YOU are more dangerous than terrorism

[The Infidel]

So are we just supposed to put up with the leftwing loonies who are trying to destroy this nation and fundementally change it from the way it has been known for over 230 years?

What does this mean? Then explain why it doesn't refer to conservatives??

No way man.... I plan on fighting the leftwing till the day I die.

As far as I am concerned, we are being ran by a soft tyranny and I dont plan on going into the darkness quietly.

Well why don't you go join the military and earn your stripes instead of being an asshole here? You cons want war on terror, why are you not doing your part in the service of your cause fighting muslims. Go for it!!

Are conservatives in power at the moment?
Plus when they were.... had I have been a USMB member, you'd have heard me railing against them too... They were not perfect by a LONG stretch, and still are'nt.

One more thing... If I were young enough, I wouldve joined after 9/11/01.
I had every intent to do just that, but was told I was too old at the time and would only be used if we were in a really nasty pickle. Kind of like Germany was at the end of WWII.
So, No.... I cant join and fight..... besides, the way I see it we have far more enemies within right now, and I plan to fight them with every tool I have.
I plan on joining the local teaparty ASAP to do just that.... I did all I could to help get their candidates voted in in November and now will be following up with some actual hands on work very soon.

Your remark regarding Muslims was kind of off topic b/c we are being told WE are the problem right? Not the innocent radical muslims.....

 

[shintao]

One more thing... If I were young enough, I wouldve joined after 9/11/01. I had every intent to do just that,

Hmm, I had the same results with desert storm. I argued they should send us nam combat vets who volunteer in the first wave, to spare the young troops from getting PTSD, which would have saved us billions in therapy & society. At the time we had nam vets in the chamber already, still with the military that made the assualt. I could have used that. The pentagon wants to honor me every few years with feel good award letters like I am part of the team, but there is no team for us.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The greatest threat that faces the US isn't terrorism, or Russian nukes, or socialism, or Obama, or the new oligarchs........

The greatest threat facing America is YOU!

Polarization is the most dangerous threat facing our nation today. Political polarization, social, ethnic, you name it.

A house divided can not stand.

Obviously polarizing us one against another is a tool to make us the people weak so leaders that we despise can still manage to get elected. Divide and conquer. But the net effect is that it makes our nation fragmented, promotes conflict, erodes social cohesion and erodes the very fabric that binds us together as a nation of people sharing a common national mission.

The bottom line is that as a nation we are no stronger than the bonds we share to our fellow citizens, PERIOD!

Whatever your party, preferences, self interests, ideology, etc, all of that is secondary, tertiary, ranks last.

If your first priority is anything other than finding common ground and uniting your will with your fellow citizens wills and directing that united will toward a national effort than you are far, far, far more dangerous than terrorism.

We were too strong to ever be defeated by an outside enemy. But as our unity and cohesion fragment we are becoming weak, ineffectual, act contrary to our own self interest and worse of all enable a bought and paid for leadership that betrays us continually regardless of which party holds power today.

In synopsis, the parties are the problem, if we subscribe to and support their "divided and conquered" agenda then we as a nation will fall.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Think about it before you post some asinine retort that means nothing.

~regarding Patrick Henry of "Give me Liberty or give me Death" fame.

United we stand, divided we fall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The only thing that will unify America is the Constitutioin. When Its destroy, don't expect US to follow the ones that destoried it. There is no unity as far as I am concerned when it goes outside of the Constitution.

Dingleberry, it is the Teabaggers and that ilk that have been suggesting changing basic portions of the Constitution.

So you think everything congress has done in the past 10 years has been constitutional?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The only thing that will unify America is the Constitutioin. When Its destroy, don't expect US to follow the ones that destoried it. There is no unity as far as I am concerned when it goes outside of the Constitution.

Dingleberry, it is the Teabaggers and that ilk that have been suggesting changing basic portions of the Constitution.

So you think everything congress has done in the past 10 years has been constitutional?

Your silence is an affirmation that your "ilk have been suggesting changing basic portions of the Constitution," not those whom you oppose. If it is not constitutional, then you don't need to amend the Constitution. You simply repeal the law.

Sigh. Why do we go through this with you all the flipping time, bigrebnc? Why is that your logic and analytical abilities are so deficient? Those are some of the reasons people read and read and study and think and go to college and think and read and study. Sigh.

 

[Cuyo]

So are we just supposed to put up with the leftwing loonies who are trying to destroy this nation and fundementally change it from the way it has been known for over 230 years?

No way man.... I plan on fighting the leftwing till the day I die.

As far as I am concerned, we are being ran by a soft tyranny and I dont plan on going into the darkness quietly.

i think you just proved his point.

You must spread some rep around before giving it to Jillybean again

 

[Cuyo]

A hearty seig heil to those assholes who believe this citizenry is more dangerous than the islamofascists who wish to kill all western culture in the latest Crusade.

Fucking ignorami.

They're absolutely right. The "Islamofascists" do not pose a real threat to our security. The reason the occupation is so complicated is simply that we're trying to spare innocents, and garner a result that will most benefit us and the world economically. Perhaps its a cruel joke by God that he created this resource (oil) that we need so bad, and put most of it in such an unstable and radically religious part of the world.

Our opposition has no real gusto. They're attacking our soldiers with an M16 they stole off a dead Russian in 1982.

If they ever were a real threat to U.S. security, we could turn the sandbox into a sheet of glass real quick.

 

[Cuyo]

In synopsis, the parties are the problem, if we subscribe to and support their "divided and conquered" agenda then we as a nation will fall.]

Yes, indeed.

Once the people realize they can vote themselves money from the US treasury (spread wealth/more welfare) they'll keep voting for the person who can promise them more money

According to author Durham W. Ellis, this is what historian Alexander Tyler said about the fall of the Athenian Republic: “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy ….”
.

I read quite a bit about that quote last night. It's Alexander Tytler, and it seems that attributing that quote to him is likely apocryphal. Seems nobody really knows who said it first, and it may be a frankenstein'd love-child of a few different quotes throughout history.

But that notwithstanding...

Both parties are proclaiming to be the Santa Clause party. The Republicans are working very hard to convince you that you'll have more money if they're in office, because they'll tax less. Democrats want to provide you with more government services and proclaim that doing such things on a national scale will keep overhead lower per capita, hence you'll have more spending money, although taxes will be higher.

The truth is somewhere in between.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Big Fitz's and his ilk are far more dangerous to American civil liberties than the Muslim bad guys. Big Fitz, bigrebnc, etc., are no different that the supporters of slavery who shut off constitutional liberties to protest the evil institution. That is one of the reasons why a Palin can never win unless the entire American electorate goes brain dead, and that will not be allowed to happen.

 

[Cuyo]

The only thing that will unify America is the Constitutioin. When Its destroy, don't expect US to follow the ones that destoried it. There is no unity as far as I am concerned when it goes outside of the Constitution.

Dingleberry, it is the Teabaggers and that ilk that have been suggesting changing basic portions of the Constitution.

So you think everything congress has done in the past 10 years has been constitutional?

Unless and until SCOTUS says otherwise, yes.

Where do I come up with this shit? Well, it's in the document we're discussing.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's make this very clear. A law that is passed is considered on face value as having the power of law. One can oppose it in principle, but once passed, one who breaks the law can be held to criminal account. That is not necessarily good or bad, but it is what it is.

 

[Sheldon]

And what's more troubling is that we live in a cesspool of propaganda that is DESIGNED to exacerbate the divide.

I think that's the core of the issue. The news media have a vested interest in catering to and reinforcing their viewers' opinions. Controversy sells.

The internet can be a tool to change the way news information is absorbed, but in the end it's just a tool. Beating confirmation bias comes from individual desire.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dingleberry, it is the Teabaggers and that ilk that have been suggesting changing basic portions of the Constitution.

So you think everything congress has done in the past 10 years has been constitutional?

Unless and until SCOTUS says otherwise, yes.

Where do I come up with this shit? Well, it's in the document we're discussing.

Name one thing that has been constitutional in the last ten years? Lets start with 2001?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dingleberry, it is the Teabaggers and that ilk that have been suggesting changing basic portions of the Constitution.

So you think everything congress has done in the past 10 years has been constitutional?

Your silence is an affirmation that your "ilk have been suggesting changing basic portions of the Constitution," not those whom you oppose. If it is not constitutional, then you don't need to amend the Constitution. You simply repeal the law.

Sigh. Why do we go through this with you all the flipping time, bigrebnc? Why is that your logic and analytical abilities are so deficient? Those are some of the reasons people read and read and study and think and go to college and think and read and study. Sigh.

My silence?
Why are you so fucking stupid? Why do you think what the government has done is constitutional? Why must I have to teach you the same thing everyday jake?

 

[Sheldon]

So you think everything congress has done in the past 10 years has been constitutional?

Unless and until SCOTUS says otherwise, yes.

Where do I come up with this shit? Well, it's in the document we're discussing.

Name one thing that has been constitutional in the last ten years? Lets start with 2001?

Allowing firearms to be carried in National parks? I think that was in 2009.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Unless and until SCOTUS says otherwise, yes.

Where do I come up with this shit? Well, it's in the document we're discussing.

Name one thing that has been constitutional in the last ten years? Lets start with 2001?

Allowing firearms to be carried in National parks? I think that was in 2009.

2009 isn't 2001

 

[rdean]

Record filibusters the last four years.

Apology to BP.

Threatening to leave the millions without unemployment benefits just before Christmas unless millionaires and billionaires get unneeded and unwanted tax cuts.

Threaten to deny first responders health care.

Yea, Democrats have been terrible.

 

[Cuyo]

So you think everything congress has done in the past 10 years has been constitutional?

Unless and until SCOTUS says otherwise, yes.

Where do I come up with this shit? Well, it's in the document we're discussing.

Name one thing that has been constitutional in the last ten years? Lets start with 2001?

This was harder to find than I anticipated! Glad I have the link now though.

H.R.38 -- Homestead National Monument of America Additions Act (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)

That appears to be the first bill signed into law in 2001.

 

[gautama]

The greatest threat that faces the US isn't terrorism, or Russian nukes, or socialism, or Obama, or the new oligarchs........

The greatest threat facing America is YOU!

Polarization is the most dangerous threat facing our nation today. Political polarization, social, ethnic, you name it.

A house divided can not stand.

Obviously polarizing us one against another is a tool to make us the people weak so leaders that we despise can still manage to get elected. Divide and conquer. But the net effect is that it makes our nation fragmented, promotes conflict, erodes social cohesion and erodes the very fabric that binds us together as a nation of people sharing a common national mission.

The bottom line is that as a nation we are no stronger than the bonds we share to our fellow citizens, PERIOD!

Whatever your party, preferences, self interests, ideology, etc, all of that is secondary, tertiary, ranks last.

If your first priority is anything other than finding common ground and uniting your will with your fellow citizens wills and directing that united will toward a national effort than you are far, far, far more dangerous than terrorism.

We were too strong to ever be defeated by an outside enemy. But as our unity and cohesion fragment we are becoming weak, ineffectual, act contrary to our own self interest and worse of all enable a bought and paid for leadership that betrays us continually regardless of which party holds power today.

In synopsis, the parties are the problem, if we subscribe to and support their "divided and conquered" agenda then we as a nation will fall.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Think about it before you post some asinine retort that means nothing.

“Let us trust God, and our better judgment to set us right hereafter. United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs.” At the end of his oration, Henry fell into the arms of bystanders and was carried almost lifeless into a nearby tavern. Two months afterward, he had died.

~regarding Patrick Henry of "Give me Liberty or give me Death" fame.

United we stand, divided we fall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Isn't it interesting that we have the PREDICTABLE SONG TO SWEEP EVERYTHING UNDER THE RUG BY THE MUSLIMARSELICKING OBSAMASRRHOIDAL LIBTURDS IN THER INTERESTS OF "COUNTRY UNITY" when Rep Peter KING has organized a Congressional Committee to expose The ENEMY WITHIN !!!

We are on the verge of uncovering the greatest threat to America, after the shitty economy, i.e., the exposure of the ENEMY WITHIN.....i.e. The Islamofascism in America by the Muslim Leadership in America that either does NOTHING, ZIP, NADA in combating OBVIOUS ISLAMIC JIHAD in America such as the ISLAMIC WHACKJOB MAJOR that MURDERS 13 American soldiers in Fort Hood....i.e., being SILENT......or ACTIVELY supporting the MUSLIM SLIME and their Agenda by being the PREDICTABLE SOURCE for their defense IN EVERY CASE from the convicted bomber leader the Blind Sheik, Guantanamo, and, to date.

CAIR, the Unindicted Conspirator, connected to Hamas and other Terrorist Organizations......but considered by the Obamarrhoidal Govt as the "MODERATE" voice of our "Peaceful" Muslim Community. Having it's top members being closely connected to the Terroriism being SPECIFICALLY employed at the highest levels in the Home Security run by the Braindead Janet Incompetano. With the Muslim Brotherhood, another well known TERRORIST connected organization teaching our TSA, and MILITARY.

Interesting note on CAIR. On O'reilly's show their spokesman indicated how "helpful" CAIR is in giving assistance, i.e., outing A COUPLE of suspected Al Queda agents, one of whom was an exposed FBI agent, and some other one.....and, you know how this works in the world of espionage when the enemy "exposes" one of its own when that POS is going to be imminently exposed anyway.

in the last TWO YEARS, there were 127 acts of Terrorism in America. ALL the acts of Terrorism were committed by MUSLIMS. This was reported byreported by Monica Crowley on O'Reilly yesterday. Guess who is defending these Muslim Arseholes ?

The TRANSPARENT AGENDA of MuslimArselicking by the Obamarrhoidal LibTURDS is pathetic and disgusting !!!

If you are serious about finding about the DANGER OF ISLAM, then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !!!!

Educate yourself BY READING ABOUT ISLAM, or getting VIDEOS on ISLAM !!!

Get the documentary by Arab Scholars on ISLAM.

Get ISLAM: What the West Needs to Know.

If that doesn't open your eyes......nothing will.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The greatest threat that faces the US isn't terrorism, or Russian nukes, or socialism, or Obama, or the new oligarchs........

The greatest threat facing America is YOU!

Polarization is the most dangerous threat facing our nation today. Political polarization, social, ethnic, you name it.

A house divided can not stand.

Obviously polarizing us one against another is a tool to make us the people weak so leaders that we despise can still manage to get elected. Divide and conquer. But the net effect is that it makes our nation fragmented, promotes conflict, erodes social cohesion and erodes the very fabric that binds us together as a nation of people sharing a common national mission.

The bottom line is that as a nation we are no stronger than the bonds we share to our fellow citizens, PERIOD!

Whatever your party, preferences, self interests, ideology, etc, all of that is secondary, tertiary, ranks last.

If your first priority is anything other than finding common ground and uniting your will with your fellow citizens wills and directing that united will toward a national effort than you are far, far, far more dangerous than terrorism.

We were too strong to ever be defeated by an outside enemy. But as our unity and cohesion fragment we are becoming weak, ineffectual, act contrary to our own self interest and worse of all enable a bought and paid for leadership that betrays us continually regardless of which party holds power today.

In synopsis, the parties are the problem, if we subscribe to and support their "divided and conquered" agenda then we as a nation will fall.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Think about it before you post some asinine retort that means nothing.

“Let us trust God, and our better judgment to set us right hereafter. United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs.” At the end of his oration, Henry fell into the arms of bystanders and was carried almost lifeless into a nearby tavern. Two months afterward, he had died.

~regarding Patrick Henry of "Give me Liberty or give me Death" fame.

United we stand, divided we fall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since you are the champion of asinine I reject you in all your asinine glory.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So are we just supposed to put up with the leftwing loonies who are trying to destroy this nation and fundementally change it from the way it has been known for over 230 years?

No way man.... I plan on fighting the leftwing till the day I die.

As far as I am concerned, we are being ran by a soft tyranny and I dont plan on going into the darkness quietly.

i think you just proved his point.

Loosecannon actually proved the point when he tried to blame partisanship for everything that is happening.