shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under section 1031 who is determined--

(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and

(B) to have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.

(3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR- For purposes of this subsection, the disposition of a person under the law of war has the meaning given in section 1031(c), except that no transfer otherwise described in paragraph (4) of that section shall be made unless consistent with the requirements of section 1033.

TM forget about who was right or wrong and just listen to what people are telling you and read what they are showing you. The language in the law is not specific enough to protect citizens even with the part that you made huge....since the other parts will override that such as what bigreb is showing you.

Everything isn't about politics, this is about EVERYONE'S liberty.

How in the fuck can this bill over ride the consstitution when the bill states its self that it can not be construted to override the constitution?

BTW no bill can override the constitution anyway.

The day the scotus allows a bill to override the constitution is when you will have to worry about this shit.

How in the fuck do you know what is in the Constitution when you can't even spell it? How in the fuck can you understand what is in the bill when you do not understand that America was until this bill was passed a Constitutional republic. How can you truth matter understand what is in this bill when Dianne Feinstein tried to have this provision exempt U.S. Citizens. Why is it obama said he would veto this bill truth does not matter? go back to sleep.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The right has too many people who are incapable of admitting they are wrong when they are obviously proven wrong.

This is why your ideas all end up being historically failed ideas.


Denying cold hard facts out of personal charactor flaws gives you bad facts which you then build your ideas on.

The ideas can be NOTHING but failed ideas because of your charactor flaws.

It's been pointed out to you what the facts are and not just by me.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Let's hope this gets vetoed. Both parties have gotten completely power-hungry...this vote just highlights that.

DC is in dire need of an enema.

The OP lied about what was in the bill

pity truth matters busted yet another lie in her mind.

 

[Truthmatters]

what law written by congress EVER overrode the constitution?

Prove that it has EVER happened

 

[bigrebnc1775]

what law written by congress EVER overrode the constitution?

Prove that it has EVER happened

the patriot act and this one

 

[Truthmatters]

You see jsut lying about it and heaving personal insults at me proves nothing.

The law its self states that the constitution is paramount.

Our constitution states it is paramount.

How in your mind can this law override the constitution?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You see jsut lying about it and heaving personal insults at me proves nothing.

The law its self states that the constitution is paramount.

Our constitution states it is paramount.

How in your mind can this law override the constitution?

I can't help you because you don't want to be helped, so I insult you.

How in your mind can this law override the constitution

Read the bill because it does exactly that.

 

[imbalance]

How did the constitution hold up for US citizen Anwar Al Awlaki who was executed without arrest, charge or trial? Now don't get me wrong, I feel no sympathy for Al Awlaki who was fighting US forces OVERSEAS, but the whole purpose of this bill is to bring the battlefield to the homeland and it does apply to US citizens who are deemed by the federal government -- with ZERO judicial oversight or standard of proof -- to be enemy combatants. The summary execution of US citizen Al Awlaki set a precedent that this bill exacerbates; we are far beyond the slippery slope and are avalanching towards potential military dictatorship as I type this.

Anyone on this board who is defending this bill either a) doesn't comprehend it, or b) has revealed their true totalitarian ideology.

"What luck for the rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler

"The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it." -- Josef Mengele

 

[Truthmatters]

Part of Patriot Act ruled unconstitutional - US news - Security - msnbc.com


the parts of the patriot act that were unconstitution were not allowed to stand.

Your team passed it and used and extraconstitutional law untill our courts could stop you.

It did NOT get to override the constitution now did it?

You now have to face that the law you claim that seeks to overide the constitution has a caveot in it which plainly says it can not be used to over ride the constitution.

If your teams patriot act had such a caveot then this man would not have been harmed by the unconstitutional parts of the patriot act because the bill would have prevented it huh?

 

[Truthmatters]

Your team Used an unconstitutional bill knowing it would be found unconstitutional in the courts eventually.

Be proud of your Bush team, you voted for it.