strollingbones
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do they still have the no knock law? i remember the dude in dc...they broke in on him and his family...he pulled a gun and shot the cop....no knock is just crazy o btw it was the wrong house too
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Bottom line, even when serving a no knock warrant LEO is required to identify themselves as they are coming through the door, or window. so there is no " I didn't know it was a cop"
Most of the time, yes.
There are cases where this does happen though, and the resident is not aware that the police are the ones breaking into the house. Happened in Atlanta here about 2-3 years ago.
Cops executed a no-knock on a residence, based on information that the "task force" fabricated, and wound up busting in, literally, on an elderly lady. The lady lived in a "bad" part of town, and had a small caliber gun by her, so she popped off a couple of shots that went waaay wide (she was thinking that hoodlums were busting in to her house, and it is unclear whether she was trying to fire shots into the ceiling to scare whoever she thought was entering). Cops killed her deader than shit. No drugs in house.
FBI investigated, task force was disbanded and a bunch of the cops went to trial. Couple of them I think are behind bars for fabricating the evidence, and then trying to doctor the scene to make it look like she was a threat to them when they fired. An acquaintance of mine was on the task force, but luckily not on this raid. He was suspended (with pay) for 2 freaking years. Just went back to work about 6 months ago.
Bottom line, even when serving a no knock warrant LEO is required to identify themselves as they are coming through the door, or window. so there is no " I didn't know it was a cop"
Most of the time, yes.
There are cases where this does happen though, and the resident is not aware that the police are the ones breaking into the house. Happened in Atlanta here about 2-3 years ago.
Cops executed a no-knock on a residence, based on information that the "task force" fabricated, and wound up busting in, literally, on an elderly lady. The lady lived in a "bad" part of town, and had a small caliber gun by her, so she popped off a couple of shots that went waaay wide (she was thinking that hoodlums were busting in to her house, and it is unclear whether she was trying to fire shots into the ceiling to scare whoever she thought was entering). Cops killed her deader than shit. No drugs in house.
FBI investigated, task force was disbanded and a bunch of the cops went to trial. Couple of them I think are behind bars for fabricating the evidence, and then trying to doctor the scene to make it look like she was a threat to them when they fired. An acquaintance of mine was on the task force, but luckily not on this raid. He was suspended (with pay) for 2 freaking years. Just went back to work about 6 months ago.
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You probably also know of all the Robberies in ATL, that the perps (not real cops) kick in a door and yell Cops and proceed to rob, murder and rape the homeowners.
No knock warrants should be outlawed!
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Bottom line, even when serving a no knock warrant LEO is required to identify themselves as they are coming through the door, or window. so there is no " I didn't know it was a cop"
Most of the time, yes.
There are cases where this does happen though, and the resident is not aware that the police are the ones breaking into the house. Happened in Atlanta here about 2-3 years ago.
Cops executed a no-knock on a residence, based on information that the "task force" fabricated, and wound up busting in, literally, on an elderly lady. The lady lived in a "bad" part of town, and had a small caliber gun by her, so she popped off a couple of shots that went waaay wide (she was thinking that hoodlums were busting in to her house, and it is unclear whether she was trying to fire shots into the ceiling to scare whoever she thought was entering). Cops killed her deader than shit. No drugs in house.
FBI investigated, task force was disbanded and a bunch of the cops went to trial. Couple of them I think are behind bars for fabricating the evidence, and then trying to doctor the scene to make it look like she was a threat to them when they fired. An acquaintance of mine was on the task force, but luckily not on this raid. He was suspended (with pay) for 2 freaking years. Just went back to work about 6 months ago.
Keepers at NYC's Bronx Zoo have installed plexiglas barriers beyond the bars of some cages in the primate exhibit because the monkeys there are known to shit in their hands and throw it when something upsets them. The monkeys do this when they are frustrated because all that a monkey in a cage can do when he doesn't like something is throw shit.
W T F ????
You are a class A moron
Bottom line, even when serving a no knock warrant LEO is required to identify themselves as they are coming through the door, or window. so there is no " I didn't know it was a cop"
Most of the time, yes.
There are cases where this does happen though, and the resident is not aware that the police are the ones breaking into the house. Happened in Atlanta here about 2-3 years ago.
Cops executed a no-knock on a residence, based on information that the "task force" fabricated, and wound up busting in, literally, on an elderly lady. The lady lived in a "bad" part of town, and had a small caliber gun by her, so she popped off a couple of shots that went waaay wide (she was thinking that hoodlums were busting in to her house, and it is unclear whether she was trying to fire shots into the ceiling to scare whoever she thought was entering). Cops killed her deader than shit. No drugs in house.
FBI investigated, task force was disbanded and a bunch of the cops went to trial. Couple of them I think are behind bars for fabricating the evidence, and then trying to doctor the scene to make it look like she was a threat to them when they fired. An acquaintance of mine was on the task force, but luckily not on this raid. He was suspended (with pay) for 2 freaking years. Just went back to work about 6 months ago.
I would guess that one of the things they got busted for was failing to identify themselves as they came in the door/window.
Keepers at NYC's Bronx Zoo have installed plexiglas barriers beyond the bars of some cages in the primate exhibit because the monkeys there are known to shit in their hands and throw it when something upsets them. The monkeys do this when they are frustrated because all that a monkey in a cage can do when he doesn't like something is throw shit.
W T F ????
You are a class A moron
Ignorance and stupidity are metaphorical cages. Personal insults and empty ad hominem comments are analogous to handfuls of shit to be tossed out in place of intelligent, reasoned, logical arguments.
Most of the time, yes.
There are cases where this does happen though, and the resident is not aware that the police are the ones breaking into the house. Happened in Atlanta here about 2-3 years ago.
Cops executed a no-knock on a residence, based on information that the "task force" fabricated, and wound up busting in, literally, on an elderly lady. The lady lived in a "bad" part of town, and had a small caliber gun by her, so she popped off a couple of shots that went waaay wide (she was thinking that hoodlums were busting in to her house, and it is unclear whether she was trying to fire shots into the ceiling to scare whoever she thought was entering). Cops killed her deader than shit. No drugs in house.
FBI investigated, task force was disbanded and a bunch of the cops went to trial. Couple of them I think are behind bars for fabricating the evidence, and then trying to doctor the scene to make it look like she was a threat to them when they fired. An acquaintance of mine was on the task force, but luckily not on this raid. He was suspended (with pay) for 2 freaking years. Just went back to work about 6 months ago.
I would guess that one of the things they got busted for was failing to identify themselves as they came in the door/window.
From what I was able to find, no, that was not one of the things they were busted on.
Most likely is that they did identify themselves, but an old lady, confused as to what was going on, didn't understand, and all she knew was that people were invading her home.
I would guess that one of the things they got busted for was failing to identify themselves as they came in the door/window.
From what I was able to find, no, that was not one of the things they were busted on.
Most likely is that they did identify themselves, but an old lady, confused as to what was going on, didn't understand, and all she knew was that people were invading her home.
In my ten years doing that type work, we did occasionally end up at the wrong house. It happens and it isn't always someone in the field's fault. A typo in the DA's office, numbers transposed somewhere along the line. It happens. There isn't anyway to eliminate the issue. And in my experience , LEO show great restraint, for the most part.
From what I was able to find, no, that was not one of the things they were busted on.
Most likely is that they did identify themselves, but an old lady, confused as to what was going on, didn't understand, and all she knew was that people were invading her home.
In my ten years doing that type work, we did occasionally end up at the wrong house. It happens and it isn't always someone in the field's fault. A typo in the DA's office, numbers transposed somewhere along the line. It happens. There isn't anyway to eliminate the issue. And in my experience , LEO show great restraint, for the most part.
From the investigation, it seems that these LEO's were seriously fucked up. More interested in padding their stats to justify their existence. Which is where the warrant under false pretenses comes from, and the planting of "evidence" at the scene.
You're right, in that they do show restraint IMO most times. But when they go off the reservation, they go WAAAAAY off and seriously fuck things up and hurt innocent people.
Calling for Con Hog's head to be blown off is an intelligent, reasoned, logical argument?Keepers at NYC's Bronx Zoo have installed plexiglas barriers beyond the bars of some cages in the primate exhibit because the monkeys there are known to shit in their hands and throw it when something upsets them. The monkeys do this when they are frustrated because all that a monkey in a cage can do when he doesn't like something is throw shit.
W T F ????
You are a class A moron
Ignorance and stupidity are metaphorical cages. Personal insults and empty ad hominem comments are analogous to handfuls of shit to be tossed out in place of intelligent, reasoned, logical arguments.
In my ten years doing that type work, we did occasionally end up at the wrong house. It happens and it isn't always someone in the field's fault. A typo in the DA's office, numbers transposed somewhere along the line. It happens. There isn't anyway to eliminate the issue. And in my experience , LEO show great restraint, for the most part.
From the investigation, it seems that these LEO's were seriously fucked up. More interested in padding their stats to justify their existence. Which is where the warrant under false pretenses comes from, and the planting of "evidence" at the scene.
You're right, in that they do show restraint IMO most times. But when they go off the reservation, they go WAAAAAY off and seriously fuck things up and hurt innocent people.
No doubt , corrupt LEO can cause a lot of heart ache, that in noway means that Mike has a right to shoot them in the head though of course.
Well then, if that were actually the case, maybe you should become a cop ya' fuckin' idiot!Cops shot a lot of beer drinkers during prohibition. Back then like Noe our best and brightest aren't cops.
Speaking as someone who did this for a living. I can tell you that people are nuts. You go in the house yelling DEA DEA and they pop up wwith knives, guns, sic dogs on you, whatever.
One time we were serving a warrant on a farmhouse and the people had dug a giant pit filled it with snaked and covered it with a tarp and foilage hoping that someone would fall in it, luckily no one did.
I got shot at once by a neighbor who claims he thought I was a criminal trying to break into his neighbors house. Hint I was wearing cammo with a blue judicial drug task force windbreaker on.
A friend of mine was stabbed by a 12 y/o who's daddy taught him to hate cops.
Bottom line, even when serving a no knock warrant LEO is required to identify themselves as they are coming through the door, or window. so there is no " I didn't know it was a cop" and there are plenty of instances of people killing LEO. So even though some of yall would be happy with cops being killed, too bad they do have the right to protect themselves.
Not quite.In my ten years doing that type work, we did occasionally end up at the wrong house. It happens and it isn't always someone in the field's fault. A typo in the DA's office, numbers transposed somewhere along the line. It happens. There isn't anyway to eliminate the issue. And in my experience , LEO show great restraint, for the most part. But I guess Mike would kill anyone opposed to drugs if he could.
Deaths from people smoking pot, going insane, and killing people?Deaths from Police officers raiding people who kill Marijuana: 1 (At least)
Deaths from directly using Marijuana: 0