You won’t believe how little $8.25 an hour buys

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You won t believe how little 8.25 an hour buys Oxfam America First Person Blog
Disgusting that this is possible in the "richest country in the world"
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Cleaning the movie theater is part of my daughter's duties. But does her job actually pay enough to live on? Photo: Mary Babic/Oxfam America
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For my hard-working family and friends who earn just above the US minimum wage, a paycheck doesn’t go very far.

My daughter struck it lucky when she landed a job for $8.25 an hour at the local movie theater. They pay 25 cents more than the Massachusetts minimum wage (which is already 75 cents more than the federal wage); they don’t charge her for the monogrammed black polo shirt that constitutes her uniform (unlike some businesses); they let her know her hours a few days ahead; and they are, simply put, nice people: film nerds who enjoy keeping an independent theater alive, who don’t mind if she reads a book while sitting in the box office and waiting for the next rush.

Still, it’s a business. Her hours each week never mount up to the point where they’d be responsible for her healthcare (30 hours a week or more); her schedule varies widely; when it’s slow, they let her go (and it’s been a slow year for movies). And, to reiterate: they pay $8.25 an hour.

You can’t blame them; they’re generous at paying more than the legally required wage. But it is, even for my daughter, a measly wage. She lives at home, but she’s scraping together savings for college, living very simply, contributing to the household.

So what her earnings really translate to? I wondered, after seeing this helpful and harrowing piece on What Life Really Costs at $7.25 an Hour.

First, there’s transportation. After taxes, she brings home $7.62 an hour. Last week, after working for 27 hours (and commuting for about 8 hours), she got a check for $205.71. Just to get there and back: Slice the bus fare off the top (2.10 each way; 4.20 round trip; times four): 205.71 – 16.80 = 188.91.

A sandwich = one hour’s work. Some days, when her shift stretches longer than eight hours, she gets a plain chicken sandwich at the place next door: 7.43 (with tax). So she works a full hour to buy a sandwich. Without a drink.

A book = three hours. She loves books and music, and we visit the library every week. But sometimes she likes to buy the ones she loves the very most. Her favorite graphic novelist, Emily Carroll, just published a beautiful new book, Through the Woods. On Amazon, discounted, it’s $18.10. So she worked almost three hours to buy it.

Work shoes cost a day’s pay. We do most of our shopping at Goodwill, but every once in a while, she indulges. She really needed a good pair of shoes as she stands most of the time at work. She got a cheap pair of Nikes at around $50: Basically, a day’s pay.

And what about college tuition? Again, she got lucky: Smith College offered her a whopping scholarship, covering about half the cost. Which left her with a bill of (only) $24,000 for a year, not counting books, art supplies, etc.

So if she wants to cover one year of college – at this deeply discounted price – she’s going to work 3150 hours. Or 61 hours a week for a year. If she wants to go for the full four years… it would take 12,598 hours. Of course, she couldn’t eat. Or pay rent, take the bus, buy shoes, or get her hair cut. At least she can go to the movies…

So she’s lucky in some ways. But so many workers do not enjoy her luck. In fact, the vast majority of low-wage workers do not match this “Poster Child” profile of the minimum wage worker.

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Source: the Economic Policy Institute.
Indeed, the average age of low-wage workers is 35. A third have dependent children at home. In our (extremely fortunate)Congressional district, 34,000 working families are using food stamps, and 71,000 are living below the poverty line .
 
Here's an idea: get some education and training so you're not stuck at the bottom!
Gee, that wasnt hard.
Fuck off rabbi, your posts are a crock of senseless bullshit. You do realize people need to work these jobs to afford education and a rising cost of living? You do realize poverty is hard to get out of, considering education costs keep going up while wages are stagnant, same with the cost of living, as mentioned. People have children, parents to take care of.. Then again, the right wing hates those in poverty.
 
Here's an idea: get some education and training so you're not stuck at the bottom!
Gee, that wasnt hard.
Fuck off rabbi, your posts are a crock of senseless bullshit. You do realize people need to work these jobs to afford education and a rising cost of living? You do realize poverty is hard to get out of, considering education costs keep going up while wages are stagnant, same with the cost of living, as mentioned. People have children, parents to take care of.. Then again, the right wing hates those in poverty.
I post the obvious answer and it's someone else's fault.
Wages have stagnated under Obama and the socialist regime. Workforce participation is down because its easier to get on SSI and unemployment than to find a job. This is what socialism leads to.
You want more than 8/hr? Go earn it.
 
Here's an idea: get some education and training so you're not stuck at the bottom!
Gee, that wasnt hard.
Fuck off rabbi, your posts are a crock of senseless bullshit. You do realize people need to work these jobs to afford education and a rising cost of living? You do realize poverty is hard to get out of, considering education costs keep going up while wages are stagnant, same with the cost of living, as mentioned. People have children, parents to take care of.. Then again, the right wing hates those in poverty.
I post the obvious answer and it's someone else's fault.
Wages have stagnated under Obama and the socialist regime. Workforce participation is down because its easier to get on SSI and unemployment than to find a job. This is what socialism leads to.
You want more than 8/hr? Go earn it.
Wages have been stagnant for decades, quit your idiotic bullshit and attempts to blame one man for everything. LOL. Yes, because private sector growth under Obama is a great sign of socialism. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by. Whiners?
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by. Whiners?
I had little doubt that you were in the latter group. My hat's off to the billions world-wide who worked their asses off and made a better life for themselves instead of whining about it. That would be you and that woman who wrote the article about her daughter having to work 30 hours a week.

The horror! The horror!
 
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by.

There are 330 million people in America... so your math is off by a few orders of magnitude. No, billions are not in poverty.
Wasn't just talking about America, genius. Unless only the poor in America are whiners, in which case, the usual right wing hatred of the poor.
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by. Whiners?


While a few fuckers on the board and the ceo takes most of the profit!
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by. Whiners?
I had little doubt that you were in the latter group. My hat's off to the billions who worked their asses off and made a better life for themselves instead of whining about it. That would be you and that woman who wrote the article about her daughter having to work 30 hours a week.

The horror! The horror!
How many people live on less then $10 a day? How many live in third world countries? How many people desperately want to get education but can't afford it or have access? The article talked about how hard it is to live on low wages, and shows how hard it is to move up when earning so little.
 
Unless only the poor in America are whiners, in which case, the usual right wing hatred of the poor.

I am poor. I make no money, and I am one of those hateful right wingers. Surely you aren't implying I hate myself? My brother lives just under the poverty line with his mom, surely you aren't saying I hate them too?

There's the "usual right wing hatred of the poor" and then there's your usual bullshit.
 
Unless only the poor in America are whiners, in which case, the usual right wing hatred of the poor.

I am poor. I make no money, and I am one of those hateful right wingers. Surely you aren't implying I hate myself? My brother lives just under the poverty line with his mom, surely you aren't saying I hate them too?

There's the "usual right wing hatred of the poor" and then there's your usual bullshit.
So you admit that you hate the poor? Doesn't really make any sense, but whatever man.
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by. Whiners?
I had little doubt that you were in the latter group. My hat's off to the billions who worked their asses off and made a better life for themselves instead of whining about it. That would be you and that woman who wrote the article about her daughter having to work 30 hours a week.

The horror! The horror!
How many people live on less then $10 a day? How many live in third world countries? How many people desperately want to get education but can't afford it or have access? The article talked about how hard it is to live on low wages, and shows how hard it is to move up when earning so little.
Sorry chum. Her daughter takes in about $250 a week for 30 hours of work and supports no one.

Stop whining!
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by. Whiners?
Maybe this liberal can teach you something......

Bono Capitalism takes more people out of poverty than aid The Beacon
Like I'd give a fuck what Bono says, capitalism doesn't bring people out of poverty, aid programs, technology, governments.. If you want to follow your line of thought, then Mao Zedong did an amazing job at improving people's lives.
 
There are whiners and bleeding hearts, and then there are those that work hard, learn and make a better life for themselves and their families. These groups are largely mutually exclusive.

Which needs to be supported?
Billions live in poverty, many working 60+ hours a week to barely scrape by. Whiners?
I had little doubt that you were in the latter group. My hat's off to the billions who worked their asses off and made a better life for themselves instead of whining about it. That would be you and that woman who wrote the article about her daughter having to work 30 hours a week.

The horror! The horror!
How many people live on less then $10 a day? How many live in third world countries? How many people desperately want to get education but can't afford it or have access? The article talked about how hard it is to live on low wages, and shows how hard it is to move up when earning so little.
Sorry chum. Her daughter takes in about $250 a week for 30 hours of work and supports no one.

Stop whining!
We're not talking about a specific person, but if you want to put it down to that, your essentially saying her daughter should fuck herself and get a college education with money that comes from... Oh wait, the job which barely pays enough to hold down an apartment. Flawless. Fuck off.
 
So you admit that you hate the poor?

No. I am poor, therefore I cannot hate myself.


Doesn't really make any sense, but whatever man.

Of course, logic makes no sense to people like you.
When I refer to right wing hatred of the poor, it's in the typical partisan nature of this forum which keeps growing on me, you do realize that statement refers to right wingers who believe the poor need no aid programs, lack any basic understanding of poverty.. You may be an exception, where do you stand on food stamps?
 

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