You were lied to in school

[racialreality9]

Hitler and the Nazis were the good guys, the Soviet Union was evil. The Soviet Union won, and only then did we recognize them as a threat, and we dedicated the Cold War to fighting them.

But if we supported the Nazis, they very well might have stopped the Soviet Union.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

At the time The Communist were the lesser evil. I believe Churchill wanted to attack Russia after Germany was defeated

 

[Ozone]

the most important lesson to learn from ww2, euros have delusions of building empires and ruling the world all the time, don't trust them.

 

[whitehall]

Actually we were taught that Stalin was good old "Uncle Joe" and the Nazis were the enemy after the war started. Hitler came into power in Germany about the same time that FDR was elected in the U.S. and Hitler's atrocities were ignored by the FDR administration even after the insanity of Concentration Camps were revealed. It's hard to rationalize FDR's indifference, ignorance and negligence except to conclude that he may have decided that the U.S. and Stalinist Russia would share in the post war spoils as comrades in the new socialist era.

 

[regent]

One of FDR's problems was convincing the Congress and the American people that we needed to rearm, The America-Firsters fought FDR every step of the way.

 

[Picaro]

One of FDR's problems was convincing the Congress and the American people that we needed to rearm, The America-Firsters fought FDR every step of the way.

Most of the 'America Firsters' weren't patriots, just a bunch of wealthy whiners and believed like their modern 'Libertarian' successors that the only purpose of the military is to shoot down uppity proles who express a dislike for being mercilessly exploited by sociopaths who are only concerned with amassing personal wealth and privileges and left to starve and watch their children die at any downturn in the economy, and the Depression was a truly severe one, and completely unnecessary to boot.

Mostly they scurried off and hid under their beds out in their fortress estates behind private armies while the nation disintegrated under the failure of their economic rape and looting of the country, crying for the government to protect them from their victims. A few didn't, and some of the more enlightened sociopaths saw the bigger picture and how important FDR was and supported him, if, like Joseph Kennedy, only to keep some of their wealth intact under some kind of law and order. Being psycho narcissists, they weren't in the least grateful for FDR's rescuing them from their own failures and being slaughtered under a Stalinist style dictator, which could have easily been the case.

 

[eflatminor]

The relative evil of Communists vs. Socialists vs. Fascists is such that I'm not willing to support any of them. They're all central planners that wrought disasters upon their societies with lots and lots of mandatory laws and programs...for the greater good, don't cha know!

 

[Picaro]

At the time The Communist were the lesser evil. I believe Churchill wanted to attack Russia after Germany was defeated

They are distinctions without a difference re the vast majority of people, indistinguishable in results or practices as far as they are concerned, any more than there is any real difference for a laborer's existential realities under a Maoist Chinese bureaucrat or a corporate CEO. We all 'look alike' to both categories of 'management', and will receive the same treatment.

 

[whoisit]

Hitler and the Nazis were the good guys, the Soviet Union was evil. The Soviet Union won, and only then did we recognize them as a threat, and we dedicated the Cold War to fighting them.

But if we supported the Nazis, they very well might have stopped the Soviet Union.

 

[whoisit]

Hitler and the Nazis were the good guys, the Soviet Union was evil. The Soviet Union won, and only then did we recognize them as a threat, and we dedicated the Cold War to fighting them.

But if we supported the Nazis, they very well might have stopped the Soviet Union.

You are still lied to. Hitler was not right no matter who you compare him to. Although he was not working alone ,imo. He was still evil as hell.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

In fairness, Hitler and Stalin are two of the big 3 Progressive Founding Fathers, Mao being the third

 

[whoisit]

All humans are evil if given power they are even more so. Hitler was more so along with the others you quoted.

Killing others for profit or power is pure evil. Jews stir up shit everywhere they go, they divide and rob, but they could have been deported instead of murdered. Not my opinion but a fact. Jews don't do anythign anyone else won't do given the ops. People are assholes and that goes for all of us.

 

[GLASNOST]

You are still lied to. Hitler was not right no matter who you compare him to .......

Hitler was most certainly right. He freed Germany when no one else had the balls to even try. The unfortunate part of the story is that after Germany voted him into office he did away with the multi-political system and he went on a rampage that no one was able to stop.

This is the very same dilemma we face today. The shaky cooperation that existed during the Cold War experienced a few bright spots such as Alexander Dubček, Nikita Kruschev .... and eventually Mikael Gorbatjov. Had the world been just a bit more patient we'd probably be as close to paradise today as never before. Now, cooperation/balance is broken and we are headed towards Fascism, the consequences of which can be seen in Hitler's and Stalin's power over much of Europe. This time it is American Fascism, and we've already had a large dose of it in Iran, Irak, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, the Ukraine, virtually all of Latin America, etc. If the world doesn't create balance, we are in for some lasting treachery. And this time (with the help of NATO) it will engulf every corner of the earth. It's already begun.

 

[Moonglow]

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, did nothing different than the entire history of humans have done..

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Hitler and the Nazis were the good guys, the Soviet Union was evil. The Soviet Union won, and only then did we recognize them as a threat, and we dedicated the Cold War to fighting them.

But if we supported the Nazis, they very well might have stopped the Soviet Union.

This is as ignorant as it is simplistic, naïve, and wrong.

 

[thanatos144]

All history proves is that Socialism is evil. Both the USSR and Germany where socialist countries.

 

[GLASNOST]

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, did nothing different than the entire history of humans have done..

You might be right.

 

[GLASNOST]

All history proves is that Socialism is evil. Both the USSR and Germany where socialist countries.

Wrong. Absolutely wrong.

 

[thanatos144]

All history proves is that Socialism is evil. Both the USSR and Germany where socialist countries.

Wrong. Absolutely wrong.

I am very much correct comrade.

 

[GLASNOST]

All history proves is that Socialism is evil. Both the USSR and Germany where socialist countries.

Wrong. Absolutely wrong.

I am very much correct comrade.

I am not going to bore you with the definition of Socialism. I will tell you that Stalin was the leader of a nation called the Soviet Socialist Republic. However, he turned it into a Fascist state exactly as Hitler had done. Hitler himself said he hated Socialism. He knew he was a Fascist as did Mussolini. That was their purpose. Stalin however, never admitted he was a Fascist and continued thinking of himself as a Socialist .... he wasn't. Hitler and Mussolini created Fascism by design. There is no discussion on that point. They were not Socialists. Stalin, on the other hand, corrupted Socialism by setting himself up as Fascist without calling it that. In the final analysis neither Hitler nor Stalin were Socialist. They were both Fascists.