Woman denied haircut, files human rights complaint

[PaintMyHouse]

Are you sure? Obama said there is no future for those who disrespect the prophet Mohammad or the religion of Islam. You might want to check with him first. Forcing a Muslim to service homosexuals is the very definition of oppression and grounds for jihad. I think this discussion is over now. Have a nice day and be kind to all people. Not just those you like. - Jeri

The rule is simple. Business is business, keep your faith out of making a buck.

No, that is not "the rule."

It's close enough for government work.

 

[Unkotare]

The rule is simple. Business is business, keep your faith out of making a buck.

No, that is not "the rule."

It's close enough for government work.

Pretty much says it all about you...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Are you sure? Obama said there is no future for those who disrespect the prophet Mohammad or the religion of Islam. You might want to check with him first. Forcing a Muslim to service homosexuals is the very definition of oppression and grounds for jihad. I think this discussion is over now. Have a nice day and be kind to all people. Not just those you like. - Jeri

The rule is simple. Business is business, keep your faith out of making a buck.

You can have that rule.. The nice thing about living in America is that your personal rules don't have to be my rules.

It's called Freedom. Look it up sometime.

That is my rule, it's also very close to the rule our society has set. That's why it works out so well for me, I'm in compliance.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No, that is not "the rule."

It's close enough for government work.

Pretty much says it all about you...

Life is messy. Never heard that before?

 

[Unkotare]

It's close enough for government work.

Pretty much says it all about you...

Life is messy. Never heard that before?

Your brain is messy. Never considered that before?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Pretty much says it all about you...

Life is messy. Never heard that before?

Your brain is messy. Never considered that before?

It can be, but that's why I work through my arguments, unlike most here.

 

[Againsheila]

While this happened in Canada, considering how the left lied about what was going on in Arizona, it is going to happen here sooner or later..

Woman denied haircut by barbers | CTV News

Barbers in Toronto who refused to cut a woman’s hair have become the target of a human rights complaint, in a case that pits religious freedom against gender equality.

When Faith McGregor went into the Terminal Barber Shop requesting a short haircut, she was told the shop only grooms men.

The reason, co-owner Omar Mahrouk said, was that as a Muslim he could not cut the hair of a woman who was not related to him.


But for McGregor, the rejection of her patronage amounted to sexism.

“Fundamentally, my hair is the same as their male clients, so why would they have a problem with that,” she told CTV News.

“I felt like a second class citizen, like it was hard to hear that they refused and there was no discussion."

So the 35-year-old filed a complaint with the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario.

Under the law, business owners aren’t supposed to discriminate based on gender, but Mahrouk felt he had religious rights.


A lawyer for the owners also says in their defence they've only ever trained to cut men's hair and that they'd bought a barbershop on the expectation they would only have to serve male clientele.

The Terminal bills itself as “the oldest standing barber shop in Toronto,” offering haircuts, massages and hot lather shaves “in a classic barber shop setting,” since 1925.

Its client list includes former prime minister Paul Martin and actor Woody Harrelson, who can be seen posing with the owners in a photograph on the shop’s website.

Some are standing behind the barbershop’s owners, pointing out that there are women-only spas and gyms.

“If I wanted to have a specialized business geared just towards men that wanted hot razor shaves and cuts, why not,” said Sean Gibson of the Ontario Barber Association.


But McGregor disagrees and is hoping to force the shop to service women too.

Her case goes to mediation in the new year.

When I was a kid Barber Shops were for men and Hair Salons were for women. When did that change?

 

[OriginalShroom]

The rule is simple. Business is business, keep your faith out of making a buck.

You can have that rule.. The nice thing about living in America is that your personal rules don't have to be my rules.

It's called Freedom. Look it up sometime.

That is my rule, it's also very close to the rule our society has set. That's why it works out so well for me, I'm in compliance.

And once again, In America I am supposed to have the right to not be "In compliance" as long as I don't hurt anyone else.

Freedom. It's a wonderful thing.

 

[Unkotare]

Life is messy. Never heard that before?

Your brain is messy. Never considered that before?

It can be, but that's why I work through my arguments, unlike most here.

You don't appear to be working through anything.

 

[OriginalShroom]

When I was a kid Barber Shops were for men and Hair Salons were for women. When did that change?[/QUOTE]

When women decided that they didn't want to wait for other women to get their hair done, so they started using barbers because men's hair usually takes less time to cut.

When I was in the service, a woman brought her daughter into the barbershop to have it washed, cut, and put into a French Braid. Several of us found the BX Manager and raised hell. She was told to take her daughter to the saloon next door, that the barbershop was for men's haircuts only. Braiding and washing was done in the saloon.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You can have that rule.. The nice thing about living in America is that your personal rules don't have to be my rules.

It's called Freedom. Look it up sometime.

That is my rule, it's also very close to the rule our society has set. That's why it works out so well for me, I'm in compliance.

And once again, In America I am supposed to have the right to not be "In compliance" as long as I don't hurt anyone else.

Freedom. It's a wonderful thing.

That's incorrect, and not what the laws say.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Your brain is messy. Never considered that before?

It can be, but that's why I work through my arguments, unlike most here.

You don't appear to be working through anything.

Pay more attention then. And on this issue, nope. Got it all done.

 

[Unkotare]

It can be, but that's why I work through my arguments, unlike most here.

You don't appear to be working through anything.

Pay more attention then.

There's not much to miss. You are just repeating your subjective feeeeeeelings and being insistent. That's not even good enough for government work.

 

[OriginalShroom]

That is my rule, it's also very close to the rule our society has set. That's why it works out so well for me, I'm in compliance.

And once again, In America I am supposed to have the right to not be "In compliance" as long as I don't hurt anyone else.

Freedom. It's a wonderful thing.

That's incorrect, and not what the laws say.

Just because you like the Socialist laws passed, doesn't mean that I do.

And I do my best not to support or obey laws that I believe to be UnAmerican.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Cutting hair is not serving God. Neither is baking a cake. If either of those can only be done by your faith as serving God, do them at your church. There you can set your one rules, within reason.

Because you are an expert on serving Allah, right?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Barbers are not trained to cut women's hair.

not quite correct.

Hair is hair.... cutting hair is all the same. "Barbers" are not skilled in styling women's hair cuts.

I am quite sure a "barber" could cut a straight line trim off the bottom of hair. I am not trained and even i can do that.

Now.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Are you sure? Obama said there is no future for those who disrespect the prophet Mohammad or the religion of Islam. You might want to check with him first. Forcing a Muslim to service homosexuals is the very definition of oppression and grounds for jihad. I think this discussion is over now. Have a nice day and be kind to all people. Not just those you like. - Jeri

The rule is simple. Business is business, keep your faith out of making a buck.

You can have that rule.. The nice thing about living in America is that your personal rules don't have to be my rules.

It's called Freedom. Look it up sometime.

I explained that to him, but since he is smarter than everyone else, and everyone already hates him because of that, he decided to be a whore, and then lie about his business.

 

[OriginalShroom]

The rule is simple. Business is business, keep your faith out of making a buck.

You can have that rule.. The nice thing about living in America is that your personal rules don't have to be my rules.

It's called Freedom. Look it up sometime.

I explained that to him, but since he is smarter than everyone else, and everyone already hates him because of that, he decided to be a whore, and then lie about his business.

He's just another typical Leftie... It's just that simple.

 

[M.D. Rawlings]

Muslims deny people service in the united states all the time. At airports if you have a bottle of wine or liquor in your suitcase they can deny you service. The law as it stands is any business owner / employee including cab drivers have the right to deny service to anyone they choose. They do not have to give a reason for denying service. ( to anyone )

If you are referring to Taxi Drivers I think you are, they lost that lawsuit.

Appeals Court backs MAC on Muslim taxi drivers | Star Tribune

They even wanted to refuse service to blind people with service dogs.

PaintMyHouse read some blather written by Jones, our self-anointed "expert" on constitutional and case law, and now thinks that the principle of public accommodation trumps the imperatives of the First Amendment. Truth is he’ll latch onto anything that gives him an excuse to impose his will on others.

Observe his comment in the above wherein he images that his “theology” should trump the rights of others.

As for the proposed Arizona bill: all it does is assert what is already established in case law as a means of staving off frivolous lawsuits, i.e., that all persons have the right to refuse service on moral/religious grounds, including homosexuals. The bill contains no reference to sexual orientation at all.

Leftists are such idiots, and most of them are pathological liars.

 

[skye]

While this happened in Canada, considering how the left lied about what was going on in Arizona, it is going to happen here sooner or later..

Woman denied haircut by barbers | CTV News

Barbers in Toronto who refused to cut a woman’s hair have become the target of a human rights complaint, in a case that pits religious freedom against gender equality.

When Faith McGregor went into the Terminal Barber Shop requesting a short haircut, she was told the shop only grooms men.

The reason, co-owner Omar Mahrouk said, was that as a Muslim he could not cut the hair of a woman who was not related to him.





But for McGregor, the rejection of her patronage amounted to sexism.

“Fundamentally, my hair is the same as their male clients, so why would they have a problem with that,” she told CTV News.

“I felt like a second class citizen, like it was hard to hear that they refused and there was no discussion."

So the 35-year-old filed a complaint with the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario.

Under the law, business owners aren’t supposed to discriminate based on gender, but Mahrouk felt he had religious rights.


A lawyer for the owners also says in their defence they've only ever trained to cut men's hair and that they'd bought a barbershop on the expectation they would only have to serve male clientele.

The Terminal bills itself as “the oldest standing barber shop in Toronto,” offering haircuts, massages and hot lather shaves “in a classic barber shop setting,” since 1925.

Its client list includes former prime minister Paul Martin and actor Woody Harrelson, who can be seen posing with the owners in a photograph on the shop’s website.

Some are standing behind the barbershop’s owners, pointing out that there are women-only spas and gyms.

“If I wanted to have a specialized business geared just towards men that wanted hot razor shaves and cuts, why not,” said Sean Gibson of the Ontario Barber Association.


But McGregor disagrees and is hoping to force the shop to service women too.

Her case goes to mediation in the new year.

When I was a kid Barber Shops were for men and Hair Salons were for women. When did that change?

In the 1920s.

...when women started to go to the barber to have their long locks cut into a bob.