YOU are more dangerous than terrorism

[Revere]

The surest sign of a lack of democracy is a lack of dissent.

Dissent doesn't equal nearly violent polarization and deep hatred for your own countrymen.

To read your posts I could swear you would prefer it if half the nation just disappeared from the face of the earth.

You are no American, Revere. You are the cancer killing this once magnificent nation.

Are you with US or against US?

Who's violent?

 

[Revere]

The surest sign of a lack of democracy is a lack of dissent.

Dissent doesn't equal nearly violent polarization and deep hatred for your own countrymen.

To read your posts I could swear you would prefer it if half the nation just disappeared from the face of the earth.

You are no American, Revere. You are the cancer killing this once magnificent nation.

Are you with US or against US?

You're not an American if you don't believe in the primacy of the Constitution, which limits government.

You're the cancer.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Limiting the powers of government to impinge on religious freedom, among other things.

Are you free if you can't pray at the 50 yard line before or after your high school football game?

As long as you don't disrupt the educational process and as long as you don't infringe on your neighbor.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The surest sign of a lack of democracy is a lack of dissent.

Dissent doesn't equal nearly violent polarization and deep hatred for your own countrymen.

To read your posts I could swear you would prefer it if half the nation just disappeared from the face of the earth.

You are no American, Revere. You are the cancer killing this once magnificent nation.

Are you with US or against US?

Who's violent?

The screaming and yelling at the Town Hall meetings last year? The Tea Party was warned before hand that would not be tolerated, three of them challenged that at the meeting, and three of were handcuffed and led off to the judge and fined and released.

That kind of nonsense, which we did not have this year.

 

[JakeStarkey]

All Americans believe in the primacy of the Constitution: it's the interp of the document that leads to the fighting.

 

[Gadawg73]

Limiting the powers of government to impinge on religious freedom, among other things.

Are you free if you can't pray at the 50 yard line before or after your high school football game?

I played 14 years and prayed each and every game on the field.
You are full of shit. There are no laws stopping anyone from praying in school or on the field. WTF are you talking about? Each and every player can pray all they want at any time.
You obvioulsy never crossed the lines dude.

 

[Gadawg73]

Limiting the powers of government to impinge on religious freedom, among other things.

Are you free if you can't pray at the 50 yard line before or after your high school football game?

I played 14 years and prayed each and every game on the field.
You are full of shit. There are no laws stopping anyone from praying in school or on the field. WTF are you talking about? Each and every player can pray all they want at any time.
You obvioulsy never crossed the lines dude.

My daughter's boyfriend prayed last night warming up before the basketball game just like he did all year before the football game and during the football game.
You can't pray at school is a big myth. Total BS.
The government can not sponsor organized prayer with one religion over another. Been that way for 50 years. Works better that way as I played with Jewish and Muslim players.
Wake up Moe, there is the real world before your eyes.

 

[Revere]

Limiting the powers of government to impinge on religious freedom, among other things.

Are you free if you can't pray at the 50 yard line before or after your high school football game?

I played 14 years and prayed each and every game on the field.
You are full of shit. There are no laws stopping anyone from praying in school or on the field. WTF are you talking about? Each and every player can pray all they want at any time.
You obvioulsy never crossed the lines dude.

You need to catch up on the news, Jack.

Barry Goldwater did not believe in letting everything else he believed in go to hell just so homosexuals could serve in the military.

You don't know who your friends or your adversaries are, fool.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Revere, you are now the fool. Leave the homosexuals to God, worry about yourself, and go read the Constitution again. Oh, pray before you do that, please.

 

[loosecannon]

Record filibusters the last four years.

Apology to BP.

Threatening to leave the millions without unemployment benefits just before Christmas unless millionaires and billionaires get unneeded and unwanted tax cuts.

Threaten to deny first responders health care.

Yea, Democrats have been terrible.

You are as a much a part of the problem as any knuckle dragging reptard. For a start you are looking at all the unimportant stuff. While you spin your wheels worrying about senate rules that the dems won't change even when they have a majority (newfangled fillibuster) BOTH party's presidents are steadily eroding the bill of rights at full speed. BOTH parties declare war without the real consent of Congress and BOTH parties drag those wars on forever, while they rescue the banks and don't think about mainstreet past the point of extending insurance that employed people actually paid for.

 

[loosecannon]

The greatest threat that faces the US isn't terrorism, or Russian nukes, or socialism, or Obama, or the new oligarchs........

The greatest threat facing America is YOU!

Polarization is the most dangerous threat facing our nation today. Political polarization, social, ethnic, you name it.

A house divided can not stand.

Obviously polarizing us one against another is a tool to make us the people weak so leaders that we despise can still manage to get elected. Divide and conquer. But the net effect is that it makes our nation fragmented, promotes conflict, erodes social cohesion and erodes the very fabric that binds us together as a nation of people sharing a common national mission.

The bottom line is that as a nation we are no stronger than the bonds we share to our fellow citizens, PERIOD!

Whatever your party, preferences, self interests, ideology, etc, all of that is secondary, tertiary, ranks last.

If your first priority is anything other than finding common ground and uniting your will with your fellow citizens wills and directing that united will toward a national effort than you are far, far, far more dangerous than terrorism.

We were too strong to ever be defeated by an outside enemy. But as our unity and cohesion fragment we are becoming weak, ineffectual, act contrary to our own self interest and worse of all enable a bought and paid for leadership that betrays us continually regardless of which party holds power today.

In synopsis, the parties are the problem, if we subscribe to and support their "divided and conquered" agenda then we as a nation will fall.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Think about it before you post some asinine retort that means nothing.

“Let us trust God, and our better judgment to set us right hereafter. United we stand, divided we fall. Let us not split into factions which must destroy that union upon which our existence hangs.” At the end of his oration, Henry fell into the arms of bystanders and was carried almost lifeless into a nearby tavern. Two months afterward, he had died.

~regarding Patrick Henry of "Give me Liberty or give me Death" fame.

United we stand, divided we fall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Isn't it interesting that we have the PREDICTABLE SONG TO SWEEP EVERYTHING UNDER THE RUG BY THE MUSLIMARSELICKING OBSAMASRRHOIDAL LIBTURDS IN THER INTERESTS OF "COUNTRY UNITY" when Rep Peter KING has organized a Congressional Committee to expose The ENEMY WITHIN !!!

We are on the verge of uncovering the greatest threat to America, after the shitty economy, i.e., the exposure of the ENEMY WITHIN.....i.e. The Islamofascism in America by the Muslim Leadership in America that either does NOTHING, ZIP, NADA in combating OBVIOUS ISLAMIC JIHAD in America such as the ISLAMIC WHACKJOB MAJOR that MURDERS 13 American soldiers in Fort Hood....i.e., being SILENT......or ACTIVELY supporting the MUSLIM SLIME and their Agenda by being the PREDICTABLE SOURCE for their defense IN EVERY CASE from the convicted bomber leader the Blind Sheik, Guantanamo, and, to date.

CAIR, the Unindicted Conspirator, connected to Hamas and other Terrorist Organizations......but considered by the Obamarrhoidal Govt as the "MODERATE" voice of our "Peaceful" Muslim Community. Having it's top members being closely connected to the Terroriism being SPECIFICALLY employed at the highest levels in the Home Security run by the Braindead Janet Incompetano. With the Muslim Brotherhood, another well known TERRORIST connected organization teaching our TSA, and MILITARY.

Interesting note on CAIR. On O'reilly's show their spokesman indicated how "helpful" CAIR is in giving assistance, i.e., outing A COUPLE of suspected Al Queda agents, one of whom was an exposed FBI agent, and some other one.....and, you know how this works in the world of espionage when the enemy "exposes" one of its own when that POS is going to be imminently exposed anyway.

in the last TWO YEARS, there were 127 acts of Terrorism in America. ALL the acts of Terrorism were committed by MUSLIMS. This was reported byreported by Monica Crowley on O'Reilly yesterday. Guess who is defending these Muslim Arseholes ?

The TRANSPARENT AGENDA of MuslimArselicking by the Obamarrhoidal LibTURDS is pathetic and disgusting !!!

If you are serious about finding about the DANGER OF ISLAM, then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !!!!

Educate yourself BY READING ABOUT ISLAM, or getting VIDEOS on ISLAM !!!

Get the documentary by Arab Scholars on ISLAM.

Get ISLAM: What the West Needs to Know.

If that doesn't open your eyes......nothing will.

Sorry, but illegal aliens are a far greater threat to our nation than islamofascists, and we are an even greater threat to ourselves than the illegals.

 

[loosecannon]

He's right. Polarization has spread to the churches, playgrounds, charities, business place and everywhere else in America.
Talking politics in church was worse than farting in church when I was young. No one did it.
Now folks are proud to stand up and church and tell others that God supports so and so.
It is a very bad influence on youth. Of course very few care about youth anymore, especially the AARP crowd. They could give a damn.

Freedom is dissent, and vice versa.

but dissent isn't polarization. Not since the civil war has America been so divided internally. How did that work out?

 

[Big Fitz]

A hearty seig heil to those assholes who believe this citizenry is more dangerous than the islamofascists who wish to kill all western culture in the latest Crusade.

Fucking ignorami.

They're absolutely right. The "Islamofascists" do not pose a real threat to our security. The reason the occupation is so complicated is simply that we're trying to spare innocents, and garner a result that will most benefit us and the world economically. Perhaps its a cruel joke by God that he created this resource (oil) that we need so bad, and put most of it in such an unstable and radically religious part of the world.

Our opposition has no real gusto. They're attacking our soldiers with an M16 they stole off a dead Russian in 1982.

If they ever were a real threat to U.S. security, we could turn the sandbox into a sheet of glass real quick.

Wow... geopolitical ignorance at its best. You really don't get it do you? This is not a petty little conflict in the valleys of Afghanistan and deserts of Iraq. This is a religious war that has not been fought for 500 years, re-lit by the Arab Brotherhood in the desire to see a global calphate that has long since waned by an inferior religion.

This war is not one of just bombs and bullets. It is a cultural war, and economic war and a media war.

 

[Gadawg73]

Limiting the powers of government to impinge on religious freedom, among other things.

Are you free if you can't pray at the 50 yard line before or after your high school football game?

I played 14 years and prayed each and every game on the field.
You are full of shit. There are no laws stopping anyone from praying in school or on the field. WTF are you talking about? Each and every player can pray all they want at any time.
You obvioulsy never crossed the lines dude.

You need to catch up on the news, Jack.

Barry Goldwater did not believe in letting everything else he believed in go to hell just so homosexuals could serve in the military.

You don't know who your friends or your adversaries are, fool.

Where does homosexuals serving in the military enter into this Moe? What was said in this thread that brought that up?
Youdo not know shit about Goldwater. He hated the right wing religous crowd. Despised Falwell and Robertson.
I do know that you wear another jersey by your actions. No one as undisciplined as you could have ever played on any of the teams I was on. Your milk is weak.

 

[Gadawg73]

Revere, you are now the fool. Leave the homosexuals to God, worry about yourself, and go read the Constitution again. Oh, pray before you do that, please.

Ah, give him a break. He is a wimp.

 

[loosecannon]

The only thing that will unify America is the Constitutioin. When Its destroy, don't expect US to follow the ones that destoried it. There is no unity as far as I am concerned when it goes outside of the Constitution.

I don't buy it. Americans were perhaps most united before the constitution was drafted. A nation is more than it's founding documents no matter how special.

Bullshit. Loyalists and Patriots were both in the minority, and everyone else was somewhere in the middle.

Without the founding documents, the nation ceases to exist.

The nation was formed by violent revolution not founding documents.

Documents with no revolution would mean nothing. Revolution without a constitution is what founded our nation.

And regardless of the folks who didn't support the revolution enough folks did and were sufficiently united and motivated that they won.

On the other hand there has never been popular agreement about the constitution: it took almost a decade to ratify it, it was ratified with major issues unresolved, a civil war erupted as a result and the "solution" to that quagmire was to burn the south. Ever since then the nation has retained red state/blue state, slave state/free state polarity.

Which just happens to be the basis of our lines of demarcation today.

GO FIGURE!

I don't think I will be taking your opinions seriously.

 

[loosecannon]

The surest sign of a lack of democracy is a lack of dissent.

Dissent doesn't equal nearly violent polarization and deep hatred for your own countrymen.

To read your posts I could swear you would prefer it if half the nation just disappeared from the face of the earth.

You are no American, Revere. You are the cancer killing this once magnificent nation.

Are you with US or against US?

You're not an American if you don't believe in the primacy of the Constitution, which limits government.

You're the cancer.

I believe in the legal primacy of the constitution, half ape/half ape. I just don't believe that the document itself is nearly as significant as you would love to pretend. Of course you are a bible thumping idiot. Books that you serially misinterpret are the basis of your ideology.

BTW the USSC is constitutionally challenged. Maybe you should make like the ACLU and begin advocating for a strict constitutionalist defense even when it violates your ideological agenda.

 

[loosecannon]

Limiting the powers of government to impinge on religious freedom, among other things.

Are you free if you can't pray at the 50 yard line before or after your high school football game?

I played 14 years and prayed each and every game on the field.
You are full of shit. There are no laws stopping anyone from praying in school or on the field. WTF are you talking about? Each and every player can pray all they want at any time.
You obvioulsy never crossed the lines dude.

You need to catch up on the news, Jack.

Barry Goldwater did not believe in letting everything else he believed in go to hell just so homosexuals could serve in the military.

You don't know who your friends or your adversaries are, fool.

sick puppy alert!

 

[JakeStarkey]

A hearty seig heil to those assholes who believe this citizenry is more dangerous than the islamofascists who wish to kill all western culture in the latest Crusade.

Fucking ignorami.

They're absolutely right. The "Islamofascists" do not pose a real threat to our security. The reason the occupation is so complicated is simply that we're trying to spare innocents, and garner a result that will most benefit us and the world economically. Perhaps its a cruel joke by God that he created this resource (oil) that we need so bad, and put most of it in such an unstable and radically religious part of the world.

Our opposition has no real gusto. They're attacking our soldiers with an M16 they stole off a dead Russian in 1982.

If they ever were a real threat to U.S. security, we could turn the sandbox into a sheet of glass real quick.

Wow... geopolitical ignorance at its best. You really don't get it do you? This is not a petty little conflict in the valleys of Afghanistan and deserts of Iraq. This is a religious war that has not been fought for 500 years, re-lit by the Arab Brotherhood in the desire to see a global calphate that has long since waned by an inferior religion.

This war is not one of just bombs and bullets. It is a cultural war, and economic war and a media war.

Only in the mind of far right wing nut reactionaries is this a continuation of a 500 year old war. These fools are playing to the jihadist fools who are trying to pump the same fuel in their own countries.

Ask yourself why the Christian religious jihadists here are calling for war.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Record filibusters the last four years.

Apology to BP.

Threatening to leave the millions without unemployment benefits just before Christmas unless millionaires and billionaires get unneeded and unwanted tax cuts.

Threaten to deny first responders health care.

Yea, Democrats have been terrible.

You are as a much a part of the problem as any knuckle dragging reptard. For a start you are looking at all the unimportant stuff. While you spin your wheels worrying about senate rules that the dems won't change even when they have a majority (newfangled fillibuster) BOTH party's presidents are steadily eroding the bill of rights at full speed. BOTH parties declare war without the real consent of Congress and BOTH parties drag those wars on forever, while they rescue the banks and don't think about mainstreet past the point of extending insurance that employed people actually paid for.

Hey........Stool Cannon........quick question for you asshole.......

What part of "filibuster" do you deem unimportant? I kinda think that getting rid of gridlock is an important part of government.

You consider the GOP apology to BP unimportant? Tell that to the fishermen and people living in the Gulf of Mexico that the apology was "unimportant". I'd be willing to bet that your ass would be handed to you in pieces without any glue.

You think unemployment benefits are unimportant? Ever spent a Christmas hungry with no gifts? I have. It sucks. Extending the unemployment benefits will DO MORE to stimulate the economy than tax cuts for the rich. Why? Because poor people spend money on things they actually NEED, like food, clothing, shelter and gas for the car. Rich greedy people? They only invest and save cash. The dollar that gets a tax cut? It only generates around 1.03 in the economy. The dollar that goes to the unemployed? It generates around 1.67 in the economy. Simple math dude.

You think that denying healthcare to people who ARE FUCKING HEROES TO THIS COUNTRY! How easy do you think it is to clean up a big mess like that? Especially when some of the stuff that saw the light of day WAS NEVER supposed to. The resulting clean up has caused many of those 9/11 responders to end up with cancer as well as other things.

For the rest of you.........

Am I more dangerous than a terrorist? Yep. Been military trained, as well as grew up in the mountains of Montana hunting for food. Oh yeah.........I'm more dangerous than a terrorist because I don't adhere to one strict dogma. I'm open minded, which means that I can figure out a threat from someone easy. Besides, I'm also quite intelligent, because I don't listen to FAUX Nooze.

Who is responsible for this great chasm this country is currently experiencing? Simple......Cheney and Bush Jr. "If you're not with us, then you're with the terrorists". And, what's more, the rest of the GOP saw the power that they could wield if they scared enough people badly enough, and thus you have the divide.

Obama has been trying to bridge this gap, but unfortunately, the GOP won't let him, becaus they still like the politics of fear.

Wanna know how to get rid of fear? It's simple............what you understand the least, you are scared of the most. Pick out the things that are scaring you, examine WHY they're scaring you, as well as look for the solutions (i.e. knowledge about the subject) that will serve you the best.

After you come in contact with the thing that causes fear a couple of times, eventually you are no longer scared. Me? I'm not scared for much, because I've faced down fear a couple of times in my life. Once or twice, I damn near died. But, whenever I see something that is an old fear of mine, it doesn't even make me flinch.

But then again...........having a fucked up childhood like mine kinda makes you unafraid, as well as strong. How many 5-7 year olds do you know that have taken on 40 year old full grown men (my stepfather) and won on occasion?

And, that's just the tip of the iceberg.

It also explains my dislike of authority. Why? Because almost every authority figure in my life (with the exception of my Grandparents) has proven themselves hypocrites and most of the time, their "knowledge" was exceedingly flawed.

Also explains why I left Christianity to study Tao and now Judaic theology. Most of the Christian preachers I knew were liars and hypocrites.