Women in combat roles.....the democrats don't care about dead soldiers...

[Anathema]

If a US Military with women in all combat roles were to become engaged in a full scale war with a nation that did not have female combatants my loyalties wouls be greatly tested.

 

[whitehall]

You almost gotta wonder if democrat politicians are firing on all cylinders. Do they think they are doing female Soldiers a favor when they send them into combat especially against a jihad enemy who uses women as sub-human sex objects?

 

[2aguy]

A Female soldier assaults a ditch line and kills bad guys to save her fellow troops .

She is an " MP "

Women In Military Service For America Memorial

Just one example.

Shadow 355

Yeah....not the same thing as actual infantry combat operations on a sustained level...

The cooks jump out of airplanes in the 82nd too....

 

[shadow355]

Yeah....not the same thing as actual infantry combat operations on a sustained level...

Wrong.

It's called forward area operations.

It is ...... Sustained operations in a forward combat area.

I know. I'm a combat veteran .

And an MP squad had more firepower than an infantry platoon - that's a fact !

Shadow 355

 

[RandallFlagg]

yes...there will be more dead soldiers if you allow women into the same combat units as men....

The Obama Pentagon’s Disastrous Decision on Women in Combat, by The Editors, National Review

Carter made this decision in spite of extensive evidence — put forward by the Marines — that mixed-gender units were less capable than their all-male counterparts.

They were less accurate with their weapons, the women were twice as likely to be injured, and mixed-gender units were less capable of evacuating the wounded from the battlefield. Indeed, the strongest women were only as strong as the weakest men.

A public and political class largely insulated from the realities of ground combat has become ignorant of its excruciating and unforgiving physical demands. Prolonged infantry operations — including operations common in the War on Terror — place immense strains on the mind and body. Unit cohesion is critical, and physical breakdowns can be costly both to combat power and to unit morale. Moreover, given how beholden the administration is to the Left, there is no reason to believe that it will hold firm on physical standards if few women prove capable of joining and — crucially — thriving in the infantry environment. Experience with less demanding jobs in law enforcement and firefighting shows that the legal and political pressure to lower standards will be immense. Under the best of circumstances, combat effectiveness will be degraded.

I spent nearly a year in combat in Viet Nam. Why in God's name would we want our women to experience that horror!?!?! Well, sir, I guess because we don't have enough young white and black men who have the guts to join, would you not agree? So, in order to keep the "all volunteer military" feasible, we have to allow homosexuals, illegals and women to do the job that (apparently) no other "men" wish to do.....

 

[2aguy]

Yeah....not the same thing as actual infantry combat operations on a sustained level...

Wrong.

It's called forward area operations.

It is ...... Sustained operations in a forward combat area.

I know. I'm a combat veteran .

And an MP squad had more firepower than an infantry platoon - that's a fact !

Shadow 355

Cause they use vehicles ....... not the same as being in the infantry....

 

[2aguy]

yes...there will be more dead soldiers if you allow women into the same combat units as men....

The Obama Pentagon’s Disastrous Decision on Women in Combat, by The Editors, National Review

Carter made this decision in spite of extensive evidence — put forward by the Marines — that mixed-gender units were less capable than their all-male counterparts.

They were less accurate with their weapons, the women were twice as likely to be injured, and mixed-gender units were less capable of evacuating the wounded from the battlefield. Indeed, the strongest women were only as strong as the weakest men.

A public and political class largely insulated from the realities of ground combat has become ignorant of its excruciating and unforgiving physical demands. Prolonged infantry operations — including operations common in the War on Terror — place immense strains on the mind and body. Unit cohesion is critical, and physical breakdowns can be costly both to combat power and to unit morale. Moreover, given how beholden the administration is to the Left, there is no reason to believe that it will hold firm on physical standards if few women prove capable of joining and — crucially — thriving in the infantry environment. Experience with less demanding jobs in law enforcement and firefighting shows that the legal and political pressure to lower standards will be immense. Under the best of circumstances, combat effectiveness will be degraded.

I spent nearly a year in combat in Viet Nam. Why in God's name would we want our women to experience that horror!?!?! Well, sir, I guess because we don't have enough young white and black men who have the guts to join, would you not agree? So, in order to keep the "all volunteer military" feasible, we have to allow homosexuals, illegals and women to do the job that (apparently) no other "men" wish to do.....

Actually, to be fair...I think we have enough brave men who will do the job.....I just think the left hates the military and wants them to be defeated....and if they have to sacrifice women to do it that just goes along with their willingness to sacrifice women to the cause.....they let bill rape women to keep abortion.......why would they hesitate to get women killed in combat....

 

[jasonnfree]

Granted. women are a nuisance when they try to do a man's job, but my big worry would be muslims in the military. Even native born muslims have caused death and destruction in this country. Their first allegiance is to their allah and islam, which is at war with the values and traditions of USA.

 

[mudwhistle]

yes...there will be more dead soldiers if you allow women into the same combat units as men....

The Obama Pentagon’s Disastrous Decision on Women in Combat, by The Editors, National Review

Carter made this decision in spite of extensive evidence — put forward by the Marines — that mixed-gender units were less capable than their all-male counterparts.

They were less accurate with their weapons, the women were twice as likely to be injured, and mixed-gender units were less capable of evacuating the wounded from the battlefield. Indeed, the strongest women were only as strong as the weakest men.

A public and political class largely insulated from the realities of ground combat has become ignorant of its excruciating and unforgiving physical demands. Prolonged infantry operations — including operations common in the War on Terror — place immense strains on the mind and body. Unit cohesion is critical, and physical breakdowns can be costly both to combat power and to unit morale. Moreover, given how beholden the administration is to the Left, there is no reason to believe that it will hold firm on physical standards if few women prove capable of joining and — crucially — thriving in the infantry environment. Experience with less demanding jobs in law enforcement and firefighting shows that the legal and political pressure to lower standards will be immense. Under the best of circumstances, combat effectiveness will be degraded.

Most of the women will make sure that they're knocked up before any deployments. Right now there's hundreds of preggo soldiers running around Ft. Campbell.
By the way it looks more of them are knocked up than not. If they become pregnant they become non-deployable. So, if you want to weaken combat units, just put a bunch of girls in them.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd says dem politicians gonna get a lotta womens killed...

Top General Wants 1 in 10 Marines to Be Women
Feb 03, 2016 | The Marine Corps has long had the fewest female members of any of the military services, but Commandant Gen. Robert Neller said Tuesday he's working to change the demographics.

Speaking before the Senate Armed Services Committee to discuss the integration of women into combat roles, Neller said he was exploring ways to bring more women into the service. In the Marine Corps, fewer than eight percent of active-duty troops are women. "I directed our recruiting to look at increasing the number of women in the Marine Corps to 10 percent," Neller said. If successful, that initiative would bring the Marine Corps closer to the Navy, with 18 percent female troops in its active force, and the Army, 14 percent female.

It's a more modest goal, however, than the one set by Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, who said last year he wanted one in four new recruits in the Navy and Marine Corps to be female. Pressed for specifics, he said the recruiting figure was "a floor" and he would like to see an even higher number of female recruits. It could be years, though, before the Marine Corps makes any progress toward the 1-in-10 goal.

A Marine Corps recruiting official, who requested anonymity in order to speak freely, said some numbers had been discussed for female accessions, but no decisions had yet been made. Other factors beyond recruiting will also affect the demographic makeup of the Corps, the official said, including long-term retention of female Marines and projected attrition over time. "As you're growing the force, are you incentivizing female Marines to stick around," the official said. "It's not just, 'go recruit more females.'"

Currently, the official said, Marine recruiters do not have any goals or quotas regarding female accessions. While everything remains "pre-decisional," the official said senior Marine Corps brass were discussing their approach to the new goal now. "It's not something that is a quick process," the official said. "These things take several fiscal years to execute." The Marine Corps is now waiting on final approval of its plan to open previously closed ground combat jobs to female troops. In that plan, first obtained by Christian Science Monitor and reviewed by Military.com, officials say they estimate 200 female Marines will successfully enter ground combat jobs every year, making up fewer than 2 percent of all Marines in those jobs.

Top General Wants 1 in 10 Marines to Be Women | Military.com

See also:

US Military Leaders Support Having Women Register for the Draft
Feb 02, 2016 | U.S. military leaders on Tuesday told lawmakers that women should be required to register for the draft the same way men do.

"I think one of the questions we have to address now is registering for the Selective Service," Sen. Claire McCaskill, a Democrat from Missouri, said during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing to discuss the military's integration of women into ground combat units. McCaskill said the 1981 Supreme Court decision to exempt women from registering for the draft was directly related to the restrictions in place that prohibited women from serving in direct combat units such as the infantry. "The purpose of the registration was to prepare for a draft of combat troops," she said. "Since women are excluded from combat, Congress concluded that they would not be needed in the event of a draft and therefore decided not to register them."

Defense Secretary Ashton Carter changed all that in December when he reversed centuries of U.S. military tradition with the historic announcement that all military occupational specialties would now be open to women. McCaskill asked Army, Marine and Navy leaders testifying at the hearing if Congress should reconsider the decision. "Senator, it is my personal view that based on this lifting of restriction for assigning MOSs, that every American that is physically qualified should register for the draft," said Marine Gen. Robert B. Neller, commandant of the Marine Corps, referring to the acronym for military occupational specialties.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, agreed with McCaskill that lifting the restrictions on women will help recruiting efforts to encourage more women to consider serving in the military. Undersecretary of the Army Patrick Murphy said there should be a national debate over issue. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley also supported the draft for women. "I think that all eligible and qualified men and women should register for the draft," he said. McCaskill agreed. "I do too," she said. "I think it is the right thing going forward."

US Military Leaders Support Having Women Register for the Draft | Military.com

Related:

Army to Let Women Apply for Infantry and Armor Jobs by This Spring
Feb 03, 2016 | The U.S. Army's chief of staff told Congress on Tuesday that female soldiers could begin their training to serve in direct combat arms jobs such as infantry and armor by this spring, but it could take up to three years to form gender-integrated units.

Gen. Mark Milley joined Marine Corps and Navy leaders at a Feb. 2 hearing to testify before a skeptical Senate Armed Services Committee about future plans to merge women into ground combat units across the services. "Readiness is the Army's number-one priority, and I believe that full integration of women in all career fields will either maintain, sustain or improve the overall readiness of the United States Army ... if and only if we maintain and enforced rigorous combat readiness standards, we retain a merit-based results-oriented organization, and we apply no quotas," Milley said.

Currently, Defense Secretary Ash Carter is reviewing plans from each service that detail how female troops will be integrated into units that were closed to women until his decision in December that all military occupational specialties would now be open to women. The first step for the Army, Milley said, will be to begin gender-neutral training for all officers, noncommissioned officers and junior enlisted. "This spring, female cadets and officer candidates who meet the gender-neutral standard will be given the opportunity to request either infantry or armor branches," Milley said.

Currently, infantry and armor training for enlisted soldiers is not gender integrated at the Maneuver Center of Excellence at Fort Benning, Georgia. "We will probably enter women into infantry and armor basic training at the Maneuver Center down at Fort Benning sometime the early fall, probably September or October of this year," Milley said. The Army intends to follow a "deliberate, methodical approach that begins with assessment, selection, training and assigning of female infantry and armor leaders -- both officers and NCOs to units," Milley said. "Then we will assign female junior enlisted to those units. "I estimate that effective female integration into infantry, armor and Special Forces will require no less than one to three years of deliberate effort to develop the individual skills and grow our leaders."

Navy and Marine Corps leaders were less detailed about their plan to move forward with the integration of women. "The Corps has already notified 231 women who have successfully completed ground combat arms MOS [training] ... that they can switch to these previously closed jobs immediately if they chose to," Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus said. While the policy is already in place, lawmakers pressed Army and Marine Corps leaders to explain their decision to allow women to serve in direct combat roles such as infantry and special operations units. "This hearing is not about whether women can serve in combat," said SASC Chairman Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, listing many of the achievements of women serving in combat over the years. "Many women have made the ultimate sacrifice in service to our nation."

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[ScienceRocks]

I oppose women in combat roles. War is not a joke and should be taken very seriously.

 

[Agit8r]

Anyone see the debate last night?

Republicans Want To Draft Women Into The Military? GOP Debate Focuses On Female Troops

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

yes...there will be more dead soldiers if you allow women into the same combat units as men....

The Obama Pentagon’s Disastrous Decision on Women in Combat, by The Editors, National Review

Carter made this decision in spite of extensive evidence — put forward by the Marines — that mixed-gender units were less capable than their all-male counterparts.

They were less accurate with their weapons, the women were twice as likely to be injured, and mixed-gender units were less capable of evacuating the wounded from the battlefield. Indeed, the strongest women were only as strong as the weakest men.

A public and political class largely insulated from the realities of ground combat has become ignorant of its excruciating and unforgiving physical demands. Prolonged infantry operations — including operations common in the War on Terror — place immense strains on the mind and body. Unit cohesion is critical, and physical breakdowns can be costly both to combat power and to unit morale. Moreover, given how beholden the administration is to the Left, there is no reason to believe that it will hold firm on physical standards if few women prove capable of joining and — crucially — thriving in the infantry environment. Experience with less demanding jobs in law enforcement and firefighting shows that the legal and political pressure to lower standards will be immense. Under the best of circumstances, combat effectiveness will be degraded.

Tell the victims family's in San Bernardino how women can't be combat soldiers.

That would hardly be considered combat.
In combat they shoot back.

 

[candycorn]

Nice that every Republican asked last evening said they were for women in combat roles....I guess the GOP doesn't care either....