Would conscription be beneficial to the nation as a whole?

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    When answering please consider economics, social aspects, politics, etc. I believe it would be beneficial, but would really like to hear other's views on this. Your opinion would be most helpful if you are not affiliated with the military, but any thoughts are most appreciated! Thanks!
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    Why the tiny text? That's damned annoying!

    On topic: the only thing I consider is the professionalism of our military - the last thing any professional soldier wants is to have his back defended by someone who doesn't give a shit. So, no. Nothing is more important than the military, a war zone is no place for idiot whiners.
     
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    Done fairly?

    Univeral conscription could have a positive effect on this society.

    But it will never be done fairly.

    Why?

    Because this society is classist, ergo when we had the draft it fell mostly upon the lower classes to serve in uniform.
     
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    Yeah sure.
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    I oppose a draft but your post seems to put down draftees many of whom served extremely honorably in past wars.
     
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    A draft done fairly would be a social glue that made all acts of aggression a more democratic choice and consequence. First thing we did at 18 was enroll and everyone felt a part of the country both supportive and critical as well. Many kids today have no sense of responsibility except to the Almighty Buck, the contemporary gawd of America.

    A few thoughts: many join to see the world and learn something, many rural places have little opportunity and military service is a way out and up. It is a job for some, for others it is family, it is what you do. Once in, it is a growing experience and you can often tell men who have served as they seem a bit more mature and self reliant. If you are a passive soul then some other services debt may work. But this is America, and our culture is individual freedom, so in the end after being dormant for so long the draft would make the usual American kid more than a bit leery. I know many who married just to stay out even back in a more gungho America. The volunteer army has created a separation of concern, you're death, hmm, tough you joined. That is a harsh way to put it, but certainly it separates conflict and hands it to another.

    I wonder if a draft were called for the Iraq Invasion how the response would have gone? DI to young recruit, 'I wanna see assholes and elbows.'


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    Anyone, regardless of their being military or not or even connected to the military, who thinks war has anything but huge consequences is a heartless moron and a sellout to partisan points.
     
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    Yea, it does. I'm harsh like that. :lol:

    But I maintain that conscripts do not make particularly good soldiers - we have a professional military and most military personnel would, I think, prefer it that way. I know that my brothers would not want anyone out with them that was not a professional Marine.
     
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    World War II was won and the free world saved by draftees.
     
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    Draftees would go through the same training as everybody else, they had a draft in ww2 and that seemed to work out well for this nation.

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