Anyone who thinks we haven't lost Liberties since 911, is truly living life in ignorant Goose Stepper Bliss. Definitely Red Pill time for them.
You keep sayin' that but everytime you are asked to describe how your freedoms have been dented you slither away. Is it a prob for you that you can no longer carry a bomb or a boxcutter aboard a commercial airliner?
As I understand it, the Patriot Act allowed for easier surveillance by the government on US citizens. The rules for beginning various types of surveillance were loosened.
I can't remember the exact circumstances of incidents at the moment, but I also seem to recall more than one occurrence of innocent citizens being detained for long periods without representation based on the Patriot Act.
And more, I am pretty sure there have been complaints that law enforcement has used provisions of the Patriot Act in pursuing other criminals, not just terrorists.
So I would agree that some liberties have been lost, or at least degraded, since 9/11. Have I felt that personally? The closest I personally have come that I know of is having to get a new ID for my little local bank, because the one I had been using was expired. No loss of liberty, just a minor inconvenience. However, the fact that I have not personally experienced any of the negative effects does not mean I am immune to them or that my freedoms haven't been at all lessened. If it were to become illegal to travel from the east coast to the west coast I would have lost some freedom, but since I never have and never expect to do such traveling, I wouldn't experience it personally.
Paulitician may be a crazy CT nut, but he's not always completely wrong.
I neither said nor inferred that the rules of engagement haven't been changed. I specifically asked the OP who has repeatedly whined about his loss of freedom to describe how his freedoms have been lost. Methinks this is a case of Pauli making a mountain out of a molehill.
BTW, the Left Coast ain't so bad and the trip is still perfectly legal.