Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
Here are measurements of back-radiation. Water vapor was subtracted out. What remains are the usual GH gases. The spectrometer most likely was cooled to reduce internal thermal interference; otherwise the fact that it was cooled is immaterial.So that would be a no...you can not show a single measurement of back radiation from the atmosphere to the surface of the earth made with an instrument that is not cooled to a temperature lower than that of the atmosphere.
Even though you can measure radiation emitting from the earth with an uncooled instrument, if you flip it over and point it towards the sky, you can't measure any discrete band of IR from CO2 coming back down....even though you believe it is coming down at the rate of more than 300wm^2, and is warming the atmosphere of the earth it can't be measured without a cooled instrument...and you aren't bright enough to wonder why.
Typical....you claim the back radiation is happening...and it is warming the earth...but can't be measured without cooling the instrument to a temperature lower than that of the atmosphere....Just how stupid are you?
Measurements of the Radiative Surface Forcing of Climate, W.F.J. Evans
Sorry guy, that is most certainly not a measurement of back radiation. Can you read at all? The top of your chart states that it is a measurement of surface forcing...meaning that it is a measurement taken looking down on the surface...and yes, there are the discrete bands of radiation. You don't get that when you point the instrument at the sky, however, unless the instrument is cooled to a temperature lower than that of the sky. Ever stop to wonder why?
You are so easily fooled by instrumentation...that and not having the first clue as to what the instruments are actually measuring. No wonder you are such a dupe.
You don't get that when you point the instrument at the sky, however, unless the instrument is cooled to a temperature lower than that of the sky. Ever stop to wonder why?
Because smart photons "know" that the surface is warmer and only travel toward space.
They also "know" when it is "safe" to move down toward a cooler instrument.
You never explained how they know the precise moment when "too hot to move toward"
becomes "cool enough to move toward". Seems like a violation of causality for information
to travel faster than the speed of light and without the exchange of photons.
Maybe Dr. Raeder can help you explain your theory?