Would Americans elect a protectionist president?

"Free Trade" Was Never Really About Trade

"Free trade" is not trade. Basically, trade is when each country makes things of value for export and gets things of comparable value in imports. In modern globalization, other countries manipulate their currencies, use tax strategies that distort exports and imports, and apply effective well-designed industrial policies to build manufacturing capacity. They export more products to us, and import fewer products from us.
Our trade deficits since NAFTA are over $8 trillion. With trade deficits this large, we are not trading. We are letting other countries produce for us. We borrow, de-industrialize, and ultimately fail to capitalize on future production opportunities. That's not trade. That's getting picked clean.
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dear , a trade deficit is impossible since every dollar we send to China has to be spent in America. Do you understand? We buy with dollars which would have no value to them unless they could spend them. Do you understand?

Free trade is when free people voluntarily decide to trade because they feel they are both better off. Do you understand?
http://www.citizen.org/documents/manufacturing-job-loss.pdf

Nearly 5 million U.S. manufacturing jobs – one out of every four – have been lost since implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the World Trade Organization (WTO).1 Since NAFTA took effect, more than 55,000 American manufacturing facilities have closed.2 Growing trade deficits post-NAFTA, WTO and other Free Trade Agreements (FTAs) drive job loss: Under the NAFTA-WTO model, U.S. manufacturing imports have soared while growth of U.S. manufacturing exports has slowed. The growth of the U.S. trade deficit with China since that country entered the WTO in 2001 has had a devastating effect on U.S. workers and the domestic economy: between 2001 and 2011, an estimated 3.2 million U.S. jobs were lost or displaced.3 Since NAFTA’s enactment, annual growth in U.S. manufacturing exports to Canada and Mexico has fallen 41 percent below the annual rate seen in the years before NAFTA.4 The inflation-adjusted U.S. goods trade deficit with Canada of $30 billion and the $2.6 billion surplus with Mexico in 1993 (the year before NAFTA took effect) turned into a combined NAFTA trade deficit of $182.1 billion by 2014 – a real increase in the “NAFTA deficit” of 565 percent.5 The Economic Policy Institute (EPI) estimated that the ballooning trade deficit with Mexico alone destroyed about 700,000 net U.S. jobs between NAFTA’s implementation and 2010.6 And since NAFTA, more than 850,000 specific U.S. workers have been certified for Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) – a narrow program that is difficult to qualify for – as having lost their jobs due to imports from Canada and Mexico or the relocation of factories to those countries.7 Overall, the aggregate U.S. trade deficit with FTA partners has ballooned. The inflation-adjusted aggregate trade deficit with FTA partners has increased by about $144 billion – a 427 percent jump – since the FTAs were implemented. By contrast, the aggregate trade deficit with all non-FTA countries has decreased by about $95 billion – an 11 percent drop – since 2006, the median entry date of existing FTAs


Fuck you dear.
 
. In modern globalization, other countries manipulate their currencies,

dear, if someone manipulates their currency so its cheaper for you to buy from them, you say, thank you, because they are making you richer. This is why even a pinko like Barry supports free trade and why the world is moving toward it rather than away from it.

Simply enough for you to understand?
 
Nearly 5 million U.S. manufacturing jobs – one out of every four – have been lost since implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the World Trade Organization (WTO).

is this because of NAFTA , or because of liberal unions taxes and deficits?

Isn't thinking fun??
 
. In modern globalization, other countries manipulate their currencies,

dear, if someone manipulates their currency so its cheaper for you to buy from them, you say, thank you, because they are making you richer. This is why even a pinko like Barry supports free trade and why the world is moving toward it rather than away from it.

Simply enough for you to understand?
Dear. Is it simple enough for you to understand the people who worked at those manufacturing plants don't give a shit what you think. They only know that the companies hauled ass and their jobs went with it.

Now for the NEW GREAT JOBS your views create for the displaced workers.

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Nearly 5 million U.S. manufacturing jobs – one out of every four – have been lost since implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the World Trade Organization (WTO).

is this because of NAFTA , or because of liberal unions taxes and deficits?

Isn't thinking fun??
Yawn..................In your view only jobs were lost in States with Unions in them. Nope, not a single job was lost in Right to Work States.

Do you actually believe the shit you are shoveling?

And do you want FRIES WITH THAT?
 
They only know that the companies hauled ass and their jobs went with it.

so then if they are smart they oppose the highest liberal corporate taxes in the world, and oppose liberal unions and liberal deficits which drove their jobs off shore.

Now do you understand?
 
Mr. Ed the talking mule says that sending our jobs to places like China GOOD for America.

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Mr. Ed the talking mule says that sending our jobs to places like China GOOD for America.

no dear I said most of the jobs would stay here if we eliminated liberal taxes unions and deficits.

Isn't thinking fun?
You changed the subject dear, and I called BS on it. Jobs are being lost in more than just liberal dominated states.

On simplified taxes, and lowering them for creation of jobs...........Yes that would be what needs to be done to help stop some of the outsourcing, but it would still not stop the tide of those leaving.
 
And the Founding Fathers of this country were also liberal on trade?

well, honestly, they were not economists. One of the reasons they wrote the Constitution was to prevent protectionism between the states, something the Articles did not do. But when it came to international trade they seemed to favor protectionism as did much of the world until protectionism helped cause the Great Depression. From that point on free trade has grown to the point where almost all of the world supports it.
 
On simplified taxes, and lowering them for creation of jobs...........Yes that would be what needs to be done to help stop some of the outsourcing, but it would still not stop the tide of those leaving.

1) i didn't say taxes, I said taxes unions deficits Do you understand?

2) Ireland lowered its corporate tax to 11% and most of the world's major corporations moved there in whole or in part. If we eliminated our tax we'd have 20 million new jobs the first year and 5 % growth for the next 20 years!
 
On simplified taxes, and lowering them for creation of jobs...........Yes that would be what needs to be done to help stop some of the outsourcing, but it would still not stop the tide of those leaving.

1) i didn't say taxes, I said taxes unions deficits Do you understand?

2) Ireland lowered its corporate tax to 11% and most of the world's major corporations moved there in whole or in part. If we eliminated our tax we'd have 20 million new jobs the first year and 5 % growth for the next 20 years!
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On simplified taxes, and lowering them for creation of jobs...........Yes that would be what needs to be done to help stop some of the outsourcing, but it would still not stop the tide of those leaving.

1) i didn't say taxes, I said taxes unions and deficits drive our jobs off shore. Do you understand?

2) Ireland lowered its corporate tax to 11% and most of the world's major corporations moved there in whole or in part. If we eliminated our tax we'd have 20 million new jobs the first year and 5 % growth for the next 20 years!
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1) i didn't say taxes, I said taxes unions deficits Do you understand?

2) Ireland lowered its corporate tax to 11% and most of the world's major corporations moved there in whole or in part. If we eliminated our tax we'd have 20 million new jobs the first year and 5 % growth for the next 20 years!
 
And the Founding Fathers of this country were also liberal on trade?

well, honestly, they were not economists. One of the reasons they wrote the Constitution was to prevent protectionism between the states, something the Articles did not do. But when it came to international trade they seemed to favor protectionism as did much of the world until protectionism helped cause the Great Depression. From that point on free trade has grown to the point where almost all of the world supports it.

Fair enough. Also, it's a projection of our soft power in the world. But do voters care about these things, or could either Trump or Sanders win their respective party's nominations?
 
could either Trump or Sanders win their respective party's nominations?

trump is way ahead in the polls and sanders an open libcommie is doing well so, yes. The important issue is, do you understand why the world has turned to free trade!!
 

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